[MASSBIRD] Once again, they get the bird wrong
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Stuart Walker
May 30, 2014, 11:28:23 PM5/30/14
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There is a photo from a newly released movie (which only gets one
or two stars), "A Million Ways to Die in the West", that shows the protagonist
being assaulted with a Blue Jay (not by a Blue Jay.) But the
movie takes place in Arizona, where there are no Blue Jays! Would it have
been that hard to find a Steller's Jay, or, for that matter, a Scrub Jay??
grumble grumble mutter grumble
Stuart Walker
Jamaica Plain
Eddie
May 31, 2014, 2:19:11 AM5/31/14
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Glenn d'Entremont
May 31, 2014, 7:54:16 PM5/31/14
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Depending on where in AZ this was to take place it might have been better to use Mexican (Gray-breasted) Jay which to my eye is a fiercer looking bird with a substantial bill.
In the first "Bourne" movie (Bourne Identity?) there is a scene which is to take place in an Eastern European country in a field where there are Blue Jay sounds, and quite a few of them, in the background.
Glenn
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In the first "Bourne" movie (Bourne Identity?) there is a scene which is to take place in an Eastern European country in a field where there are Blue Jay sounds, and quite a few of them, in the background.
Glenn
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Paul Guidetti
May 31, 2014, 8:06:19 PM5/31/14
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Pretty sure the Bourne Identity scene also has Eastern Wood-Pewee calls as well.
On a similar track, this misuse of bird sounds has been a longstanding pet peeve of mine. So much so, that I was wondering if there would be interest amongst the community of birders out there to establish a website/blog/app for reporting these "offenses". The reports might include the film/tv show/commercial including te misused bird sound/appearance and the specific time during the show.
Anyone out there tech savvy enough to get this going?
Paul Guidetti
Tewksbury MA
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Anne Hubbard
May 31, 2014, 10:24:14 PM5/31/14
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An old-time favorite of mine (for hilarity's sake) was the old Folger's commercial with the couple walking through dense forest, binoculars in hand. "There it is!" they exclaim. "The Red-wing Blackbird!" They then go home to enjoy their coffee. Midway through the campaign, they edited the commercial—leaving in "There it is..." then cutting to an shot of GHO in a tree, and changing the voice over to 'The Great-horned Owl!"
Anne Hubbard
Cambridge, MA
Al Curtis
Jun 1, 2014, 8:02:13 AM6/1/14
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One of my favorites was in the TV miniseries of Stephen King's "It"
in the early 90s. The story takes place in a small Maine town. One of
the kids is portrayed as a birdwatcher. In one scene he is seen
peering through his binoculars at a ..... RED-CRESTED CARDINAL
perched on the edge of a bird bath! One of the issues is that, I
believe it is illegal to use live native birds in movies or TV
advertising. Any time you see a actual live bird featured in an ad,
it will usually be a European Starling or a Rock Pigeon. I remember
an ad showing 2 crows in a tree talking about glass cleaner or some
such. Yep, Collared Crows from Asia! Evidently, we're not supposed to notice.
Al Curtis
Harwich, MA
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in the early 90s. The story takes place in a small Maine town. One of
the kids is portrayed as a birdwatcher. In one scene he is seen
peering through his binoculars at a ..... RED-CRESTED CARDINAL
perched on the edge of a bird bath! One of the issues is that, I
believe it is illegal to use live native birds in movies or TV
advertising. Any time you see a actual live bird featured in an ad,
it will usually be a European Starling or a Rock Pigeon. I remember
an ad showing 2 crows in a tree talking about glass cleaner or some
such. Yep, Collared Crows from Asia! Evidently, we're not supposed to notice.
Al Curtis
Harwich, MA
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Tom de Boor
Jun 1, 2014, 5:53:33 PM6/1/14
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Bourne is the source of a legion of errors, I guess. As I recall when Bourne is in Moscow and his Russian nemesis spots, the moment is accented by the full-throated cry of a Pileated Woodpecker--a bird that seems like it must have a SAG card by now. I just heard a Common Loon calling in the Louisiana bayou (True Detective), and of course, I've long lost count of all the Whippoorwills calling in broad daylight, the woodland subspecies of Savannah Sparrow, or MacGillivray's and Mourning Warblers calling all over the world (wish they were as common in real life)
Tom de Boor
Northford, CT
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Paul Guidetti <guidet...@gmail.com> wrote:
B Colbath
Jun 1, 2014, 6:59:45 PM6/1/14
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How about Sean Connery's character in
"Finding Forrester" intently looking out his NYC apartment window
with his bins and triumphantly identifying a Connecticut warbler when in
actuality it's a yellow warbler.
BC
New Hampshire
Tom de Boor
Jun 1, 2014, 7:50:16 PM6/1/14
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To be fair, many people have seen things they thought were Connecticut Warblers that weren't ;) But it's pretty tough to turn a Yellow Warbler into one--I guess that's what they call "suspension of disbelief" in the film game ;)
Tom de Boor
Northford, CT
Marj. Rines
Jun 1, 2014, 8:49:56 PM6/1/14
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I remember that one only too well. The author of the screenplay
for Finding Forrester had called me asking for advice on how to
include birding in the script, so I was excited to see the movie.
I was mortified to see that gaff since I'd told a number of
friends about it....
On 6/1/2014 6:24 PM, B Colbath wrote:
How about Sean Connery's character in "Finding Forrester" intently looking out his NYC apartment window with his bins and triumphantly identifying a Connecticut warbler when in actuality it's a yellow warbler.BCNew Hampshire
-- Marj. Rines Arlington, MA marj<at>mrines.com
Paul Champlin
Jun 1, 2014, 9:05:52 PM6/1/14
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Wasn't going to jump in on this, but...
An example of where this is not necessarily the case: I was watching the PBS show, Your Inner Fish (the "Your Inner Monkey" episode) and they had a segment that appeared to be recorded in the rainforest of South America (the host was with what looked like a troop of Bolivian Squirrel Monkeys [Saimiri species], so it was reasonable to think that). In the near background was a crystal clear White-throated Sparrow, which doesn't even come close to the range of any Saimiri. I sure was put off that such a scientifically rigorous show would screw up the background fauna so badly. I later noticed that, there in the credits... Monkey Island, in Florida, where White-throated Sparrows are plentiful. There never was a claim that they were in the rainforest.
Best
Paul Champlin
Westport, MA
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An example of where this is not necessarily the case: I was watching the PBS show, Your Inner Fish (the "Your Inner Monkey" episode) and they had a segment that appeared to be recorded in the rainforest of South America (the host was with what looked like a troop of Bolivian Squirrel Monkeys [Saimiri species], so it was reasonable to think that). In the near background was a crystal clear White-throated Sparrow, which doesn't even come close to the range of any Saimiri. I sure was put off that such a scientifically rigorous show would screw up the background fauna so badly. I later noticed that, there in the credits... Monkey Island, in Florida, where White-throated Sparrows are plentiful. There never was a claim that they were in the rainforest.
Best
Paul Champlin
Westport, MA
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> Subject: [MASSBIRD] Once again, they get the bird wrong
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Jonathan Center
Jun 2, 2014, 12:57:46 AM6/2/14
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Hmm? I guess spring migration IS over, since this seems to
be only thing to discuss. Very sad.
Jonathan Center
Chemsford
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