Religion

[Dominique Fennell]

Marx believed that religion is the response to alienation in material
life. He explains how human beings exist as a community,and need to
depend on religion for social and economic relations. Marx felt the
only way religion could be removed if material life was emancipated.
He teaches that people must acknowledge communal existence in our
institutions. Marx also belives that religion creates a false idea
idea in a community that everyone is equal in the eyes of God.

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[Allison]

It sounds like Marx was leaning towards the athiest side of religion.
According to Marx, religion was an expression of material realities
and economic injustice. The plagues in religion are ultimately plagues
in society. Religion wasn't a disease, it was the symptom and was used
by captialists and oppressors to make the poor feel better about their
lives and being exploited-thus creating the sense that everyone is
equal in the eyes of God. "Religion is the opiate of the masses", Marx
stated that "religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the
expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering.
Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a
heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium
of the people."

It is really interesting to know that Marx believed religion to be an
illusion of happiness. He stated that "The abolition of religion as
the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real
happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their
condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires
illusions." This is a really deep statement to me.

He seems really close minded on this subject. Almost angry at the
people he was supporting because they were relying on something that
he thought was a "fairytail" in a sense. He thought religion was
foolish! Wanting the blinders to be removed of false happiness. Don't
trust in religion to "really" be happy.

[Katelyn M Mosher]

from what ive read Marx was some what of an Athiest. He wrote, “The religious world is but the reflex of the real world.” Marx’s opinion is that religion is an illusion that provides reasons and excuses to keep society functioning just as it is. Marx has a few reasons why he doesn't like religion such as why worship something that's not really there basically? He basically said you're worshipping an alien which you call "God." He also said for another reason would be “I hate all gods,” with addition that they “do not recognize man’s self-consciousness as the highest divinity.” The third reason he dislikes religion is because it is hypocritical. Marx was all about helping the poor and Jesus was too but the Christian church merged with the Roman state which involved with the enslavement of people for centuries.

-- Katelyn

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[Arya, Tenzin]

Karl Heinrich Marx was a German philosopher, political economist,
historian, political theorist, sociologist, communist, and
revolutionary, whose ideas were credited the foundation of modern
capitalism. Karl Marx was without a doubt the most influential
socialist thinker to emerge in the 19th century. Marx argued that
capitalism would produce internal tensions which would eventually lead
to destruction. He favored socialism and believed that socialism would
replace capitalism, and lead to a stateless, classless society called
pure communism
The political and economic philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
in which the concept of class struggle plays a central role in
understanding society's allegedly inevitable development from bourgeois
oppression under capitalism to a socialist and ultimately classless
society.
Marxism is an economic and social system based upon the political and
economic theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. It is the system of
socialism of which the dominant feature is public ownership of the means
of production, distribution, and exchange.

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[Allison]

There is a lot of repetition going on. We need to start reading each
others posts and either commenting on them or finding out something
new about Marx.

[Katelyn M Mosher]

hmm. all information on the web are coming out to be the same, maybe we have to resort to books =(

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