Pioneer N-50

[Rafael Nowning]

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Hold on! We took a look and we saw that the N-50A model does not support the LibSpotify service anymore, as mentioned by Pioneer. Any other questions, just send and we will do our best to help / TH

So in conclusion it does not seem to relate to the phone or app version of Spotify, or the Pioneer reciever itself. But for some odd reason it is tied your account. So the question remains, why? This seems very random.

I do expect its going to be only a matter of time before his account stops working, as I also noticed this feature has been stripped off any documentation and any website, but for now I have a workaround.

How can that possibly be??? I just got this streamer a few months ago and pay family pack since years now to spotify. So please bring us back that feature or I seriously think throwing all that to the trash. Will do my publicity accordingly of course. Thanks

Ok I really am **bleep** off since that Pioneer thingy cost my quite a bit of money, I really bought it just to get Spotify swiftly integerated into it - so basically I sold my older N-50 to get the newer N-50A and that one now already shall be obsolete? Come on you cannot do that to us!

I need to understand here: who is the bad one? I mean: Pioneer brands his N-50A with the Spotify certified logo so I expect this is so and remains so but in that very case the feature (I also paid good money for) simply is canceled - please take care of yourself, I don't agree on that at all.

I wrote to Pioneer as well to make moving things. I am asking them either to change my machine, provide a firmware upgrade or to simply open the firmware code so that guys like myself can code that stuff back into the machine.

Now that also questions commercial and business relationships between Spotify and its partners: who is liable in such a case? Because as a customer you (both Spotify and Pioneer) simply rendered my device useless - but it's still under guarantee and I will get my money and/or my rights back.

Isn't there certification instance (like for DLNA or UPnP) that says: ok, you get the "Spotify aware" label means you can be assured, as a simple customer as I am, that the product you bought will keep functionning in the coming years whatever happens. Because it's what has been written on the N-50A pacakge and user guide.

BTW: I had similar issues with the VW Dieslegate, have a VW engine and there also I go court to get my rights back since I bought this car new for lot of money and there also a simple SW renders it less perfect and not far from useless - it's time to change.

I have N-50a and spotify is working. Tested on 2 mobiles with android in spotify aplication and on laptop with win 10 in spotify aplication. Is it not possible that it is limited in your country? Im from czech republic.

Mmm when I use the horrible pioneer app on my Android and try to select the spotify source the app tells me spotify cannot be used in a region where this spotify service is not available ... So who's the bad guy here? Do we come back to the DVD region stuff?? I am very confused really .... Let's try around us a bit more to boil this down.

Try any of you to change your country in the spotify account to the czech republic and let me know if it works. Maybe try it change your ip adress to czech republic via free vpn. :)) and try to ask a question when spotify turn it off in the Czech Republic.

Otherwise seeing how spotify connect is engineered the.pioneer normally retrievss the stream using my credentials or a.derivation of those. And it's e.g. My phone app giving those credentials to the pioneer first via a special protocol. We keep in touch.

What I want to point out here and perhaps it was not clear before: Connect works well between all our Android and Win10 devices - we can remot control and move the stream from one machine to another one.

That means the problem guy here remains the Pioneer: his firmware is no longer up to date and so is not allowed further to retrieve the stream in the name of my profile on the Spotify servers. What is strange however is it works in other countries but not in mine (Switzerland) - looks like Spotify phases this out and does not treat all countries the same when features are added or removed.

What year is your machine, S/N and firmware version your run on your N-50A? It's possible those devices don't ship with the exact same firmware depending on which country they're supposed to be sold - at the end this looks like then as a "region lock" despite it is not what has been targeted, just how the marke t is segmented in terms of firmware versions running on an apparently same hardware machine we all have here.

Quick heads up: I wrote now to Pioneer Germany (it where it goes for Swiss guys like me), this time directly to the hotline, let's see what they say - will share back of course my findings and conclusions.

Soil processes are essential in enabling forest regeneration in disturbed landscapes. Little is known about whether litterfall from dominating pioneer species in secondary rain forest is functionally equivalent to that of mixed rain-forest litter in terms of contribution to soil processes. This study used the litterbag technique to quantify the decomposition and nutrient dynamics of leaf litter characteristic of three wet tropical forest communities in the Paluma Range National Park, Queensland, Australia over 511 d. These were: undisturbed primary rain forest (mixed rain-forest species), selectively logged secondary rain forest (pioneer Alphitonia petriei) and tall open eucalypt forest (Eucalyptus grandis). Mass loss, total N, total P, K, Ca and Mg dynamics of the decaying leaves were determined, and different mathematical models were used to explain the mass loss data. Rainfall and temperature data were also collected from each site. The leaves of A. petriei and E. grandis both decomposed significantly slower in situ than the mixed rain-forest species (39%, 38% and 29% ash-free dry mass remaining respectively). Nitrogen and phosphorus were immobilized, with 182% N and 134% P remaining in E. grandis, 127% N and 132% P remaining in A. petriei and 168% N and 121% P remaining in the mixed rain-forest species. The initial lignin:P ratio and initial lignin:N ratio exerted significant controls on decomposition rates. The exceptionally slow decomposition of the pioneer species is likely to limit soil processes at disturbed tropical rain-forest sites in Australia.

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