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S. Jibreel

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Jun 10, 2010, 6:13:46 PM6/10/10
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If anyone is actively trading the markets, dow recovery could get it
back up to ~10,500. However, that's just going to be a setup for the
next leg down. The next leg will be downright scary because it is
usually the most powerful leg of the market movement (3rd of a 3rd for
technical analysts). I hope everyone's ready iA.

Islam Elfayoumi

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Jun 10, 2010, 8:36:53 PM6/10/10
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could see new high before leg down which is wave 5 of the bear trend.

> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:13:46 -0700
> Subject: dow recovery
> From: s.jibree...@gmail.com
> To: market-...@googlegroups.com

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S. Jibreel

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Jun 21, 2010, 5:53:08 PM6/21/10
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As predicted from my email from two weeks ago (read below), the dow
recovered to above 10,500. The market is now set up for another
disasterous decline. The decline could start as early as tomorrow and
as I said before, this leg of the decline is likely to be really
scary. Lots of corporations and governments to go bankrupt in this
one.


On Jun 10, 8:36 pm, Islam Elfayoumi <islam_elfayo...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> could see new high before leg down which is wave 5 of the bear trend.
>
> > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:13:46 -0700
> > Subject: dow recovery
> > From: s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com
> > To: market-...@googlegroups.com
>
> > If anyone is actively trading the markets, dow recovery could get it
> > back up to ~10,500.  However, that's just going to be a setup for the
> > next leg down.  The next leg will be downright scary because it is
> > usually the most powerful leg of the market movement (3rd of a 3rd for
> > technical analysts).  I hope everyone's ready iA.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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itali...@gmail.com

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Jun 21, 2010, 6:22:14 PM6/21/10
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Let the dua ..... Begin..



-- Sent from my Palm Pre


Ibrahim Fahmy

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Jun 22, 2010, 3:17:26 PM6/22/10
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another well timed call by the wizard

Ilyas

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Jun 22, 2010, 3:20:35 PM6/22/10
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Jibs should play pro poker.
That's also all about dumb luck.

On Jun 22, 3:17 pm, Ibrahim Fahmy <ib.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> another well timed call by the wizard
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:22 PM, italiana...@gmail.com <
>
>
>
> italiana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Let the dua ..... Begin..
>
> > -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>
> > ------------------------------
> > On Jun 21, 2010 5:53 PM, S. Jibreel <s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As predicted from my email from two weeks ago (read below), the dow
> > recovered to above 10,500. The market is now set up for another
> > disasterous decline. The decline could start as early as tomorrow and
> > as I said before, this leg of the decline is likely to be really
> > scary. Lots of corporations and governments to go bankrupt in this
> > one.
>
> > On Jun 10, 8:36 pm, Islam Elfayoumi <islam_elfayo...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > could see new high before leg down which is wave 5 of the bear trend.
>
> > > > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:13:46 -0700
> > > > Subject: dow recovery
> > > > From: s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com
> > > > To: market-...@googlegroups.com
>
> > > > If anyone is actively trading the markets, dow recovery could get it
> > > > back up to ~10,500.  However, that's just going to be a setup for the
> > > > next leg down.  The next leg will be downright scary because it is
> > > > usually the most powerful leg of the market movement (3rd of a 3rd for
> > > > technical analysts).  I hope everyone's ready iA.
>
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with
> > Hotmail.
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yursil

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Jun 22, 2010, 3:23:51 PM6/22/10
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my personal opinion is the markets going nowhere, fast.

S. Jibreel Hussain

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Jun 22, 2010, 3:33:17 PM6/22/10
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In my most humble opinion a blood bath is coming on the street.  USD is ready to dominate all assets and other currencies.  This should start immediately as of 3 pm today but Allah knows best.

On Jun 22, 2010 3:23 PM, "yursil" <yur...@gmail.com> wrote:

my personal opinion is the markets going nowhere, fast.


On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ilyas <andal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> Jibs should play pro poker...

Ahmed Naiem

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Jun 22, 2010, 3:35:49 PM6/22/10
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based on what inflection points

Wajahat Gilani

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Jun 22, 2010, 4:08:51 PM6/22/10
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naiem, i can give u a list of cooler sounding terms


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Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 3:35:49 PM
Subject: Re: dow recovery

S. Jibreel

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Jun 22, 2010, 4:13:59 PM6/22/10
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Just to clarify what I mean by blood bath....I don't mean the dreaded
"flash crash". But rather the resumption of the existing bear
market. This leg is usually the most powerful one so we can expect
all assets to deflate (especially stocks and real estate) very quickly
over the next several months. Towards the end of 2010, most people
will be shaking in their proverbial boots.


On Jun 22, 4:08 pm, Wajahat Gilani <wajgil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> naiem, i can give u a list of cooler sounding terms
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ahmed Naiem <ahmed.na...@gmail.com>
> To: market-...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 3:35:49 PM
> Subject: Re: dow recovery
>
> based on what inflection points
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM, S. Jibreel Hussain <s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In my most humble opinion a blood bath is coming on the street.  USD is ready to dominate all assets and other currencies.  This should start immediately as of 3 pm today but Allah knows best.
>
>
>
> >On Jun 22, 2010 3:23 PM, "yursil" <yur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>my personal opinion is the markets going nowhere, fast.
>
> >>On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ilyas <andaluc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Jibs should play pro poker...- Hide quoted text -

itali...@gmail.com

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Jun 22, 2010, 4:52:41 PM6/22/10
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I like doc martins




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Islam Elfayoumi

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Jun 22, 2010, 5:10:58 PM6/22/10
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you use the word proverbial too much.
 
Also, I heard you're not good at Madden anymore?
 
Tha's a shame, cuz I wanted to get props for beating you. 
 
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:13:59 -0700
> Subject: Re: dow recovery
> From: s.jibree...@gmail.com
> To: market-...@googlegroups.com
>

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S. Jibreel

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Jun 22, 2010, 5:27:16 PM6/22/10
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Fine....people will be shaking in their literal boots.

Also, this is no place for a Madden gaming discussion.

On Jun 22, 5:10 pm, Islam Elfayoumi <islam_elfayo...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> you use the word proverbial too much.
>
> Also, I heard you're not good at Madden anymore?
>
> Tha's a shame, cuz I wanted to get props for beating you.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:13:59 -0700
> > Subject: Re: dow recovery
> > From: s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com
> > To: market-...@googlegroups.com
>
> > Just to clarify what I mean by blood bath....I don't mean the dreaded
> > "flash crash". But rather the resumption of the existing bear
> > market. This leg is usually the most powerful one so we can expect
> > all assets to deflate (especially stocks and real estate) very quickly
> > over the next several months. Towards the end of 2010, most people
> > will be shaking in their proverbial boots.
>
> > On Jun 22, 4:08 pm, Wajahat Gilani <wajgil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > naiem, i can give u a list of cooler sounding terms
>
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Ahmed Naiem <ahmed.na...@gmail.com>
> > > To: market-...@googlegroups.com
> > > Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 3:35:49 PM
> > > Subject: Re: dow recovery
>
> > > based on what inflection points
>
> > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM, S. Jibreel Hussain <s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > In my most humble opinion a blood bath is coming on the street.  USD is ready to dominate all assets and other currencies.  This should start immediately as of 3 pm today but Allah knows best.
>
> > > >On Jun 22, 2010 3:23 PM, "yursil" <yur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>my personal opinion is the markets going nowhere, fast.
>
> > > >>On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ilyas <andaluc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>> Jibs should play pro poker...- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
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Islam Elfayoumi

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Jun 22, 2010, 5:31:12 PM6/22/10
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I agree with the resumption of bear trend scenario. Bottom should be around 6000.
 
I agree with multi-hundred pip drop in Cable coming soon. It is taking longer than expected.
 
Dow is still in wave 2 of the bigger bear wave 5. Wave 3 of 5 is a doozy, but classically wave 3 of 3 is the most volatile (see 4000 point drop from 9/08 to 11/08).
 

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Subject: RE: dow recovery
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:10:58 -0400

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Ilyas

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Jul 4, 2010, 12:24:41 AM7/4/10
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Deflating....
http://www.slate.com/id/2258810/

On Jun 22, 5:31 pm, Islam Elfayoumi <islam_elfayo...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> I agree with the resumption of bear trend scenario. Bottom should be around 6000.
>
> I agree with multi-hundred pip drop in Cable coming soon. It is taking longer than expected.
>
> Dow is still in wave 2 of the bigger bear wave 5. Wave 3 of 5 is a doozy, but classically wave 3 of 3 is the most volatile (see 4000 point drop from 9/08 to 11/08).
>
> From: islam_elfayo...@hotmail.com
> To: market-...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: dow recovery
> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:10:58 -0400
>
> you use the word proverbial too much.
>
> Also, I heard you're not good at Madden anymore?
>
> Tha's a shame, cuz I wanted to get props for beating you.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:13:59 -0700
> > Subject: Re: dow recovery
> > From: s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com
> > To: market-...@googlegroups.com
>
> > Just to clarify what I mean by blood bath....I don't mean the dreaded
> > "flash crash". But rather the resumption of the existing bear
> > market. This leg is usually the most powerful one so we can expect
> > all assets to deflate (especially stocks and real estate) very quickly
> > over the next several months. Towards the end of 2010, most people
> > will be shaking in their proverbial boots.
>
> > On Jun 22, 4:08 pm, Wajahat Gilani <wajgil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > naiem, i can give u a list of cooler sounding terms
>
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Ahmed Naiem <ahmed.na...@gmail.com>
> > > To: market-...@googlegroups.com
> > > Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 3:35:49 PM
> > > Subject: Re: dow recovery
>
> > > based on what inflection points
>
> > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM, S. Jibreel Hussain <s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > In my most humble opinion a blood bath is coming on the street.  USD is ready to dominate all assets and other currencies.  This should start immediately as of 3 pm today but Allah knows best.
>
> > > >On Jun 22, 2010 3:23 PM, "yursil" <yur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>my personal opinion is the markets going nowhere, fast.
>
> > > >>On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ilyas <andaluc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>> Jibs should play pro poker...- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
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yursil

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Jul 13, 2010, 1:11:35 PM7/13/10
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here we are... again.

S. Jibreel Hussain

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Jul 13, 2010, 1:18:03 PM7/13/10
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Its all within the usual zig zags of the market.  This time we shouldn't go above 10,394 and this time once the dow gives way to 10,000, we won't see it again for a very very long time.

On Jul 13, 2010 1:11 PM, "yursil" <yur...@gmail.com> wrote:

here we are... again.

S. Jibreel

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Jul 15, 2010, 12:31:26 PM7/15/10
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Do you guys remember the number I threw out their a couple days ago
(10,394)? As luck would have it, the dow tried to break above it 2
consecutive days and was rejected both times. If today continues to
be a big down day, the resumption of the downtrend will be confirmed
once again and we can all kiss 10,000's goodbye for a decade or so.

On Jul 13, 1:18 pm, "S. Jibreel Hussain" <s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com>
wrote:

yursil

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Jul 23, 2010, 5:18:49 PM7/23/10
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we'll we went past 10400...

its pretty hard to predict the market, but if we're talking about predictions, we've reached December 31st 2009  (10428) levels..

we've basically gone nowhere for most of the year...

this was my near-term prediction (and I think it is a riskier prediction to make than going down or up.)   with the majority going bearish

S. Jibreel

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Jul 23, 2010, 5:53:44 PM7/23/10
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Actually, markets trend only 30% of the time. So it's not riskier to
predict it will be in a range especially short term. In which
direction will it break out of the range is the tough question. Also,
the dow has hit 10,400 several times since the year 2000. But it
doesn't mean the market hasn't gone anywhere. Far from it, either the
market has topped and will go all the way back down (my leaning) or it
is correcting the top of 14,000 and will continue upwards.


On Jul 23, 5:18 pm, yursil <yur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> we'll we went past 10400...
>
> its pretty hard to predict the market, but if we're talking about
> predictions, we've reached December 31st 2009  (10428) levels..
>
> we've basically gone nowhere for most of the year...
>
> this was my near-term prediction (and I think it is a riskier prediction to
> make than going down or up.)   with the majority going bearish
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:31 PM, S. Jibreel <s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Do you guys remember the number I threw out their a couple days ago
> > (10,394)?  As luck would have it, the dow tried to break above it 2
> > consecutive days and was rejected both times.  If today continues to
> > be a big down day, the resumption of the downtrend will be confirmed
> > once again and we can all kiss 10,000's goodbye for a decade or so.
>
> > On Jul 13, 1:18 pm, "S. Jibreel Hussain" <s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Its all within the usual zig zags of the market.  This time we shouldn't
> > go
> > > above 10,394 and this time once the dow gives way to 10,000, we won't see
> > it
> > > again for a very very long time.
>
> > > On Jul 13, 2010 1:11 PM, "yursil" <yur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > here we are... again.- Hide quoted text -

Wajahat Gilani

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Jul 24, 2010, 12:58:08 AM7/24/10
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I would really like to meet the guy that thinks the dow is correcting to 14,000 any time soon.


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To: Market Musings <market-...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 5:53:44 PM
Subject: Re: dow recovery

Ilyas

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Jul 26, 2010, 2:06:14 PM7/26/10
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deflation in the mainstream news, again.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-0726-deflation-economy-20100726,0,1020949.story

On Jul 24, 12:58 am, Wajahat Gilani <wajgil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I would really like to meet the guy that thinks the dow is correcting to 14,000
> any time soon.
>
> ________________________________
> From: S. Jibreel <s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

Wajahat Gilani

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Jul 26, 2010, 3:04:53 PM7/26/10
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Ever since the G20 in Toronto, Dr. Krugman has been constantly writing about a deflationary depression.

but I'd like to point out one of the reasons they cited in the article: "the low speed at which money is changing hands", is something that the muslim nations of the past had mastered, but unfortunately we're so bad at it now, post Ottoman Empire.

Waj



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Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 2:06:14 PM
Subject: Re: dow recovery

itali...@gmail.com

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Jul 26, 2010, 10:55:11 PM7/26/10
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Between the anti crowd I.e. Bernake.. And the pro deflation worriers.. Looks like we may be smack dab in the middle...... Stagflation




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S. Jibreel

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Jul 29, 2010, 3:00:04 PM7/29/10
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Yursil,

You might be on to something with this 10,400 number being a magnet.

What kind of super math did you do to figure this number out? Is it
the partial integral of the nonlinear quadratic polynomial forming a
super magnet which will allow price to move at most 2 standard
deviations away before pulling it back in with its super strange
attraction? The 2 standard deviations above and below 10,400 forming
an asymptotic channel?

Please explain.

Thanks.

On Jul 26, 10:55 pm, "italiana...@gmail.com" <italiana...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Between the anti crowd I.e. Bernake.. And the pro deflation worriers.. Looks like we may be smack dab in the middle...... Stagflation
>
> -- Sent from my Palm Pre
> On Jul 26, 2010 2:06 PM, Ilyas &lt;andaluc...@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> deflation in the mainstream news, again.
>
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-0726-deflation-economy-20100726...
>
> On Jul 24, 12:58&nbsp;am, Wajahat Gilani &lt;wajgil...@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:
>
> &gt; I would really like to meet the guy that thinks the dow is correcting to 14,000
>
> &gt; any time soon.
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; ________________________________
>
> &gt; From: S. Jibreel &lt;s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com&gt;
>
> &gt; To: Market Musings &lt;market-...@googlegroups.com&gt;
>
> &gt; Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 5:53:44 PM
>
> &gt; Subject: Re: dow recovery
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; Actually, markets trend only 30% of the time. &nbsp;So it's not riskier to
>
> &gt; predict it will be in a range especially short term. &nbsp;In which
>
> &gt; direction will it break out of the range is the tough question. &nbsp;Also,
>
> &gt; the dow has hit 10,400 several times since the year 2000. &nbsp;But it
>
> &gt; doesn't mean the market hasn't gone anywhere. &nbsp;Far from it, either the
>
> &gt; market has topped and will go all the way back down (my leaning) or it
>
> &gt; is correcting the top of 14,000 and will continue upwards.
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; On Jul 23, 5:18 pm, yursil &lt;yur...@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; &gt; we'll we went past 10400...
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; &gt; its pretty hard to predict the market, but if we're talking about
>
> &gt; &gt; predictions, we've reached December 31st 2009 &nbsp;(10428) levels..
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; &gt; we've basically gone nowhere for most of the year...
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; &gt; this was my near-term prediction (and I think it is a riskier prediction to
>
> &gt; &gt; make than going down or up.) &nbsp; with the majority going bearish
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; &gt; On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:31 PM, S. Jibreel
>
> &gt; &gt;&lt;s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com&gt;wrote:
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; Do you guys remember the number I threw out their a couple days ago
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; (10,394)? &nbsp;As luck would have it, the dow tried to break above it 2
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; consecutive days and was rejected both times. &nbsp;If today continues to
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; be a big down day, the resumption of the downtrend will be confirmed
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; once again and we can all kiss 10,000's goodbye for a decade or so.
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; On Jul 13, 1:18 pm, "S. Jibreel Hussain" &lt;s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com&gt;
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; wrote:
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Its all within the usual zig zags of the market. &nbsp;This time we shouldn't
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; go
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; above 10,394 and this time once the dow gives way to 10,000, we won't see
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; it
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; again for a very very long time.
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Jul 13, 2010 1:11 PM, "yursil" &lt;yur...@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; here we are... again.- Hide quoted text -
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; &gt; - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> &gt;
>
> &gt; - Show quoted text -

yursil

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Jul 29, 2010, 3:01:00 PM7/29/10
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simple, super sufi math

Ilyas

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Jul 29, 2010, 3:16:14 PM7/29/10
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Lol

On Jul 29, 2010 3:01 PM, "yursil" <yur...@gmail.com> wrote:

simple, super sufi math



On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:00 PM, S. Jibreel <s.jibree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yursil,
>

> Y...

Ilyas

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Jul 29, 2010, 3:20:38 PM7/29/10
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BTW, Waj may ask you to put that on a spreadsheet. Be prepared.

On Jul 29, 3:01 pm, yursil <yur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> simple, super sufi math
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:00 PM, S. Jibreel <s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yursil,
>
> > You might be on to something with this 10,400 number being a magnet.
>
> > What kind of super math did you do to figure this number out?  Is it
> > the partial integral of the nonlinear quadratic polynomial forming a
> > super magnet which will allow price to move at most 2 standard
> > deviations away before pulling it back in with its super strange
> > attraction?  The 2 standard deviations above and below 10,400 forming
> > an asymptotic channel?
>
> > Please explain.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > On Jul 26, 10:55 pm, "italiana...@gmail.com" <italiana...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Between the anti crowd I.e. Bernake.. And the pro deflation worriers..
> > Looks like we may be smack dab in the middle...... Stagflation
>
> > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre
> > > On Jul 26, 2010 2:06 PM, Ilyas &lt;andaluc...@gmail.com<lt%3Bandaluc...@gmail.com>&gt;
> > wrote:
>
> > > deflation in the mainstream news, again.
>
> > >http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-0726-deflation-economy-20100726...
>
> > > On Jul 24, 12:58&nbsp;am, Wajahat Gilani &lt;wajgil...@yahoo.com<lt%3Bwajgil...@yahoo.com>&gt;
> > wrote:
>
> > > &gt; I would really like to meet the guy that thinks the dow is
> > correcting to 14,000
>
> > > &gt; any time soon.
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; ________________________________
>
> > > &gt; From: S. Jibreel &lt;s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com<lt%3Bs.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com>
> > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; To: Market Musings &lt;market-...@googlegroups.com<lt%3Bmarket...@googlegroups.com>
> > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 5:53:44 PM
>
> > > &gt; Subject: Re: dow recovery
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; Actually, markets trend only 30% of the time. &nbsp;So it's not
> > riskier to
>
> > > &gt; predict it will be in a range especially short term. &nbsp;In which
>
> > > &gt; direction will it break out of the range is the tough question.
> > &nbsp;Also,
>
> > > &gt; the dow has hit 10,400 several times since the year 2000. &nbsp;But
> > it
>
> > > &gt; doesn't mean the market hasn't gone anywhere. &nbsp;Far from it,
> > either the
>
> > > &gt; market has topped and will go all the way back down (my leaning) or
> > it
>
> > > &gt; is correcting the top of 14,000 and will continue upwards.
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; On Jul 23, 5:18 pm, yursil &lt;yur...@gmail.com<lt%3Byur...@gmail.com>&gt;
> > wrote:
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; &gt; we'll we went past 10400...
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; &gt; its pretty hard to predict the market, but if we're talking
> > about
>
> > > &gt; &gt; predictions, we've reached December 31st 2009 &nbsp;(10428)
> > levels..
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; &gt; we've basically gone nowhere for most of the year...
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; &gt; this was my near-term prediction (and I think it is a riskier
> > prediction to
>
> > > &gt; &gt; make than going down or up.) &nbsp; with the majority going
> > bearish
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; &gt; On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:31 PM, S. Jibreel
>
> > > &gt; &gt;&lt;s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com<gt%3B%26lt%3Bs.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com>
> > &gt;wrote:
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Do you guys remember the number I threw out their a couple
> > days ago
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; (10,394)? &nbsp;As luck would have it, the dow tried to
> > break above it 2
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; consecutive days and was rejected both times. &nbsp;If
> > today continues to
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; be a big down day, the resumption of the downtrend will be
> > confirmed
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; once again and we can all kiss 10,000's goodbye for a
> > decade or so.
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; On Jul 13, 1:18 pm, "S. Jibreel Hussain" &
> > lt;s.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com <lt%3Bs.jibreel.huss...@gmail.com>&gt;
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; wrote:
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Its all within the usual zig zags of the market.
> > &nbsp;This time we shouldn't
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; go
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; above 10,394 and this time once the dow gives way to
> > 10,000, we won't see
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; it
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; again for a very very long time.
>
> > > &gt;
>
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Jul 13, 2010 1:11 PM, "yursil" &
> > lt;yur...@gmail.com <lt%3Byur...@gmail.com>&gt; wrote:
>
> > > &gt;
>

S. Jibreel

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Yursil,

I just figured out how you got your up and down theory for the Dow.
You heard it on a Das Efx song in the early 90s:

"I biggedy-bum riggedy-rush chiggedy-chumps, I'm savage
I shake 'em up and down like the dow jones average"

Not the best of financial forecasters but they were spot on with this
call.

yursil

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Jul 29, 2010, 4:38:35 PM7/29/10
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they are the sufiggidy yo

S. Jibreel

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Jul 29, 2010, 4:56:19 PM7/29/10
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On a serious note, the dow is in the very very late stage of its
recovery. The point of these rallies during bear markets is to bring
as much money back into stocks as possible before going down again.
It's a psychological game. The temptation to buy stocks during the
last days of bear market rallies is very strong. Believe it or not,
even I'm tempted to buy stocks right now. But today's outside day
doji on a completed retracement wave count increases the chance of the
next leg down starting tomorrow.

Once the next leg of the decline begins, we're not going to see 10,000
again for a very long time (let alone 10,400). The next time we see
10,400 might be in the year 2045 or something. Yursil will email the
google group from his deathbed to tell us how his super magnet has
attracted the price back and the dow has gone nowhere. Even though
the dow will have gone below 1,000, bottomed out, and on its way to
100,000 in a bout of hyperinflation.

Wajahat Gilani

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Jul 29, 2010, 5:03:53 PM7/29/10
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yursil isn't using a tool to detect short-term movements to predict long-term forecasts, so no need for a model


From: Ilyas <andal...@gmail.com>
To: Market Musings <market-...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 3:20:38 PM
Subject: Re: dow recovery

yursil

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Jul 29, 2010, 10:09:25 PM7/29/10
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I don't know what you guys are talking about , My tool can handle
models just fine

On Thursday, July 29, 2010, Wajahat Gilani <wajg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> yursil isn't using a tool to detect short-term movements to predict long-term forecasts, so no need for a model

> From: Ilyas <andal...@gmail.com>
> To: Market Musings <market-...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 3:20:38

Ilyas

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Jul 29, 2010, 10:11:09 PM7/29/10
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Hahaha

On Jul 29, 2010 10:09 PM, "yursil" <yur...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't know what you guys are talking about , My tool can handle
models just fine


On Thursday, July 29, 2010, Wajahat Gilani <wajg...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> yursil isn't using a tool...

> Subject: Re: dow recovery
>
> BTW, Waj may ask you to put that on a spreadsheet. Be prepared.
>

> ...

yursil

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Jul 30, 2010, 5:02:15 PM7/30/10
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Marc-Faber-Questions-if-Dow-cnbc-1761530121.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=4&asset=&ccode=

"I want my readers to think very carefully about the implications of a Dow below 1,000 (or even just below 5,000). Does anyone really think that the money printing presses won't run 24 hours a day? For sure I don't," he wrote in his August report.

And how do you trade the Dow at 1,000?

One suggestion from Faber is buying a self-sustainable farm in the middle of nowhere surrounded by high voltage fences and barbed wire and equipped with booby traps and an arsenal of machine guns, hand grenades and armed vehicles guarded by vicious Dobermans.


I hope Kangals count
http://www.polisiye.com/yazi_resimleri/kangal.jpg

yursil

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Wajahat Gilani

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Aug 2, 2010, 7:06:49 PM8/2/10
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Assalaamualaykum,

From these articles, I hope everyone can infer how incoherent of a field Finance and Investments is.

walaikumsalaam
Wajahat Gilani


From: yursil <yur...@gmail.com>
To: market-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 10:34:27 AM
Subject: Re: dow recovery

itali...@gmail.com

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Aug 2, 2010, 7:24:14 PM8/2/10
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Not only do I infer... I concur




-- Sent from my Palm Pre

Islam Elfayoumi

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Aug 10, 2010, 9:31:45 AM8/10/10
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Cable:
 
Im covering here for 200 pip profit and will look to short again, iA.

Islam Elfayoumi

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Aug 10, 2010, 3:28:34 PM8/10/10
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I will re-enter my short again at 1.5845 and I am prepared to add to my short 3 more times if needed at 5945, 6045, and 6145.
 

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Subject: Cable
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:31:45 -0400

S. Jibreel

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Ramadan Mubarak everyone. The dow is shaping up to have a mubarak
ramadan as well.

andrew lijoi

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Islam Elfayoumi

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Aug 19, 2010, 1:25:27 AM8/19/10
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scary, but true. I hope nobody is holding stocks.
 

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:51:30 -0400
Subject: Re: dow recovery
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Wajahat Gilani

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Aug 19, 2010, 11:13:52 AM8/19/10
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i'm waiting to buy tesla after a big crash


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