The Mates' Sexual Authority Over Their Mates' Bodies, And The Command to Marry

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 The Mates' Sexual Authority Over Their Mates' Bodies, And The Command to Marry
3/20/11 By L. Tyler
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[1] Controversial marital concepts in the Bible
[2] 1 Corinthians 7:1-9 and Romans 13 in context
[3] What should one do if one's mate refuses to obey the Word
[4] What does Father Almighty do to His children who choose to disobey Him
[5] A very graphic and sexually explicit application of these principles, remembering that marriage is basically a sexual relationship.

[1] DID YOU REALIZE THAT THE FOLLOWING CONCEPTS ARE IN THE BIBLE?

The wife does not have delegated sexual authority over her own body, but the husband does have delegated sexual authority over her body and the wife must submit and be in subjection to the husband's authority which has been established and institued by God. The wife who resists her husband's sexual authority over her body opposes and resists the command appointed by God and will receive condemnation and judgment upon herself. Likewise also the husband does not have delegated sexual authority over his own body, but the wife does have delegated sexual authority over his body and the husband must submit and be in subjection to the wife's authority which has been established and institued by God. The husband who resists his wife's sexual authority over his body opposes and resists the command appointed by God and will receive condemnation and judgment upon himself. To the unmarried couple, the unmarried and the women stripped of or lacking husbands I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am, but if they do not have and exercise continent control of self, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with incontinent and passionate desire

READ ON TO SEE THESE PRINCIPLES  IN THE SCRIPTURES

+++1 Cor 7:  4The wife does not have authority* (<1850>Rom 13; 1 Cor 11) over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise also the husband does not have authority(<1850>Rom 13; 1 Cor 11) over his own body, but the wife does.
+++"Romans 13: 1Every person must submit and be in subjection to the governing authorities<1849> For there is no authority<1849> except from God, and those which exist are established and instituted by God. 2Therefore whoever resists the authority<1849> has opposed and resisted the command/ordinance appointed by God; and they who oppose and resist will receive condemnation and judgment upon themselves. . . . Do you want to have no fear of the authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; 4for the authority is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword^ in vain for no reason; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings [God's] wrath on the one who does wrong. [^ 1 Cor 11:10; Numbers 22:22-24,31; 1 Chronicles 21:15-17, 26-28, 30]
+++1 Cor 7:  8To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am. 9But if they do not have and exercise continent self-control~, they should marry`. For it is better to marry than to burn with incontinent and passionate desire

[2] HERE IS THE CONTEXT OF THESE VERSES

From NASB, ESV, HCSB, NKJV, YLT and http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/1co7.pdf
:
*******1 Cor 7: 1Now concerning the things about which you wrote, it is good for a man not to be touching~ (i.e. having sexual relations with -ESV) a woman.
~ = G680; vn Pres Mid; TO-BE-TOUCHING

*******1 Cor 7:  2But because of immoralities (i.e. the temptation to sexual immorality- ESV), each man  should be having` his own wife, and each woman should be having` her own husband.
` = G2192; vm Pres Act 3 Sg; LET-BE-HAVING; let-him-be-having !

*******1 Cor 7:  3The husband must be fulfilling^ his affectionate marital/conjugal duty to his wife, and likewise also the wife to her husband.
^ = G591; vm Pres Act 3 Sg; LET-BE-FROM-GIVING;
let-him-be-rendering !

*******1 Cor 7:  4The wife does not have authority* (Rom 13; 1 Cor 11) over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise also the husband does not have authority(Rom 13; 1 Cor 11) over his own body, but the wife does.
* = G1850; vi Pres Act 3 Sg; IS-authority-izING; is-having-jurisdiction; Strong's Lex 1850; (http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/1850.htm): "exercise (wield) power (authority) . . . 1850 eksousiázō (from 1849 /eksousía, "delegated power," see there) – having authority to act; "empowered because authorized." See 1849 (eksousia)." 1849 is used in Romans 13:1,2


FROM WHERE/WHOM THIS AUTHORITY?

*******"Romans 13: 1Every person must submit and be in subjection to the governing authorities<1849> For there is no authority<1849> except from God, and those which exist are established and instituted by God. 2Therefore whoever resists the authority<1849> has opposed and resisted the command/ordinance appointed by God; and they who oppose and resist will receive condemnation and judgment upon themselves. . . . Do you want to have no fear of the authority<1849>? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; 4for the authority<1849> is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword^ in vain for no reason; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings [God's] wrath on the one who does wrong. [^ 1 Cor 11:10; Numbers 22:22-24,31; 1 Chronicles 21:15-17, 26-28, 30]
NASB, ESV, NKJV, HCSB, YLT
<1849>(http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/1849.htm): "power, authority, weight, especially: moral authority, influence .. . conferred power; delegated empowerment ("authorization"), operating in a designated jurisdiction. . .  refers to the authority God gives to His saints – authorizing them to act"  Please see http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/rom13.pdf

WHAT IS THE APPLICATION, REMEMBERING THAT THE CONTEXT OF 1 COR 7:1-9 IS SEXUAL RELATIONS? PUT 1 COR 7:4 AND ROM 13:1,2 TOGETHER:
The wife does not have delegated sexual authority over her own body, but the husband does have delegated sexual authority over her body and the wife must submit and be in subjection to the husband's authority which has been established and institued by God. The wife who resists her husband's sexual authority over her body opposes and resists the command appointed by God and will receive condemnation and judgment upon herself. Likewise also the husband does not have delegated sexual authority over his own body, but the wife does have delegated sexual authority over his body and the husband must submit and be in subjection to the wife's authority which has been established and institued by God. The husband who resists his wife's sexual authority over his body opposes and resists the command appointed by God and will receive condemnation and judgment upon himself.

*******1 COR 7: 5Stop depriving"" one another, except by agreement for a limited  time, so that you may devote yourselves to fasting prayer, and be coming together' again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control~`. . .
NASB, ESV, HCSB, NKJV, YLT.
" = G650; vm Pres Act 2 Pl; BE-YE-deprivING; be-ye-depriving!
' = G4905; vs Pres midD/pasD 2 Pl; YE-MAY-BE-TOGETHER-COMING; ye-may-be-coming-together
~` = G192; n_ Acc Sg f; UN-HOLD; incontinence

******1 Cor 7:  8To the unmarried and the women stripped of and lacking husbands* I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am. 9But if they do not have and exercise continent self-control~, they should marry`. For it is better to marry than to burn with incontinent and passionate desire.
NASB, ESV, HCSB, NKJV, YLT
* = G5503; n_ Dat Pl f; WIDOWS; A woman stripped of her husband (http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/kjv/chera.html; http://www.eliyah.com/cgi-bin/strongs.cgi?file=greeklexicon&isindex=5503)
~ = egkrateuontai; G1467; vi Pres midD/pasD 3 Pl; THEY-ARE-IN-HOLDING; they-are-controlling-themselves
` = G1060; vm Aorist Active 3 Plural; BE^-THEM-MARRIED; ^be-them-married !
^ =From http://www.gracebiblechurch.us/grammar.pdf;
 "Aorist: [A; aor] Expresses action as a point and not over a period of time. "I washed" The action of the aorist tense may be represented by a dot (•). The aorist presents the action as attained. It states the fact of the action or event without regard to its duration. . . . Active: [A; act] The active voice represents the subject as acting." In the case of 1 Cor 7:9 the subjects are the people who are not having and exercising continent self-control. These are the subjects who are to act by being married in fact.

From http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:OCozhXkn4WwJ:www.clas.ufl.edu/users/jmarks/gksurvey/greek_commands.pdf+Greek+vm+Aorist+Active+3+Plural&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiAUHCRhunhEvlLf8L9_hfdjP0P_LOIJ_hhFJSsHhKBWyp4cW16HakqR4-m0Xhb5DX5D7nLrglOdN1DWeRO_TH2XMiTaw7T1pefeWJ1puqqAuqdzDzbpJXgD7chGf6osonfSd_b&sig=AHIEtbRlgF1yjV9WrmK09LKG4mTPtYcuig;
"The imperative is the mood of commands. Imperatives are formed by adding the following endings to the unaugmented stem
of the appropriate principal part (1st for present and second aorist imperative, 3rd for aorist active and middle, 6th for
aorist passive). The negative of the imperative is µÆ. There is also a perfect imperative, but it is rare [Smyth 382, 697-8, 765, 599g, 712-714]. . . . Since imperatives refer logically to future acts, they are considered primary sequence verbs. As a consequence (a) the
present and aorist differ only in aspect, and (b) an imperative may be used as the main verb in the apodosis of a future
more vivid condition."

From http://www.ntgreek.net/lesson33.htm:
"What we know of tense in general and of the aorist tense in particular remains true in the participle. Tense in Greek primarily has to do with kind of action, not time of action. And in the case of the aorist tense, even kind of action is left an open question. The aorist tense treats the action as a simple fact. Remember, "aorist" means indefinite.
So the aorist participle can be of service in many situations, whether the action in view is prior to or coincident with the action of the main verb, and whether the action denoted by the participle itself is punctiliar or ongoing. The aorist participle does not stipulate any of these; it allows for all of these. . . . the aorist is useful in many instances when the action denoted by the participle is thought of simply as an event."

[3] What should one do if one's mate refuses to obey the Word

So what should Joab do if his Abigail refuses his sincere attempts to be intimately and sexually having her to avoid sexual immorality and its temptations (1 Cor 7:1-9)? So what should Rahab do if her Jonah refuses her sincere attempts to be intimately and sexually having him to avoid sexual immorality and its temptations (1 Cor 7:1-9)?
***Gala 6: 1 Brothers, if someone is caught in any trespass, transgression or wrongdoing, you who are spiritual should restore such a person with a gentle spirit, watching out for yourselves so you won't be tempted also. NASB, ESV, HCSB, NKJV
***2 Tim 2:24 And a servant/slave of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25 in humility and gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the Truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
***Matt 18:15 “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone [Galatians 6:1; 2 Tim 2:24-26]. If he hears you, you have won back your brother. 16 But if he will not listen, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word/fact may be established.’ [2 Tim 2:24-26]17 And if he doesn't pay attention to them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church [1 Cor 5:3-5,11], he should be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.
***1 Cor 5: 3 For I indeed, though absent in body but present in spirit, have already decided about  him (as though I were present) who has so done this deed. 4 In the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 turn such a one over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the Day of the Lord Jesus. . . 11 But now I have written to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother, who is sexually immoral, or greedy, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler or an extortioner. Do not even eat with such a person.

IF THE SNARED IN SIN BELIEVER does not repent in godly sorrow, forsaking the sin (2 Cor 7) then that person is revealed to be an unbeliever
***Heb 12: 8 But if you are without discipline—which all receive —then you are illegitimate children and not sons.
***Matt 18:17 . . . . But if he refuses even to pay attention to the church [1 Cor 5:3-5,11], he should be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.
IF YOU ARE MARRIED TO THIS PERSON that you are now instructed to deal with as an unbeliever, the following Word is for you:

***1 Cor 7:10 Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife should not separate and depart from her husband. 11 But even if she does separate and depart, she should remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband should not leave or divorce his wife or put her away from him.
12 But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: If any brother has a wife who does not believe [the Word], and she consents and is willing to live with him, he should not leave or divorce her. 13 And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he consents and is willing to live with her, she should not leave or divorce him or send him away. 14 For the unbelieving husband is set apart by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is set apart by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. 15 But if the unbeliever separates, leaves ordeparts, he/she should separate, leaves or depart; a brother or a sister is not under [marital]bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace. 16 For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife? 17 But as God has distributed to each one, as the Lord has called each one, so he/she should live his life. And so I ordain in all the churches.. . .  20 Each one should remain in the same condition, situation or calling in which he was called.
NASB, ESV, NIV, NKJV, HCSB, AmpB

What should the local Church do if "brother" Saul or "sister" Sally is failing to control her/himself and abstain from sexual immorality and refuses to be married as commanded in 1 Cor 7 :2,9?
Gala 6:1
2 Tim 2:24-26
Matt 18:15-17
1 Cor 5:3-5,11

[4] What does Father Almighty do to His children who choose to disobey His instructions in 1 Cor 7:1-9 and Romans 13?

See Gala 6:1; 2 Tim 2:24-26; Matt 18:15-17; 1 Cor 5:3-5,11; 2 Thess 3:6-14; Romans 16:17,18; 2 Tim 3:20
******Heb 12:5 . . . My son, do not regard the Lord's discipline lightly, or faint when you are reproved by Him;  6 for the Lord disciplines the one He Loves, and punishes every son whom He receives.   7 Endure it as discipline: God is dealing with you as sons. For what son is there whom a father does not discipline? 8 But if you are without discipline— of which all partake —then you are illegitimate children and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we had natural fathers discipline us, and we respected them. Shouldn't we submit even more to the Father of spirits and live? 10 For they disciplined us for a short time based on what seemed best to them, but He does it for our benefit, so that we can share His holiness. 11 No discipline seems enjoyable at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

In 1 Corinthians 11 we saw severly disciplined those who had what others needed but refused to share with the needy what they could have shared. When a mate has the ability to meet her/his mate's needs to avoid sexual temptations to be immoral, and refuses to enable her/his mate to be intimately and sexually having her/him as commanded (1 Cor 7:1-5; Prov 5:18,19), such a mate is due for the chastening described at the end of the chapter:

***1 Cor 11:30 This is why many are weak, sick and ill among you, and [the bodies of] many have fallen asleep [in death]. 31 If we were truly and rightly evaluating ourselves, we would not be judged, 32 but when we are judged, we are disciplined by the Lord, so that we may not be condemned along with the world.

***1 Cor 11:10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her own head, because of the ANGELS.
***Hebrews 13:14Are they [THE ANGELS] not all ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation?
Numbers 22:22-24,31; 1 Chronicles 21:15-17, 26-28, 30
***Romans 13: Do you want to have no fear of the authority<1849>? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; 4for the authority<1849> is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for [THE ANGEL] does not bear the sword^ in vain for no reason; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings [God's] wrath on the one who does wrong. [^ 1 Cor 11:10; Numbers 22:22-24,31; 1 Chronicles 21:15-17, 26-28, 30]

We see ANGELS involved in our lives in the matter of the woman responding correctly to authority. We see ANGELS ministering/serving the children of God. We see ANGELS bearing swords to bring God's wrath on the one who does wrong, often resulting in much human suffering. I think it is wise for married couples to remember God's authorities who are serving and watching us, and bearing the sword of God's wrath that is used to discipline and punish those who do wrong in their marriages.

***1 Cor 11:30 This is why many are weak, sick and ill among you, and [the bodies of] many have fallen asleep [in death]. 31 If we were truly and rightly evaluating ourselves, we would not be judged, 32 but when we are judged, we are disciplined by the Lord, so that we may not be condemned along with the world.

[5] The following is a very graphic and explicit application of these principles. If graphic and explicit discussions of sex, sexual relations and sexual relationships offend or upset you, then please read no further. See below at vvvvvv






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When couples are on the honeymoon or having a very good marital and intimate relationship, there often is a complete freedom between the two to touch each other freely and without embarrassment or hesitation, specifically to touch each other's private parts. As the passion of one's marriage cools, that freedom and lack of embarrassment or hesitation gradually seems to disappear.  Yet the 1 Cor 7:2,3,4, 5 commands remain and should be obeyed.  If one of the two needs sexual intimacy to avoid sexual immorality, then that one should be  intimately and sexually using their authority over the other's body and should be intimately and sexually having the other. If one needs genital or breast contact, the one needing it should help her/his self and have that genital contact. If that means she needs to  hold, sit on or insert his genital, then she should do it and he should accept her authority over his body. If that means that he needs to be handling and touching her breasts, or that he needs for his genital to be in contact with or inside of her genital, then he should do it and she should accept her authority over her body.
If such intimate sexual contact  is painful, then medical relief should be sought and obtained. If the wife is too tired to actively  participate in the experience, then she can always let him find release by entering her from behind after she has acquired a comfortable position. If the husband is too tired to actively participate, he can just lay on his back and let his wife make his body her playground.
Prov 5:18Your fountain should be blessed,
        And rejoice in the wife of your youth.
   19As a loving hind and a graceful doe,
        Her breasts should satisfy you and fill you with delight at all times;
        Be enraptured, exhilarated and intoxicated always with her love<0160>.
NIV, ESV, NASB, HCSB, YLT


Godly marital behavior:
'Come, you who are blessed by My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared
for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you
gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger
and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick
and you visited me helpfully, I was in prison and you came to me.' 37
Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see
You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 And when
did we see You a stranger and welcome You, or naked and clothe You?
39  And  when  did  we  see you sick or in prison and visit You
helpfully?' 40 And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you,
as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to
Me. Mat 25

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