The Sinful Burning of the Koran
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The Sinful Burning of the Koran
By R. Tyler 9/8/10
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Yes, it is sinful to burn the Koran even though clearly Sharia Islam is the enemy of all true Christians, based on the public record given below at <#1>. Currently Moslems are killing Christians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan and Indonesia<see #2 below>. Clearly Sharia Moslems have made themselves the enemies of true Christians by their evil behavior as documented by Persecution.org. Sharia Islamists are as evil, dangerous and a threat or freedome and democracy as the Nazis (National Socialist German Workers' Party), Stalin's communists (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics), Obama's socialist and pro-communist members of his Executive Branch, and Mao's communists. There is no freedom of speech or religion in Islamic Sharia Law, but there sure is a lot of oppression of women.
Burning the Koran is the sin of paying back evil with evil. It violates the command to live in peace with everyone and violates the following:
14 Keep on blessing those who persecute you and do not curse them. . . . . 16 Live in harmony with each other. . . . 17 Do not pay anyone back with wickedness, injury, evil and or harm <2556 kak-os> for the wickedness, injury, evil and/or harm <2556 kak-os> [they did], but fix your thoughts on what is right and honorable in the sight of all people. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live in peace with everyone. 19 Never avenge yourselves, dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath. For it is written, “Vengeance belongs to me. I will pay them back, says the Lord.” 20 But “if your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him a drink. By doing this, you will pile burning coals on his head. 21 Do not be overcome and conquered by wickedness, injury, evil and/or harm <2556 kak-os>, but overcome and conquer wickedness, injury, evil and/or harm <2556 kak-os> with good and benefits." Rom 12
Burning the Koran is neither kind nor loving, fails to do good to the Moslems.
"27 “But I say to you who are listening: Kindly, gently, patiently and unselfishly Love your enemies. Do good to those who hate you. 28 Bless those who curse you, and pray for those who insult you. 29 If someone hits you on the cheek, offer him the other one as well, and if someone takes your coat, don’t keep back your shirt either. 30 Keep on giving [something] to everyone who asks you [for something], and if anyone takes what is yours, do not insist on getting it back. 31 Whatever you want people to do to and for you, do the same to them." Luke 6
Burning the Koran is sin because it is contentious and breeds contention, is not conciliatory, is not courteous to Moslems.
"1REMIND PEOPLE to . . . 2 To slander or abuse or speak evil of no one [including the sexually immoral and amoral], to avoid being contentious [with the morally and sexually immoral and amoral], to be forbearing, yielding, gentle, and conciliatory, and to show unqualified courtesy toward everybody [including the morally and sexually immoral and amoral]. 3For we also were once thoughtless and senseless, obstinate and disobedient, deluded and misled [blind and spiritually dead in our sins]; [we too were once] slaves to all sorts of cravings and pleasures, wasting our days in malice and jealousy and envy, hateful, hated, detestable and hating one another." Titus 3 From AB
1 Cor 10, paraphrased for application in [brackets]:
23 "All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up. 24 No one should seek his own benefit, but the benefit of his neighbor [including Moslems]. 25 [Burn any religious book you wish] without raising any question on the ground of conscience. . . . 27 If one of the unbelievers invites you to [a public book burning] and you are disposed to go, [partake in the event] without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 28 But if someone says to you, “[I believe that the public burning of the Koran is sinful],” then do not [be involved with such a book burning], for the sake of the one who informed you, and for the sake of conscience— 29 I do not mean your conscience, but his. For why should my [book burning] liberty be determined by someone else’s conscience? 30 If I partake [a book burning] with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of that for which I give thanks? 31 So, whether you [burn books or don't burn books], or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give no offense to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God, 33 just as I try to please everyone [including Moslems] in everything I do, not seeking my own advantage, but that of many, that they may be saved.'
Paraphrased for application:
". . . Everything is indeed clean and pure, but it is wrong for anyone to hurt the conscience of others [including Moslems] or to make them fall [into sinful behavior] by what he [does]. 21The right thing is to eat no meat or drink no wine [at all], or [burn Korans] if it makes your brother stumble or hurts his conscience or offends or weakens him [spiritually]. 22 Your personal convictions [on book burning]--exercise [them] as in God's presence, [privately and discretely] keeping them to yourself. Blessed (happy, to be envied) is he who has no reason to judge himself for what [book burning] he approves. 23 But the one who has doubts (misgivings, an uneasy conscience) about [burning a copy of the Koran], and then [burns a copy of the Koran], stands condemned [before God], because he is not true to his [own] convictions and he does not act from faith [that is based on and derived from the Word of God]. For whatever [behavior] does not originate and proceed from [such] faith is sin. 15: 1 WE WHO are strong [in our convictions based on the Word of God] ought to bear with the failings and the frailties and the tender scruples of the weak [in Spirit and in faith]; and [ought] not to please ourselves [to the harm of others, including Moslems]. 2 Each one of us should make it a practice to please his neighbor [including Moslems] for his good and for his true welfare, to strengthen and build him up [spiritually], 3 For Christ did not please Himself . Romans 12
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<#1> Islam denies that Jesus was crucified, died and rose from the dead.
Translation: Yusufali
[an-Nisa' 4:157.9] "That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-"
Sura 2, The Heifer - 2:116] They said, "GOD has begotten a son!" Be He glorified; never! To Him belongs everything in the heavens and the earth; all are subservient to Him.
[an-Nisa' 4:171.21] O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His apostles.
http://www.bereanpublishers.com/Persecution_of_Christians/sharia_law.htm
"In most countries with Sharia Law the Jews and Christians have been killed or left long ago. The poor are the ones to be flogged, amputated, crucified now days. The vast majority of the people who live under Sharia Law are people deemed "dispensable," and to whom human rights do NOT exist. The vast majority of people living under the terror and tyranny of Sharia Law have no basic human rights. The people are subjected to the Sharia atrocities. The masses under Sharia Law have NO CHOICE or chance to a secular trial, where they could be imprisoned, instead of having hands of feet amputated. The vast majority will be quickly flogged, amputated, or executed."
=================<#2>=================
THE WAY OF ISLAM - FIGHTING AND SLAYING UNBELIEVERS and CHRISTIAN CONVERTS
+++[an-Nisa' 4:89.48] "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of God (From what is forbidden). But if they
turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-"
+++[at-Taubah 9:5.11] "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for God is Oft-forgiving, MostMerciful."++++
********With Context meaning:
[at-Taubah 9:5.11] But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans [with whom ye have NOT entered into alliance and who have subsequently failed you in aught, and aided some one against you] wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.+++++---------------------------------
*** Yusuf Ali's Translation of AL-QURAN...
*** Surah 008 (AL-ANFAAL) : Ayah 012
008.012 "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
*** Yusuf Ali's Translation of AL-QURAN...
*** Surah 066 (AT-TAHRIIM) : Ayah 009
066.009 "O Prophet! Strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)."
The Family of Imran *************************
1.[3.28] "Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming."
The Women************************
******8.[4.144] "O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a
manifest proof against yourselves?"
[4.151] "These it is that are truly unbelievers, and We have prepared for the unbelievers a disgraceful chastisement."
[4.160] "Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their
hindering many (people) from Allah's way."
Immunity**************************
7.[9.73] "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the
destination."
8.[9.85] "And let not their property and their children excite your admlration; Allah only wishes to chastise them with these in this world and (that) their souls may depart while they are unbelievers."
[9.123] "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)."
"in modern English it often refers to an Islamic concept, the wide body of Islamic religious law[citation needed]. Used thus, it refers to the legal framework within which the public and private aspects of life are regulated for those living in a legal system based on Islamic principles of jurisprudence and for Muslims living outside the domain. Sharia deals with many aspects of day-to-day life, including politics, economics, banking, business, contracts, family, sexuality, hygiene, and social issues."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_Law"
Making SLAVES out of Christians:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20586
"The International Criminal Court this week issued warrants for the arrest of Ahmed Haroun, the minister for humanitarian affairs of Sudan, and Ali Kosheib, a leader of that country’s notorious janjaweed militia. . . . Charges include murder, rape, torture and “imprisonment or severe deprivation of liberty.” Severe deprivation of liberty -- that is, slavery. Egypt’s Al-Ahram Weekly observed this week that in Sudan, “slavery, sanctioned by religious zealots, ravaged the southern parts of the country and much of the west as well. . . . . The BBC reported in March 2007 that slave raids “were a common feature of Sudan’s 21-year north-south war, which ended in 2005….According to a study by the Kenya-based Rift Valley Institute, some 11,000 young boys and girls were seized and taken across the internal border -- many to the states of South Darfur and West Kordofan….Most were forcibly converted to Islam, given Muslim names and told not to speak their mother tongue.” . . . While non-Muslims are enslaved and often forcibly converted to Islam, their conversion does not lead to their freedom. Mauritanian anti-slavery campaigner Boubacar Messaoud explains: “It’s like having sheep or goats. If a woman is a slave, her descendants are slaves.”
Besides being practiced more or less openly today in Sudan and Mauritania, there is evidence that slavery still continues beneath the surface in other majority-Muslim countries also -- notably Saudi Arabia,”"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IRAQ'S PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
07/07/10 Another Christian killed in Mosul --
Targeted attacks against Iraqi Christians continue. . . . The agony continues for the Christian community in Mosul, the most dangerous city in Iraq. A 54 year old Syrian Orthodox was killed because of his public Christian stand and practice. The Christians are despondent and living in constant fear.
http://www.persecution.org/suffering/index.php
05/14/10 'Obliterating' Iraq's Christians
"Relentless waves of bombings, assassinations, kidnappings, extortions and rapes have triggered a mass exodus of Christians from Iraq over the past seven years. Since 2003, over half of the estimated 1.5 million Iraqi Chaldean Catholics, Assyrian, Syriac Orthodox, and Armenian Christians, as well as some Protestants have fled to Syria, Jordan and farther flung places. While only 3 or 4 percent of Iraq's pre-2003 population, they account for 40 percent of its refugees, the UN reported.
"Christians remain the largest non-Muslim minority there but church leaders express a real fear that the light of the faith in Iraq that is said to have been kindled personally by Thomas, one of Jesus' Twelve Apostles, could soon be extinguished. Iraq's other non-Muslim religions, the much smaller groups of Mandeans (followers of John the Baptist), Yizidis (an ancient angel-centered religion), Bahai's and Jews are also all being forced out by violence.
"Religious persecution in Iraq is so "egregious" that the country has now been included, alongside the likes of notoriously repressive Iran and China, on a recommended short list of "Countries of Particular Concern" under the International Religious Freedom Act, by the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom." http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2010/05/obliterating_iraqs_christians.html
01/19/10 Iraq: Targeted execution of Christians continues, media and government silent
"The tactic is to murder Christians, because the media does not talk about it."
"Mosul: targeted execution of Christians continues in media and government silence," from AsiaNews, January 19 (thanks to C. Cantoni):
"Mosul (AsiaNews) - The second targeted attack against the Christian community in less than 24 hours, the indifference of the security forces who did not intervene.
"They did not intervene, of course, because they believe in the same jihad.
"Local witnesses reported that "the murder took place in front of the security forces, who saw all the phases of the attack, but did not intervene." A Catholic in Mosul says that "the tactic is to murder Christians, because the media does not talk about it." A strategy that aims to push Christians towards the plain of Nineveh, "in the silence and indifference of the government and the international community."
"A source for AsiaNews in Mosul, adds that "Christians are living in panic and have begun fleeing from the city".
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/01/iraq-targeted-execution-of-christians-continues-media-and-government-silent.html
06/30/08 Iraq's Persecution of Christians Continues to Spiral out of Control
"Indeed, Iraqi Christians have continued to find themselves in the cross hairs of faith-inspired violence. The worst episodes have occurred in regions with diverse ethnic and religious groups, such as Baghdad and Mosul, where the majority of Iraq's Christians live. The State Department reported last year that Muslim extremists "warned Christians living in Baghdad's Dora district to convert, leave or be killed."
"Commission representatives recently visited Iraq. Among other things, they are assessing whether religious freedom is threatened due to possible collusion between Shiite militias and Iraqi government ministries, and whether the country's smallest religious minorities are being marginalized by government officials and parastate militias. , , ,"
http://www.christiansofiraq.com/outofcontroljul308.html
===AFGHANISTAN'S AND IRAQ'S MURDER OF CHRISTIANS===
From: keith hobkirk
http://www.allaboutgod.net/group/noondaydevotion/forum/topics/for-urgent-prayer
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:30 AM
Subject: Please forward this to all your contacts
"We need your help to stop the Afghan government from arresting Afghan Christians and condemning them to death by public execution! [The enclosed letter] "addresses recent events inside Afghanistan that have unfolded since May 27th, 2010 after an incendiary documentary showing photos and videos of secret "Afghan Christian Converts" aired on Noorin TV, an independent tv station based in Kabul. The documentary was the first of its kind to ever air publicly on national TV in Afghanistan, a country that considers itself to be 100% Muslim. The controversial content, revealing names and faces of supposed Afghan Christian converts, sparked riots and demonstrations throughout Afghanistan in the days that followed.
During the ensuing protests, demonstrators called on President Hamid Karzai and the Afghan government to take strong and decisive actions against these exposed Afghan Christian converts by enforcing the Afghan constitution, based on Islamic Sharia law, which clearly call for the arrest and public execution of anyone who leaves Islam for another religion.
"According to an online report by the Associated Free Press dated June 1, 2010, Abdul Sattar Khawasi, deputy secretary of the Afghan lower house in parliament, called for the execution of Christian converts from Islam saying, "those Afghans that appeared in this video film should be executed in public, the house should order the Attorney General and the NDS (intelligence agency) to arrest these Afghans and execute them".
"In another reported statement, Qazi Nazir Ahmad, a lawmaker from Herat, declared that killing a Muslim who converts to Christianity is "not a crime". Waheed Omar, the spokesman for the President, told reporters that President Hamid Karzai himself was "personally" taking an interest in this case, and had ordered his interior minister and the head of the country´s spy agency to do a full investigation and "to take immediate and serious action to prevent this phenomenon".
"Reports from inside Afghanistan already tell of many arrests in recent days, frequent and ongoing searches of homes and businesses, as well as claims of torture by those under arrest in an effort to forcibly extract the names of other Afghan Christian converts and the locations of secret Afghan Christian "churches" and underground fellowships throughout the country."
It is a crying shame that America does not have enough of the right kind of "content of character" to intervene. Since this is a humanitarian crisis and neither Iraq or Afghanistan is doing nothing about it the USA could demand and set up bases in Mosul and Kabul to provide safe havens for victims and to ensure that basic UN human rights are maintained among the population. As it is now, our tax money is subsidizing this grossly vicious persecution of Christians and minorities, and that ain't right! If Iraq and Afghanistan continue to do this, allowing such persecution, and the USA does nothing about it, no more American blood should be spent on Iraq's or Afghanistan's soil and for sure no more USA money should go to support Iraq or Afghanistan. Please pray and then contact your elected representatives.
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
• Posted on July 21, 2010 at 8:00am
AEA NEWS
Asia Evangelical Alliance
Innocent Christians shot dead in Pakistan
"The Asia Evangelical Alliance expresses profound grief over the death of two Christians who were shot death in Pakistan according to reports.
"Suspected Islamic extremists on July 19 outside a courthouse shot dead two Christians accused of “blaspheming” prophet Muhammad.
"The armed gunmen shot the Rev. Rashid Emmanuel, 32, and his 30-year-old brother Sajid Emmanuel, days after handwriting experts on Wednesday (July 14) notified police that signatures on papers denigrating Muhammad did not match those of the accused. Expected to be exonerated soon, the two leaders of United Ministries Pakistan were being led in handcuffs back to jail under police custody when they were shot at 2:17 p.m., Christians present said."
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It appears that to Sharia Moslems, a good Christian is a dead Christian.
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Having been made in Jehovah-God's likeness, we shouldn't think that the divine nature is like gold or silver or stone, or an image fashioned by human art and imagination. Therefore, having overlooked the times of our ignorance, Jehovah now commands all people everywhere to turn to Jehovah-God from their sin, because He has set a day on which He is going to judge all people in righteousness by the Man, Jesus Christ, that He has appointed. He has provided proof of this to everyone by raising Jesus Christ from the dead. Everyone who keeps on believing in and relying on Jesus Christ may have eternal life. For Jehovah-God so compassionately loved all people that He gave His only Son, born of woman, that whoever continues to believe in and rely on Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For Jehovah-God did not send his Son into the world to condemn people, but to save people through Him. Whoever is believing in and relying on Him is not condemned, but anyone who does not keep on relying on Him stands condemned already because of failing to believe and trust in the nature and character of Jehovah-God's only Son, born of woman.
By R. Tyler 9/8/10
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Yes, it is sinful to burn the Koran even though clearly Sharia Islam is the enemy of all true Christians, based on the public record given below at <#1>. Currently Moslems are killing Christians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan and Indonesia<see #2 below>. Clearly Sharia Moslems have made themselves the enemies of true Christians by their evil behavior as documented by Persecution.org. Sharia Islamists are as evil, dangerous and a threat or freedome and democracy as the Nazis (National Socialist German Workers' Party), Stalin's communists (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics), Obama's socialist and pro-communist members of his Executive Branch, and Mao's communists. There is no freedom of speech or religion in Islamic Sharia Law, but there sure is a lot of oppression of women.
Burning the Koran is the sin of paying back evil with evil. It violates the command to live in peace with everyone and violates the following:
14 Keep on blessing those who persecute you and do not curse them. . . . . 16 Live in harmony with each other. . . . 17 Do not pay anyone back with wickedness, injury, evil and or harm <2556 kak-os> for the wickedness, injury, evil and/or harm <2556 kak-os> [they did], but fix your thoughts on what is right and honorable in the sight of all people. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live in peace with everyone. 19 Never avenge yourselves, dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath. For it is written, “Vengeance belongs to me. I will pay them back, says the Lord.” 20 But “if your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him a drink. By doing this, you will pile burning coals on his head. 21 Do not be overcome and conquered by wickedness, injury, evil and/or harm <2556 kak-os>, but overcome and conquer wickedness, injury, evil and/or harm <2556 kak-os> with good and benefits." Rom 12
Burning the Koran is neither kind nor loving, fails to do good to the Moslems.
"27 “But I say to you who are listening: Kindly, gently, patiently and unselfishly Love your enemies. Do good to those who hate you. 28 Bless those who curse you, and pray for those who insult you. 29 If someone hits you on the cheek, offer him the other one as well, and if someone takes your coat, don’t keep back your shirt either. 30 Keep on giving [something] to everyone who asks you [for something], and if anyone takes what is yours, do not insist on getting it back. 31 Whatever you want people to do to and for you, do the same to them." Luke 6
Burning the Koran is sin because it is contentious and breeds contention, is not conciliatory, is not courteous to Moslems.
"1REMIND PEOPLE to . . . 2 To slander or abuse or speak evil of no one [including the sexually immoral and amoral], to avoid being contentious [with the morally and sexually immoral and amoral], to be forbearing, yielding, gentle, and conciliatory, and to show unqualified courtesy toward everybody [including the morally and sexually immoral and amoral]. 3For we also were once thoughtless and senseless, obstinate and disobedient, deluded and misled [blind and spiritually dead in our sins]; [we too were once] slaves to all sorts of cravings and pleasures, wasting our days in malice and jealousy and envy, hateful, hated, detestable and hating one another." Titus 3 From AB
1 Cor 10, paraphrased for application in [brackets]:
23 "All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up. 24 No one should seek his own benefit, but the benefit of his neighbor [including Moslems]. 25 [Burn any religious book you wish] without raising any question on the ground of conscience. . . . 27 If one of the unbelievers invites you to [a public book burning] and you are disposed to go, [partake in the event] without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 28 But if someone says to you, “[I believe that the public burning of the Koran is sinful],” then do not [be involved with such a book burning], for the sake of the one who informed you, and for the sake of conscience— 29 I do not mean your conscience, but his. For why should my [book burning] liberty be determined by someone else’s conscience? 30 If I partake [a book burning] with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of that for which I give thanks? 31 So, whether you [burn books or don't burn books], or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give no offense to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God, 33 just as I try to please everyone [including Moslems] in everything I do, not seeking my own advantage, but that of many, that they may be saved.'
Paraphrased for application:
". . . Everything is indeed clean and pure, but it is wrong for anyone to hurt the conscience of others [including Moslems] or to make them fall [into sinful behavior] by what he [does]. 21The right thing is to eat no meat or drink no wine [at all], or [burn Korans] if it makes your brother stumble or hurts his conscience or offends or weakens him [spiritually]. 22 Your personal convictions [on book burning]--exercise [them] as in God's presence, [privately and discretely] keeping them to yourself. Blessed (happy, to be envied) is he who has no reason to judge himself for what [book burning] he approves. 23 But the one who has doubts (misgivings, an uneasy conscience) about [burning a copy of the Koran], and then [burns a copy of the Koran], stands condemned [before God], because he is not true to his [own] convictions and he does not act from faith [that is based on and derived from the Word of God]. For whatever [behavior] does not originate and proceed from [such] faith is sin. 15: 1 WE WHO are strong [in our convictions based on the Word of God] ought to bear with the failings and the frailties and the tender scruples of the weak [in Spirit and in faith]; and [ought] not to please ourselves [to the harm of others, including Moslems]. 2 Each one of us should make it a practice to please his neighbor [including Moslems] for his good and for his true welfare, to strengthen and build him up [spiritually], 3 For Christ did not please Himself . Romans 12
================<#1>=================
<#1> Islam denies that Jesus was crucified, died and rose from the dead.
Translation: Yusufali
[an-Nisa' 4:157.9] "That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-"
Sura 2, The Heifer - 2:116] They said, "GOD has begotten a son!" Be He glorified; never! To Him belongs everything in the heavens and the earth; all are subservient to Him.
[an-Nisa' 4:171.21] O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His apostles.
http://www.bereanpublishers.com/Persecution_of_Christians/sharia_law.htm
"In most countries with Sharia Law the Jews and Christians have been killed or left long ago. The poor are the ones to be flogged, amputated, crucified now days. The vast majority of the people who live under Sharia Law are people deemed "dispensable," and to whom human rights do NOT exist. The vast majority of people living under the terror and tyranny of Sharia Law have no basic human rights. The people are subjected to the Sharia atrocities. The masses under Sharia Law have NO CHOICE or chance to a secular trial, where they could be imprisoned, instead of having hands of feet amputated. The vast majority will be quickly flogged, amputated, or executed."
=================<#2>=================
THE WAY OF ISLAM - FIGHTING AND SLAYING UNBELIEVERS and CHRISTIAN CONVERTS
+++[an-Nisa' 4:89.48] "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of God (From what is forbidden). But if they
turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-"
+++[at-Taubah 9:5.11] "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for God is Oft-forgiving, MostMerciful."++++
********With Context meaning:
[at-Taubah 9:5.11] But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans [with whom ye have NOT entered into alliance and who have subsequently failed you in aught, and aided some one against you] wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.+++++---------------------------------
*** Yusuf Ali's Translation of AL-QURAN...
*** Surah 008 (AL-ANFAAL) : Ayah 012
008.012 "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
*** Yusuf Ali's Translation of AL-QURAN...
*** Surah 066 (AT-TAHRIIM) : Ayah 009
066.009 "O Prophet! Strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)."
The Family of Imran *************************
1.[3.28] "Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming."
The Women************************
******8.[4.144] "O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a
manifest proof against yourselves?"
[4.151] "These it is that are truly unbelievers, and We have prepared for the unbelievers a disgraceful chastisement."
[4.160] "Wherefore for the iniquity of those who are Jews did We disallow to them the good things which had been made lawful for them and for their
hindering many (people) from Allah's way."
Immunity**************************
7.[9.73] "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the
destination."
8.[9.85] "And let not their property and their children excite your admlration; Allah only wishes to chastise them with these in this world and (that) their souls may depart while they are unbelievers."
[9.123] "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)."
"in modern English it often refers to an Islamic concept, the wide body of Islamic religious law[citation needed]. Used thus, it refers to the legal framework within which the public and private aspects of life are regulated for those living in a legal system based on Islamic principles of jurisprudence and for Muslims living outside the domain. Sharia deals with many aspects of day-to-day life, including politics, economics, banking, business, contracts, family, sexuality, hygiene, and social issues."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_Law"
Making SLAVES out of Christians:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20586
"The International Criminal Court this week issued warrants for the arrest of Ahmed Haroun, the minister for humanitarian affairs of Sudan, and Ali Kosheib, a leader of that country’s notorious janjaweed militia. . . . Charges include murder, rape, torture and “imprisonment or severe deprivation of liberty.” Severe deprivation of liberty -- that is, slavery. Egypt’s Al-Ahram Weekly observed this week that in Sudan, “slavery, sanctioned by religious zealots, ravaged the southern parts of the country and much of the west as well. . . . . The BBC reported in March 2007 that slave raids “were a common feature of Sudan’s 21-year north-south war, which ended in 2005….According to a study by the Kenya-based Rift Valley Institute, some 11,000 young boys and girls were seized and taken across the internal border -- many to the states of South Darfur and West Kordofan….Most were forcibly converted to Islam, given Muslim names and told not to speak their mother tongue.” . . . While non-Muslims are enslaved and often forcibly converted to Islam, their conversion does not lead to their freedom. Mauritanian anti-slavery campaigner Boubacar Messaoud explains: “It’s like having sheep or goats. If a woman is a slave, her descendants are slaves.”
Besides being practiced more or less openly today in Sudan and Mauritania, there is evidence that slavery still continues beneath the surface in other majority-Muslim countries also -- notably Saudi Arabia,”"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IRAQ'S PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
07/07/10 Another Christian killed in Mosul --
Targeted attacks against Iraqi Christians continue. . . . The agony continues for the Christian community in Mosul, the most dangerous city in Iraq. A 54 year old Syrian Orthodox was killed because of his public Christian stand and practice. The Christians are despondent and living in constant fear.
http://www.persecution.org/suffering/index.php
05/14/10 'Obliterating' Iraq's Christians
"Relentless waves of bombings, assassinations, kidnappings, extortions and rapes have triggered a mass exodus of Christians from Iraq over the past seven years. Since 2003, over half of the estimated 1.5 million Iraqi Chaldean Catholics, Assyrian, Syriac Orthodox, and Armenian Christians, as well as some Protestants have fled to Syria, Jordan and farther flung places. While only 3 or 4 percent of Iraq's pre-2003 population, they account for 40 percent of its refugees, the UN reported.
"Christians remain the largest non-Muslim minority there but church leaders express a real fear that the light of the faith in Iraq that is said to have been kindled personally by Thomas, one of Jesus' Twelve Apostles, could soon be extinguished. Iraq's other non-Muslim religions, the much smaller groups of Mandeans (followers of John the Baptist), Yizidis (an ancient angel-centered religion), Bahai's and Jews are also all being forced out by violence.
"Religious persecution in Iraq is so "egregious" that the country has now been included, alongside the likes of notoriously repressive Iran and China, on a recommended short list of "Countries of Particular Concern" under the International Religious Freedom Act, by the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom." http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2010/05/obliterating_iraqs_christians.html
01/19/10 Iraq: Targeted execution of Christians continues, media and government silent
"The tactic is to murder Christians, because the media does not talk about it."
"Mosul: targeted execution of Christians continues in media and government silence," from AsiaNews, January 19 (thanks to C. Cantoni):
"Mosul (AsiaNews) - The second targeted attack against the Christian community in less than 24 hours, the indifference of the security forces who did not intervene.
"They did not intervene, of course, because they believe in the same jihad.
"Local witnesses reported that "the murder took place in front of the security forces, who saw all the phases of the attack, but did not intervene." A Catholic in Mosul says that "the tactic is to murder Christians, because the media does not talk about it." A strategy that aims to push Christians towards the plain of Nineveh, "in the silence and indifference of the government and the international community."
"A source for AsiaNews in Mosul, adds that "Christians are living in panic and have begun fleeing from the city".
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/01/iraq-targeted-execution-of-christians-continues-media-and-government-silent.html
06/30/08 Iraq's Persecution of Christians Continues to Spiral out of Control
"Indeed, Iraqi Christians have continued to find themselves in the cross hairs of faith-inspired violence. The worst episodes have occurred in regions with diverse ethnic and religious groups, such as Baghdad and Mosul, where the majority of Iraq's Christians live. The State Department reported last year that Muslim extremists "warned Christians living in Baghdad's Dora district to convert, leave or be killed."
"Commission representatives recently visited Iraq. Among other things, they are assessing whether religious freedom is threatened due to possible collusion between Shiite militias and Iraqi government ministries, and whether the country's smallest religious minorities are being marginalized by government officials and parastate militias. , , ,"
http://www.christiansofiraq.com/outofcontroljul308.html
===AFGHANISTAN'S AND IRAQ'S MURDER OF CHRISTIANS===
From: keith hobkirk
http://www.allaboutgod.net/group/noondaydevotion/forum/topics/for-urgent-prayer
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:30 AM
Subject: Please forward this to all your contacts
"We need your help to stop the Afghan government from arresting Afghan Christians and condemning them to death by public execution! [The enclosed letter] "addresses recent events inside Afghanistan that have unfolded since May 27th, 2010 after an incendiary documentary showing photos and videos of secret "Afghan Christian Converts" aired on Noorin TV, an independent tv station based in Kabul. The documentary was the first of its kind to ever air publicly on national TV in Afghanistan, a country that considers itself to be 100% Muslim. The controversial content, revealing names and faces of supposed Afghan Christian converts, sparked riots and demonstrations throughout Afghanistan in the days that followed.
During the ensuing protests, demonstrators called on President Hamid Karzai and the Afghan government to take strong and decisive actions against these exposed Afghan Christian converts by enforcing the Afghan constitution, based on Islamic Sharia law, which clearly call for the arrest and public execution of anyone who leaves Islam for another religion.
"According to an online report by the Associated Free Press dated June 1, 2010, Abdul Sattar Khawasi, deputy secretary of the Afghan lower house in parliament, called for the execution of Christian converts from Islam saying, "those Afghans that appeared in this video film should be executed in public, the house should order the Attorney General and the NDS (intelligence agency) to arrest these Afghans and execute them".
"In another reported statement, Qazi Nazir Ahmad, a lawmaker from Herat, declared that killing a Muslim who converts to Christianity is "not a crime". Waheed Omar, the spokesman for the President, told reporters that President Hamid Karzai himself was "personally" taking an interest in this case, and had ordered his interior minister and the head of the country´s spy agency to do a full investigation and "to take immediate and serious action to prevent this phenomenon".
"Reports from inside Afghanistan already tell of many arrests in recent days, frequent and ongoing searches of homes and businesses, as well as claims of torture by those under arrest in an effort to forcibly extract the names of other Afghan Christian converts and the locations of secret Afghan Christian "churches" and underground fellowships throughout the country."
It is a crying shame that America does not have enough of the right kind of "content of character" to intervene. Since this is a humanitarian crisis and neither Iraq or Afghanistan is doing nothing about it the USA could demand and set up bases in Mosul and Kabul to provide safe havens for victims and to ensure that basic UN human rights are maintained among the population. As it is now, our tax money is subsidizing this grossly vicious persecution of Christians and minorities, and that ain't right! If Iraq and Afghanistan continue to do this, allowing such persecution, and the USA does nothing about it, no more American blood should be spent on Iraq's or Afghanistan's soil and for sure no more USA money should go to support Iraq or Afghanistan. Please pray and then contact your elected representatives.
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
• Posted on July 21, 2010 at 8:00am
AEA NEWS
Asia Evangelical Alliance
Innocent Christians shot dead in Pakistan
"The Asia Evangelical Alliance expresses profound grief over the death of two Christians who were shot death in Pakistan according to reports.
"Suspected Islamic extremists on July 19 outside a courthouse shot dead two Christians accused of “blaspheming” prophet Muhammad.
"The armed gunmen shot the Rev. Rashid Emmanuel, 32, and his 30-year-old brother Sajid Emmanuel, days after handwriting experts on Wednesday (July 14) notified police that signatures on papers denigrating Muhammad did not match those of the accused. Expected to be exonerated soon, the two leaders of United Ministries Pakistan were being led in handcuffs back to jail under police custody when they were shot at 2:17 p.m., Christians present said."
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It appears that to Sharia Moslems, a good Christian is a dead Christian.
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Having been made in Jehovah-God's likeness, we shouldn't think that the divine nature is like gold or silver or stone, or an image fashioned by human art and imagination. Therefore, having overlooked the times of our ignorance, Jehovah now commands all people everywhere to turn to Jehovah-God from their sin, because He has set a day on which He is going to judge all people in righteousness by the Man, Jesus Christ, that He has appointed. He has provided proof of this to everyone by raising Jesus Christ from the dead. Everyone who keeps on believing in and relying on Jesus Christ may have eternal life. For Jehovah-God so compassionately loved all people that He gave His only Son, born of woman, that whoever continues to believe in and rely on Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For Jehovah-God did not send his Son into the world to condemn people, but to save people through Him. Whoever is believing in and relying on Him is not condemned, but anyone who does not keep on relying on Him stands condemned already because of failing to believe and trust in the nature and character of Jehovah-God's only Son, born of woman.
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