AIS on Aircraft

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Gsquare 589

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Jul 18, 2011, 3:46:13 PM7/18/11
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My Station 589 has been tracking a Search and Rescue aircraft over the
Maryland Eastern Shore and the track is very interesting. The
aircraft (SAR 111368101) is moving at about 100 knts at an altitude of
300 m. I was not aware of AIS on aricraft. Has anyone else see
this? Is Marine Traffice aware of this?
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~Bill

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Jul 18, 2011, 5:56:16 PM7/18/11
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Civil Air Patrol
CAP1820 from the Maryland Wing
N820CP a Cessna 182T
http://marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?mmsi=111368101&centerx=-76.66813&c
entery=38.93655&zoom=10&type_color=3


Also try listening for them on [NFM]
148.1250 or 148.1250
http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Civil_Air_Patrol#New_Narrowband_Bas
ic_Channel_Plan

Bill Dunn N1KUG
Cruise Ship Frequencies
http://scanmaritime.com/

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Jul 18, 2011, 4:11:53 PM7/18/11
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I think this has been part of the AIS world for a few years, but I've never seen one in action before. Nice Catch!

http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/terrestrial/mars/forms/SAR/cm16.pdf has some more detail.

The concept makes sense, hope I never need to use it!
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Christian Steinebach

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Jul 19, 2011, 8:27:10 AM7/19/11
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Hi!

I'm using the embedded map and it works perfectly for displaying
known positions.
But is there a way to show a vessel's position by only specifying
its mmsi?
Something similar to
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?mmsi=309937000

The embedded map only shows the vessel when the position
is correct.

                 Thanks in advance
                       Christian




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camilo

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Jul 19, 2011, 1:39:15 PM7/19/11
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Why not, maybe is been transported by a passanger. Interesting.

MikeW

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Dec 30, 2011, 7:02:49 AM12/30/11
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I recieve SAR Aircraft signals regularly at Station 831, Darwin Australia, and quite frequently at up to 600-800nm along the North Australian coast with speeds to 240kts.

Regards to all and a very happy new year
MikeW

bcbounders

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May 11, 2012, 1:46:53 PM5/11/12
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I'm interested in the same thing... I'd like to embed the map in my site, but I want it to automatically center on my vessel.  It looks like I have to keep updating it with the GPS coordinates of a map center near where my vessel is in order for the embedded map to work.

Has anyone found a way to make this work?

Thanks!

 - John

Dick Frakes

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Dec 1, 2012, 12:00:15 PM12/1/12
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This is a great service and will be invaluable towards helping and saving lives. Now if we could just get all Marina's commercial and pleasure alike to broadcast we could have wall to wall coverage. I can't believe how week coverage is along the entire Gulf and Atlantic coast. I also think 100% of oil and stationary platforms should broadcast AIS positioning.  

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Hamn <rwbg...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Hi All Search And rescue Aircraft Have an MMSI Number so that they show on AIS displays for coordination purposes

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Walter Runck

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Dec 2, 2012, 7:18:11 PM12/2/12
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Not true.  It would probably be a good idea, but it is not true at this time.  At least not for the SAR aircraft I have flown on.

Walter Runck

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Dec 6, 2012, 9:30:54 PM12/6/12
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Hello Hamn,

 

Your post said that all SAR aircraft have an MMSI.  This is not true.

 

Lots of them do, but in the US (and maybe other areas) not all of them do, so you could be watching a search area using AIS through marinetraffic.com or another source and never see an aircraft position report.  AIS message type 9 is used for aircraft to report position, but equipping an aircraft with an additional VHF transceiver is not as simple as adding one to a boat.  Aircraft that are owned by governments are usually under strict configuration control and engineering changes take years to be incorporated.  Additionally, aircraft that perform law enforcement or military missions in addition to SAR generally do not broadcast their positions via AIS.

 

I think I have seen aircraft in US waters on MT; you might check aprs.fi for a particular MMSI.  Enter it in the callsign box and you may get lucky.  It requires a local ham to be monitoring AIS traffic and providing a feed to aprs.fi.  The Portland helo showed up about 9 hours ago on this site.

 

Cheers,

Walter

 

 

 

From: marine-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:marine-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hamn
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Subject: {ΜarineΤraffic:450} Re: AIS on Aircraft

 

Hi Prospero

Sorry I don’t Understand your reply, I have logged several hundred SAR Aircraft, not only within the EU but also World Wide that have MMSI numbers, as well as ACARS Numbers (ACARS is the aviation equivalent of MMSI ) this enables them to be identified on Vessel displays for Co ordination, In fact one of the other Vessel Tracking sites has the ability to display them sadly this is not used in MT unless you know the MMSI Number and how to insert it into MT 

As An Example The MMSI Number of The Portland UK SAR Helicopter Is 111232506

Regards Hamn

 

Hopefully if MTare watching This forum, 

When are we going to get back the show on map feature in  Itineraries History, Showing Correct Information

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Dick Frakes

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Mar 25, 2013, 12:24:36 PM3/25/13
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Search & rescue will have marine AIS on their aircraft to assist them when looking for a boat in distress. They want the boat in distress to see them also. This has nothing to do with AIS that aircraft use, which search and recue will also run aircraft only AIS. 

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I see the same unit from my station 1151 in Washington DC.  It lands at a couple of airports North and West of DC, and routinely flys out to the eastern shore.

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itauxcoastguard aho

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Jul 16, 2013, 2:56:41 AM7/16/13
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yes,franch sar aircraft using to ais and I'm looking, when on flight, azure colour on ship map marine traffic best regards


Il giorno lunedì 18 luglio 2011 21:46:13 UTC +2, Gsquare 589 ha scritto:
La mia stazione 589 è stato il monitoraggio di una ricerca e soccorso aereo sopra il
Maryland Eastern Shore e la pista è molto interessante. L'
aereo (SAR 111.368.101) si muove a circa 100 knts ad una altitudine di
300 m. Non ero a conoscenza di AIS su aricraft. Qualcun altro ha vedere
questo? È Traffice Marine consapevoli di questo?
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