.2C

[tomariam]

Hi Rick

I wanted to ask you if you had the time to make some additions to Version 2C, that is without the AM?

This is because I encoutered issues with the AM without having it activated such as stop losses being placed on two separate occasions.

Changes I requsted before were:

1) With server news set to true, could we have the ea freeze all trading not just once a basket is closed? This would prevent large baskets/DD from happening on existing open baskets and trading can be continued under normal trading conditions

2)  Could you also pls include Interest rate statements news releases for all pairs? Not sure this is happening for AUD and NZD, CAD?

3)  Could you also pls include Retail Sales news releases for gbp, cad, usd? Add any other pair you feel is also at risk.

4)  Is it possible to have mbc close at TP when a hedge is in place pls?

New request:

Have the ability to choose Buy/Sell Hedge for Breakout and Sliding Hedge. This would prevent getting a hedge in the wrong direction when there's a small retracement. This way by simply checking the daily chart you could select Buy or Sell Hedge at the channel/levels that is with the current trend.


Thanks again for all your hard work.

Maria

[Rick Drake]

Hello Maria,

I have not gotten sophisticated enough yet to create a version control system whereby all versions are saved in a database... I know I should but I haven't. So I cannot just make modifications to past versions.

1) Margrid can already automatically hedge a basket during a news release... which will effectively prevent existing baskets from growing until the hedge is removed.

2) It would not be difficult to include other news events. Let me know how long before and after the news event you want trading to be suspended... for each of the type of news releases.

4) If the basket is hedged... why would you want to close the entire basket? That would just lock in your losses... for situations where the hedge is larger or smaller than the basket hedged... I suppose this would make sense... but this would be a fairly complicated change. Chameleon will do this once it's done being coded. But it's taking a while... I'm unit testing each and every part of the EA... which is slowing the development down. However, it allows me to find bugs in a controlled manner during development by thoroughly testing each and every function. The result is that Chameleon should have very few bugs when it's launched. 

5) I don't suppose it would be to hard to split the HedgeBreakouts to HedgeBuyBreakouts and HedgeSellBreakouts... and similarly for the SlideHedge option.

Also... due to the nature of finding and fixing bugs... Margrid has a built in expiration date after which it will no longer open new baskets. Version 0.2C will expire at the end of September. So... if there are bugs in the newer version that prevent you from using it... let me know so I can fix it so you can have a smooth transition. Also please note... Margrid will continue to manage trades and baskets after it expires... so you won't be left high and dry. It just won't open new baskets. It will continue opening new trades until the basket closes... after which it will not open a new basket.

- Rick

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[Syed Aoun Abbas]

Hi Rick,

Regarding the expiration, can you please remove it or put it to something much higher (like 2055 or 3025 etc) as some of us would still love to experiment and hopefully earn with the current build of Margrid .... I have recently started a live account (http://www.myfxbook.com/members/syedaounabbas/part-theeta/665225) ... In case Margrid reaches the sliding hedge on one side, as I have put in the set file, the other side should give small profits to cover the swaps etc .... 

I know that expiration is there for controlling the versions but as it stands, once you release Chameleon the focus will shift to fixing the bugs (if any) on Chameleon ... plus as we all accept, you are not responsible for any losses whatsoever, even due to bugs etc as this project is the product of your imagination and hard work and distributed free of charge... so the expiration date is really not going to help much .... Your thoughts on this?

Regards,

Syed Abbas

[Maria M]

Hi Rick,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

1) What I meant with freezing trading is to have it not take any new levels either side. The risk with hedging at news releases is that you end up with a hedge or two in a position that is potentially not techically beneficial. Managing two hedges (if there are two baskets opened) that were placed in dodgy locations is a real headache and that's why I don't do it. When the news release is over Margrid will make up for the distance for new levels. This would prevent hedging in the wrong direction and large baskets forming.

2) The time for server news 3 HRs before and 12-24HR later maybe. (Give you time to check charts & decide if you should hedge).

4) What I meant is for MBC to take into consideration the profit of the hedge whilst it's hedged and close when TP is reached, thus allowing new baskets to form.

Thanks for letting me know 2C will expire soon. I did experience many losses with the AM versions, firstly with the default AM set to true, it set stop losses when I had no AM set files inserted (before I had a chance to set it to false).

Other situation: after hedge was activates and trying to change TP for the baskets (as MBC hadn't taken into consideration the profit/loss of the hedge). Again AM crept back in and set SL on your open baskets, AM hadn't been activated. I don't feel comfortable re-using the AM version on my live cents account until absolutely sure it won't interfere with the Marti. So maybe have .2C or it's revised version without an expiry?

 Thanks again

maria

By the way, for anyone interested, I've found an EA that I came across before but hadn't downloaded it. It takes trades @ trendlines/support/resistance. Place it on a separate chart, set the magic no, Buy for Blue line, Sell for REd, set SL and TP and it will activate your hedge whilst you sleep at your desired lines. That's the idea anyway, and I just started to test it today so don't know if it works yet.

Here's the link and the attachment. Hope it helps you!

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=320300

 

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Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C

[Rick Drake]

I suppose I could remove the expiration for future versions as nearly all the bugs have been worked out of Margrid, and the pesky few that remain don't seem to be to much trouble.

- Rick

[Mark Suddens]

HI Rick

Have been pushing 2G to its limits over the past 3 weeks of testing and not seen any bugs (certainly of any significance) ....Really good. The hedge bugs definatly seem to be fixed 

I am holding back on suggestions / tweaks as I know you are flat out programming chameleon.

 

Cheers Mark

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Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C

4) If the basket is hedged... why would you want to close the entire basket? That would just lock in your losses... for situations where the hedge is larger or smaller than the basket hedged... I suppose this would make sense.... but this would be a fairly complicated change. Chameleon will do this once it's done being coded. But it's taking a while... I'm unit testing each and every part of the EA... which is slowing the development down. However, it allows me to find bugs in a controlled manner during development by thoroughly testing each and every function. The result is that Chameleon should have very few bugs when it's launched. 

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[Rick Drake]

Mark,

That's excellent news.

- Rick

[dan...@danielalexander.info]

Hi Mark,

There are occasions when, depending on the technical pattern, I would like to do the following once a x2 breakout hedge is taken:
1) set trailing stop on the hedge using the same tight parameters used for levels 7+; and
2) once the hedge is stopped out, with 5 pip profit, or more if there is a suitable move trailed, have all levels of the basket close at the same time. I would set the 5 pip profit to occur 5 pips above breakeven for basket+hedge (to be calculated once breakout is taken).

Does 2G definitely accomplish this? Will it definitely close both the basket and the hedge at exactly the same time once the hedge is stopped out?

Obviously it's the same operation with wider trail stop parameters, but with wider parameters I have more time and scope to manually exit (which is what I have done on live up till now). With a tight trail stop I need to know that the hedge and all levels of the basket will close together, as there might not be time to close everything manually.

Daniel

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Subject:: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C
From: Mark Suddens <cab...@xtra.co.nz>
Date: 19 Aug 2013 20:41
To:: "margrids-b...@googlegroups.com" <margrids-b...@googlegroups.com>
CC:

HI Rick
Have been pushing 2G to its limits over the past 3 weeks of testing and not seen any bugs (certainly of any significance) ....Really good. The hedge bugs definatly seem to be fixed

I am holding back on suggestions / tweaks as I know you are flat out programming chameleon.

Cheers Mark


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From: Rick Drake <drak...@gmail.com>
To: margrids-b...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C



I suppose I could remove the expiration for future versions as nearly all the bugs have been worked out of Margrid, and the pesky few that remain don't seem to be to much trouble.

- Rick



On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Maria M <toma...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Rick,
>
>Thanks for taking the time to reply.
>
>1) What I meant with freezing trading is to have it not take any new levels either side. The risk with hedging at news releases is that you end up with a hedge or two in a position that is potentially not techically beneficial. Managing two hedges (if there are two baskets opened) that were placed in dodgy locations is a real headache and that's why I don't do it. When the news release is over Margrid will make up for the distance for new levels. This would prevent hedging in the wrong direction and large baskets forming.
>
>2) The time for server news 3 HRs before and 12-24HR later maybe. (Give you time to check charts & decide if you should hedge).
>
>4) What I meant is for MBC to take into consideration the profit of the hedge whilst it's hedged and close when TP is
reached, thus allowing new baskets to form.
>
>Thanks for letting me know 2C will expire soon. I did experience many losses with the AM versions, firstly with the default AM set to true, it set stop losses when I had no AM set files inserted (before I had a chance to set it to false).
>
>Other situation: after hedge was activates and trying to change TP for the baskets (as MBC hadn't taken into consideration the profit/loss of the hedge). Again AM crept back in and set SL on your open baskets, AM hadn't been activated. I don't feel comfortable re-using the AM version on my live cents account until absolutely sure it won't interfere with the Marti. So maybe have .2C or it's revised version without an expiry?
>
> Thanks again
>
>maria
>
>By the way, for anyone interested, I've found an EA that I came across before but hadn't downloaded it. It takes trades @ trendlines/support/resistance. Place it on a separate chart, set the
magic no, Buy for Blue line, Sell for REd, set SL and TP and it will activate your hedge whilst you sleep at your desired lines. That's the idea anyway, and I just started to test it today so don't know if it works yet.
>
>Here's the link and the attachment. Hope it helps you!
>
>http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=320300
>
>
>
>
>

>It's not the strongest of species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones who are the most responsive to change -Charles Darwin

>
>As described by the Saints and Sages that came before, this is the time for Self Realisation. Your time is now! Go to http://www.sahajayoga.com.au/level_1/meditation.shtml click on experience it now.
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Rick Drake <drak...@gmail.com>
>To: margrids-b...@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 2:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C
>
>
>
>Hello Maria,
>
>
>I have not gotten sophisticated enough yet to create a version control system whereby all versions are saved in a database... I know I should but I haven't. So I cannot just make modifications to past versions.
>
>
>1) Margrid can already automatically hedge a basket during a news release... which will effectively prevent existing baskets from growing until the hedge is removed.
>
>
>2) It would not be difficult to include other news events. Let me know how long before and after the news event you want trading to be suspended... for each of the type of news releases.
>
>

>4) If the basket is hedged... why would you want to close the entire basket? That would just lock in your losses... for situations where the hedge is larger or smaller than the basket hedged... I suppose this would make sense... but this would be a fairly complicated change. Chameleon will do this once it's done being coded. But it's taking a while... I'm unit testing each and every part of the EA... which is slowing the development down. However, it allows me to find bugs in a controlled manner during development by thoroughly testing each and every function. The result is that Chameleon should have very few bugs when it's launched.

>
>
>5) I don't suppose it would be to hard to split the HedgeBreakouts to HedgeBuyBreakouts and HedgeSellBreakouts... and similarly for the SlideHedge option.
>
>
>Also... due to the nature of finding and fixing bugs... Margrid has a built in expiration date after which it will no longer open new baskets. Version 0.2C will expire at the end of September. So... if there are bugs in the newer version that prevent you from using it... let me know so I can fix it so you can have a smooth transition. Also please note... Margrid will continue to manage trades and baskets after it expires... so you won't be left high and dry. It just won't open new baskets. It will continue opening new trades until the basket closes... after which it will not open a new basket.
>
>
>- Rick
>
>
>
>On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM, tomariam <toma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Rick
>>
>>I wanted to ask you if you had the time to make some additions to Version 2C, that is without the AM?
>>
>>This
is because I encoutered issues with the AM without having it activated
such as stop losses being placed on two separate occasions.
>>
>>Changes I requsted before were:
>>
>>1) With server news set to true, could we have the ea freeze all trading not just once a basket is
closed? This would prevent large baskets/DD from happening on existing
open baskets and trading can be continued under normal trading
conditions
>>
>>2) Could you also pls include Interest rate statements news releases for all pairs? Not sure this is happening for AUD and NZD,
CAD?
>>

>>3) Could you also pls include Retail Sales news releases for gbp, cad, usd? Add any other pair you feel is also at risk..

>>
>>4) Is it possible to have mbc close at TP when a hedge is in place pls?
>>
>>New request:
>>
>>Have
the ability to choose Buy/Sell Hedge for Breakout and Sliding Hedge.
This would prevent getting a hedge in the wrong direction when there's a
small retracement. This way by simply checking the daily chart you
could select Buy or Sell Hedge at the channel/levels that is with the
current trend.
>>
>>
>>Thanks again for all your hard work.
>>
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[Mark Suddens]

Daniel

2G only closes the whole basket if the hedge profit when closed + current basket profit/loss is >  the  new basket TP.

One of thee things I would have on a suggestions list for margrid is a TS for the whole basket (including hedges). But really this is something in principal that should be more easily done in chameleon.

For example in chameleon, if you have AM switching on at a given level, and the trend continues (against the original M basket), then you have a mix of buys and sells in a basket. and as the AM side adds more levels the basket goes into overall profit, then a TS could be added to the whole basket. (Rick I haven't checked in with you on this so I hope I am not being presumptuous? 

I have been experimenting with a 10 level (double up per level), martingale progression (similar to what you were experimenting with) but using similar aggressive hedging as per my previous sets, and incorporating very tight initial hedge stops.

Very exciting, but it is a bit of a balancing act as using only very small retraces means commission really cuts into profitability. - Still work in progress....

 

Cheers Mark

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From: "dan...@danielalexander.info" <dan...@danielalexander.info>
To: cab...@xtra.co.nz
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C

Hi Mark,

There are occasions when, depending on the technical pattern, I would like to do the following once a x2 breakout hedge is taken:
1) set trailing stop on the hedge using the same tight parameters used for levels 7+; and
2) once the hedge is stopped out, with 5 pip profit, or more if there is a suitable move trailed, have all levels of the basket close at the same time. I would set the 5 pip profit to occur 5 pips above breakeven for basket+hedge (to be calculated once breakout is taken).

Does 2G definitely accomplish this? Will it definitely close both the basket and the hedge at exactly the same time once the hedge is stopped out?

Obviously it's the same operation with wider trail stop parameters, but with wider parameters I have more time and scope to manually exit (which is what I have done on live up till now). With a tight trail stop I need to know that the hedge and all levels of the basket will close together, as there might not be time to close everything manually.

Daniel




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Subject:: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] ..2C
From: Mark Suddens <cab...@xtra.co.nz>
Date: 19 Aug 2013 20:41
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HI Rick
Have been pushing 2G to its limits over the past 3 weeks of testing and not seen any bugs (certainly of any significance) ....Really good. The hedge bugs definatly seem to be fixed
I am holding back on suggestions / tweaks as I know you are flat out programming chameleon.

Cheers Mark


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HI Daniel

Dont know why but I received 6 copies of this email?

 

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[dan...@danielalexander.info]

 

Right, sorry!

 

My email kept coming back with a "send error"....seems that message was itself the error and the email did work every time.

 

Thanks for clarifying the logic on basket+hedge trade. Sounds like I might be better waiting for Chameleon so that the issue of hedge+basket closure can be more easily addressed.

 

Your experiments sound great....I also have been wondering about decreasing the time frame, and trading say a 15minute range, with breakouts either side. I have a friend in Italy who is demoing this kind of strategy this week. Would be a more intense experience...certainly!

 

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Mark,

What you described is exactly what I'm aiming for.

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Cool

Are you also thinking of the progressive closing of AM levels (at BE or slight profit to cover costs) on a re-trace?

 

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Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C

magic no, Buy for Blue line, Sell for REd, set SL and TP and it will activate your hedge whilst you sleep at your desired lines. That's the idea anyway, and I just started to test it today so don't know if it works yet..

>
>Here's the link and the attachment. Hope it helps you!
>
>http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=320300
>
>
>
>
>

>It's not the strongest of species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones who are the most responsive to change -Charles Darwin

>
>As described by the Saints and Sages that came before, this is the time for Self Realisation. Your time is now! Go to http://www.sahajayoga.com.au/level_1/meditation.shtml click on experience it now.
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Rick Drake <drak...@gmail.com>
>To: margrids-b...@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 2:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C
>
>
>
>Hello Maria,
>
>
>I have not gotten sophisticated enough yet to create a version control system whereby all versions are saved in a database... I know I should but I haven't. So I cannot just make modifications to past versions.
>
>
>1) Margrid can already automatically hedge a basket during a news release... which will effectively prevent existing baskets from growing until the hedge is removed.
>
>
>2) It would not be difficult to include other news events. Let me know how long before and after the news event you want trading to be suspended... for each of the type of news releases.
>
>

>4) If the basket is hedged... why would you want to close the entire basket? That would just lock in your losses... for situations where the hedge is larger or smaller than the basket hedged... I suppose this would make sense... but this would be a fairly complicated change. Chameleon will do this once it's done being coded. But it's taking a while... I'm unit testing each and every part of the EA... which is slowing the development down. However, it allows me to find bugs in a controlled manner during development by thoroughly testing each and every function. The result is that Chameleon should have very few bugs when it's launched.

>
>
>5) I don't suppose it would be to hard to split the HedgeBreakouts to HedgeBuyBreakouts and HedgeSellBreakouts... and similarly for the SlideHedge option.
>
>

>Also... due to the nature of finding and fixing bugs... Margrid has a built in expiration date after which it will no longer open new baskets. Version 0.2C will expire at the end of September. So.... if there are bugs in the newer version that prevent you from using it.... let me know so I can fix it so you can have a smooth transition. Also please note... Margrid will continue to manage trades and baskets after it expires... so you won't be left high and dry. It just won't open new baskets. It will continue opening new trades until the basket closes... after which it will not open a new basket.

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[Rick Drake]

Yep... that was the plan. The Anti Martingale trades will have their stops moved up to lock in a profit... but the stops will all be individual. That way, if a retrace happens... the Anti Martingale trades will unwind, with their profits moving the break even point of the basket. Also, if the Anti Martingale trades compensate for the losses of the Martingale during a strong trend... A stop for the entire basket will be activated.

- Rick

[Esteban Echevarria]

Hi Rick and everyone, Rick Im copying what Maria wrote on his last post cause I personally think Its important to have, she and me personally think of MBC as a long term trading EA with huge pipspan and low retracements, we dont aim for the crazy 25% monthly some people are willing, our aim is more like 2-4% monthly, without using any AM nor BO hedges based on donchain channels but Hedging according to a trending annalysis based on S&R + trendlines (This is done manually on a daily chart basis)

 so its important for us you have a look to this she wrote in spetial point number 1) wich is not Hedge is something different...

Thanks you so much for your tremendous work so far, Im willing to have the chamaleon on my backtesting software to test, but so far Im ok with 2.0C (IMO best version for just grid trading with antimartingale features)

[Mark Suddens]

Brilliant

So sort of 3 stages....

1) Martingale does its thing within a range

2) On moving out of the range AM trades are added to the basket...These can be continuously opened and unwound individually as required if market moves around the range boundary

3) When market decides on direction, and basket as a whole moves into profit, (either by all AM trades being unwound or more AM trades being added) then basket TS added.

I guess the art will be in managing a market fluctuating around the Martingale boundary - without adding too much to the baskets running loss total.

 

Cheers Mark

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Yep... that was the plan. The Anti Martingale trades will have their stops moved up to lock in a profit... but the stops will all be individual. That way, if a retrace happens... the Anti Martingale trades will unwind, with their profits moving the break even point of the basket. Also, if the Anti Martingale trades compensate for the losses of the Martingale during a strong trend.... A stop for the entire basket will be activated.

- Rick

>I have not gotten sophisticated enough yet to create a version control system whereby all versions are saved in a database.... I know I should but I haven't. So I cannot just make modifications to past versions.

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[Rick Drake]

You got it. One thing I was thinking about... was the situation where an Anti Martingale trade hit it's stop, and then the price continued. Let's say a level 10 AM trade. Well... I wouldn't add another trade until it was time to open up a level 11 trade. Then it would add the level 10 plus level 11 trades all at once. If that new trade get's it's stop hit... then when it's time to open up a level 12 AM trade... it will include volumes from level 10, 11, and 12. If it hit's the 12 stop... then the whole thing is hedged for 24 or 36 hours or whatever... I'm thinking that would break up a bad situation where the price was simply oscillating around the transition from Martingale to Anti Martingale. What do you guys think? 

- Rick

[Mark Suddens]

HI Rick

Got a couple of ideas here but just need a day or two to work through a few scenarios and explain them well!!

Meanwhile here is link to Ultra hedge demo just started

set file attached - use on 2G

This is not meant to be set and forget - and will probably crash as I do not intent to get up at night as there is no money on the line

Intervention strategy is to run AM set alongside maxout hedges and unhedged maxed baskets

I am making it public for information purposes

 

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cabash/ultra-hedge-3/668929

Cheers Mark

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Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013 1:56 PM
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You got it. One thing I was thinking about... was the situation where an Anti Martingale trade hit it's stop, and then the price continued. Let's say a level 10 AM trade. Well... I wouldn't add another trade until it was time to open up a level 11 trade. Then it would add the level 10 plus level 11 trades all at once. If that new trade get's it's stop hit... then when it's time to open up a level 12 AM trade.... it will include volumes from level 10, 11, and 12. If it hit's the 12 stop... then the whole thing is hedged for 24 or 36 hours or whatever... I'm thinking that would break up a bad situation where the price was simply oscillating around the transition from Martingale to Anti Martingale. What do you guys think? 

- Rick

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[Rick Drake]

Should be interesting to see how it performs. Thanks for sharing this.

- Rick

[Mark Suddens]

Well its partly a bit of fun, but might also show the power of this type of approach...

I have been using last 4 1/2 months live account brokers data to do backtesting (which keeps a backtest run to about 5 or 6 hours) and have several ranges settings for this type of strategy that survive this period based on using a spread which is the 'average' brokers spread.....

I will post a few backtests

but of course backtest survivability is really only a starting point.

 

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Should be interesting to see how it performs. Thanks for sharing this.

- Rick

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Mark Suddens <cab...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

HI Rick

Got a couple of ideas here but just need a day or two to work through a few scenarios and explain them well!!

Meanwhile here is link to Ultra hedge demo just started

set file attached - use on 2G

This is not meant to be set and forget - and will probably crash as I do not intent to get up at night as there is no money on the line

Intervention strategy is to run AM set alongside maxout hedges and unhedged maxed baskets

I am making it public for information purposes

 

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cabash/ultra-hedge-3/668929

Cheers Mark

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Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C

You got it. One thing I was thinking about... was the situation where an Anti Martingale trade hit it's stop, and then the price continued. Let's say a level 10 AM trade. Well... I wouldn't add another trade until it was time to open up a level 11 trade. Then it would add the level 10 plus level 11 trades all at once. If that new trade get's it's stop hit... then when it's time to open up a level 12 AM trade.... it will include volumes from level 10, 11, and 12. If it hit's the 12 stop... then the whole thing is hedged for 24 or 36 hours or whatever.... I'm thinking that would break up a bad situation where the price was simply oscillating around the transition from Martingale to Anti Martingale. What do you guys think? 

- Rick

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From: "dan...@danielalexander.info" <dan...@danielalexander.info>
To: cabash@xtra..co.nz

>>3)  Could you also pls include Retail Sales news releases for gbp, cad, usd? Add any other pair you feel is also at risk...

>>
>>4)  Is it possible to have mbc close at TP when a hedge is in place pls?
>>
>>New request:
>>
>>Have
the ability to choose Buy/Sell Hedge for Breakout and Sliding Hedge.
This would prevent getting a hedge in the wrong direction when there's a
small retracement. This way by simply checking the daily chart you
could select Buy or Sell Hedge at the channel/levels that is with the
current trend.
>>
>>
>>Thanks again for all your hard work.
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[dan...@danielalexander.info]

 

Sometimes fun leads to something more serious....

 

Are you using a 30 minute time frame (for breakouts) on this one as well, Mark?

 

Daniel

 

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[Mark Suddens]

Yep

But it really does not matter what timeframe you use...

for 5 min just multiply channel periods x6 etc.

Makes no difference to the way it trades, just effects what chart you like looking at, any technical based intervention

 

Cheers Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C

http://www..myfxbook.com/members/cabash/ultra-hedge-3/668929

Cheers Mark

>Also... due to the nature of finding and fixing bugs... Margrid has a built in expiration date after which it will no longer open new baskets. Version 0.2C will expire at the end of September. So..... if there are bugs in the newer version that prevent you from using it..... let me know so I can fix it so you can have a smooth transition. Also please note... Margrid will continue to manage trades and baskets after it expires... so you won't be left high and dry. It just won't open new baskets.. It will continue opening new trades until the basket closes... after which it will not open a new basket.

[Mark Suddens]

I am pretty serious 

Have been in and out a few times on live account.

I soon realised on a live account, a 1 pip TP retrace can get killed by commission, if you are frequently opening and closing large hedges.

On the first setfiles I used a very aggressive TS on the x2 hedges, but profit just got drained.

Now on the setfile that I have on this demo I have gone back to a channel only controlled SL @ 10 period (on 30min chart) - BTests OK

I am now testing an updated set where I have added and extra L11 sliding hedge, just to catch big reversals - will see how it goes....

 

Cheers Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C

Brilliant

So sort of 3 stages.....

>Also... due to the nature of finding and fixing bugs... Margrid has a built in expiration date after which it will no longer open new baskets. Version 0.2C will expire at the end of September. So..... if there are bugs in the newer version that prevent you from using it..... let me know so I can fix it so you can have a smooth transition. Also please note... Margrid will continue to manage trades and baskets after it expires... so you won't be left high and dry. It just won't open new baskets.. It will continue opening new trades until the basket closes... after which it will not open a new basket.

[Eogorfx]

TK for sharing your info. Mark

Ed

<ultra hedge 3.set>

[Mark Suddens]

No worries.

Just updated set file on demo to Ultra Hedge 4 (attached)

exactly the same but has an extra level added to incorporate a sliding hedge stage

 

Cheers Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C

TK for sharing your info. Mark

Ed

On 20 Aug 2013, at 23:32, Mark Suddens <cab...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

HI Rick

Got a couple of ideas here but just need a day or two to work through a few scenarios and explain them well!!

Meanwhile here is link to Ultra hedge demo just started

set file attached - use on 2G

This is not meant to be set and forget - and will probably crash as I do not intent to get up at night as there is no money on the line

Intervention strategy is to run AM set alongside maxout hedges and unhedged maxed baskets

I am making it public for information purposes

 

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/cabash/ultra-hedge-3/668929

Cheers Mark

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From: Rick Drake <drak...@gmail.com>
To: margrids-b...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C

You got it. One thing I was thinking about... was the situation where an Anti Martingale trade hit it's stop, and then the price continued. Let's say a level 10 AM trade. Well... I wouldn't add another trade until it was time to open up a level 11 trade. Then it would add the level 10 plus level 11 trades all at once. If that new trade get's it's stop hit... then when it's time to open up a level 12 AM trade.... it will include volumes from level 10, 11, and 12. If it hit's the 12 stop... then the whole thing is hedged for 24 or 36 hours or whatever... I'm thinking that would break up a bad situation where the price was simply oscillating around the transition from Martingale to Anti Martingale. What do you guys think? 

- Rick

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Mark Suddens <cab...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Brilliant

So sort of 3 stages.....

1) Martingale does its thing within a range

2) On moving out of the range AM trades are added to the basket...These can be continuously opened and unwound individually as required if market moves around the range boundary

3) When market decides on direction, and basket as a whole moves into profit, (either by all AM trades being unwound or more AM trades being added) then basket TS added.

I guess the art will be in managing a market fluctuating around the Martingale boundary - without adding too much to the baskets running loss total.

 

Cheers Mark

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To: margrids-b...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C

Yep... that was the plan. The Anti Martingale trades will have their stops moved up to lock in a profit... but the stops will all be individual. That way, if a retrace happens... the Anti Martingale trades will unwind, with their profits moving the break even point of the basket.. Also, if the Anti Martingale trades compensate for the losses of the Martingale during a strong trend.... A stop for the entire basket will be activated.

- Rick

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mark Suddens <cab...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Cool

Are you also thinking of the progressive closing of AM levels (at BE or slight profit to cover costs) on a re-trace?

 

Cheers Mark

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Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [margrids-battle-chest] .2C

Mark,

What you described is exactly what I'm aiming for.

- Rick

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Mark Suddens <cab...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Daniel

2G only closes the whole basket if the hedge profit when closed + current basket profit/loss is >  the  new basket TP.

One of thee things I would have on a suggestions list for margrid is a TS for the whole basket (including hedges). But really this is something in principal that should be more easily done in chameleon..

For example in chameleon, if you have AM switching on at a given level, and the trend continues (against the original M basket), then you have a mix of buys and sells in a basket. and as the AM side adds more levels the basket goes into overall profit, then a TS could be added to the whole basket. (Rick I haven't checked in with you on this so I hope I am not being presumptuous? 

I have been experimenting with a 10 level (double up per level), martingale progression (similar to what you were experimenting with) but using similar aggressive hedging as per my previous sets, and incorporating very tight initial hedge stops.

Very exciting, but it is a bit of a balancing act as using only very small retraces means commission really cuts into profitability. - Still work in progress....

 

Cheers Mark

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>
>
>5) I don't suppose it would be to hard to split the HedgeBreakouts to HedgeBuyBreakouts and HedgeSellBreakouts.... and similarly for the SlideHedge option.
>
>

>Also... due to the nature of finding and fixing bugs... Margrid has a built in expiration date after which it will no longer open new baskets. Version 0.2C will expire at the end of September. So.... if there are bugs in the newer version that prevent you from using it.... let me know so I can fix it so you can have a smooth transition. Also please note... Margrid will continue to manage trades and baskets after it expires... so you won't be left high and dry. It just won't open new baskets. It will continue opening new trades until the basket closes... after which it will not open a new basket..

>
>
>- Rick
>
>
>
>On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM, tomariam <toma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Rick
>>
>>I wanted to ask you if you had the time to make some additions to Version 2C, that is without the AM?
>>
>>This
is because I encoutered issues with the AM without having it activated
such as stop losses being placed on two separate occasions.
>>
>>Changes I requsted before were:
>>
>>1) With server news set to true, could we have the ea freeze all trading not just once a basket is
closed? This would prevent large baskets/DD from happening on existing
open baskets and trading can be continued under normal trading
conditions
>>
>>2)  Could you also pls include Interest rate statements news releases for all pairs? Not sure this is happening for AUD and NZD,
CAD?
>>

>>3)  Could you also pls include Retail Sales news releases for gbp, cad, usd? Add any other pair you feel is also at risk...

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[dan...@danielalexander.info]

Great work, Mark, thanks.

 

I wonder whether ultra could be used discretely on pairs offering good breakout levels.

 

For example, EUR/CHF right now is in the middle of a 30-40 point range which has lasted approx. 36 hours. You can get comfortable taking a breakout if you need to, but you likely remain inside the range for the next 2-3 hours of trading and then switch off. It's also moving enough to provide sufficient TP3's.

 

My only worry with the sliding hedge is that if you enter a x2 slide which immediately reverses, you start with 6%DD and you add 1% of DD for each pip of reverse, which is a lot of risk (using 0.01 start, and 5K balance). That said I did run your demo through the night last night, caught an amazing trail worth 10%, and made 13% total....:)

 

Regards

Daniel 

 

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[Mark Suddens]

HI Daniel

It all depends on the level of manual / technical trading vs automated trading a person want to engage in...

I personally don't want another job and want a strategy which I can essentially let run on auto, but have a few trading plan 'rules' for intervention as required maybe once or twice a month.

If your trading plan is to analyse charts and pick opportunities as you see them thats great

The latest set files using a 3 pip EP and TP require a ECN low spread broker (and to trade on one of the majors) to be profitable.

My basic plan here is to have a very high gain system, and withdraw profits 

Using the L10 3EP x2 Martingale progression will maybe last a day by its self. With all the hedging added maybe 2 or 3 weeks without intervention (keeping DD in comfortable levels).

Addition of the sliding hedge, just gives another opportunity to use AM sets to close out a basket that has started ratchet up carried over losses. 

 

Cheers Mark

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[dan...@danielalexander.info]

Hi Mark

 

I also would prefer a minimal intervention strategy....so far this is looking good.

 

The only thing to watch for is the following price action which could happen at any time:

1) Price moves down with small retrace (level 7-8 buy cleared)

2) Price moves down again with sufficient retrace (again say around level 8)

3) Price moves down even further and triggers the x2 slide hedge. The stop for the hedge will now be at least 50 points north, could even be 70-80 points north....the downmove having taken just 1-2 hours. DD is 6% and risk is 1% per pip, ie 70-80% risk.

4) You're unlucky and price moves up 70-80 points over the next 2 hours causing around 75% DD.

 

All other hedges create acceptable DD or profitable exits....it's just these hedges with distant stops that are the problem. Perhaps we could introduce an equity protection so that all trades are closed at say 30% DD, just as protection from this one Achilles' heel? Or another parameter in MBC that would make the initial hedge stop be a maximum of 30 points away from price? I suppose on the latter you can't just put in 0/30 in level 1 of TS....and then go back 10 bars....guess not

 

The other question is whether simply to exit all baskets at a max level 10. My demo has run 48 hours on USD/JPY, and is up 20% with minimal DD. I've only had ONE level 10 so far, which if exited would only have created just 3.66%DD ..... moreover I now have profits able to pay for at least another 5 max baskets. My previous attempts with exiting max baskets have all failed, but perhaps this is one that could really work.

 

Best regards

[Maria M]

Hi Rick

I've gone back to using 2G on the demos and on my first hedge I've had mbc close the whole basket at loss just after I turned the freeze_buy  to false. (It had taken a hedge, closed it then closed the entire basket at loss) so there's still a bug with it.

For us that are using mbc on our little live cents account and as September is right around the corner, if I could ask you to please remove the expiry for vers 2C and re-post. This way you can continue at your own pace to develop the chameleon as I don't see myself using the Marti and AM versions on the live accounts until then and will have to chicken out all trades.

Many Thanks

Maria

 

It's not the strongest of species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones who are the most responsive to change - Charles Darwin

[Rick Drake]

Maria,

Could you send me the metatrader statement, as well as the settings?

Unfortunately I cannot just remove the expiry from vers 2C... as I don't have a version control system in place that would allow me to roll back to a previous version... The best I could do is to look at my notes, see what I did... and manually change it back and hope that takes care of the problem.

- Rick

[Rick Drake]

Maria,

So you froze the basket? And then when you turned the freeze_buy to false, it closed out all your open trades? Just out of curiosity... what magic numbers are you using for the hedge and for the regular basket?

- Rick

[Maria M]

Hi Rick

Thanks for the response, just looked at my history, there's no issues with the magic no as they are all correct ( I do use separate magic for the hedge). I just realised something as I'm testing this last version with various hedging methods including the line trader which enters with a magic, I had made a profit earlier on a hedge taken with this method. Thus explaining the loss, which in fact the basket was in overall profit.

So no need to worry for the time being.

 

It's not the strongest of species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones who are the most responsive to change - Charles Darwin

 

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[Rick Drake]

That would do it.

- Rick