Pioneer Slim Sub

[Tina Popielarczyk]

PioneerMonolayer gives you AAA* certified jeans in monolayer fabric design,

as the name suggests, for a cool and comfortable wearing experience on a hot day.

The design is based on a special weaving process that combines denim fabric with XTM-Fiber.

In combination with the knee and hip protectors, this will protect you from anything you might encounter on the road.

Pioneer Monolayer has a slim-fit classical five-pocket design in an authentic denim look.

Details such as eyelets to attach gloves or a pouch for small change or keys as well as stretch

fabric give you an extremely comfortable wearing experience.

Expanding its catalog of precision-engineered two-channel offerings, Pioneer Home Entertainment announced its new SX-S30 Slim Stereo Network Receiver. Offering a wealth of connectivity options, the SX-S30 packs high-res sound and functionality into a slim, compact receiver that fits almost anywhere.

Ideal for those with limited space or who are unable to alter their interior spaces, the ELITE SX-S30 outputs 85W/ch (4 ohms, 1 kHz, THD 1.0 %, 1ch Driven) and features Class D amplification for its power section. The unit supports a variety of formats including MP3, AAC, AIFF, Apple Lossless, FLAC, and WAV to a maximum 192 kHz/24-bit and 2.8 MHz/5.6 MHz DSD hi-res Audio files. This is great for anyone wanting to stream a multitude of audio formats from their wireless or networked devices.

Pioneer Remote App facilitates streaming of any audio stored onsmartphones, PCs, and media servers. With Spotify Connect and TuneInbuilt into the GUI, access to almost any music or internet radioprogramming is easy through the app, or navigate content through the TVdisplay.

While the SX-S30 may be light on amplifier power, it's heavy on connectivity features making it the centerpiece of a nice modern two-channel audio system. This includes an integrated FM tuner (antenna included) with 40memory pre-sets. The RDS function displays song and program information.

The Pioneer ELITE SX-S30 Two-Channel Network Receiver is now available for an SRP of $500 (USD) and $729 (CAD). It's too bad the SX-S30 doesn't include preamp outputs for those that may need more power and want to use it for preamp duties only. Perhaps future iterations of this model will offer that feature. But, for now, the SX-S30 should serve well to power a modest system in a small office or den.

The question does remain however, will consumers be more drawn to the networking features of this model or would they rather get a basic stereo receiver like the HK 3490 and simply connect a streaming device to it? Let us know what you think in the related forum thread below.

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I have a 12k unit at a lake house thats been running flawlessly for 2 years. They are like every other off brand and just rebadged Mideas with Toshiba compressors. I would spend a little more and get a Midea Premier series that has full heat output to 5. Gree also has some better units.

You can get more information at the below link. The higher 22 seer pioneer units do have basepan heaters and better cold weather performance. I attached the performance charts for both. The 17 seer is almost worthless for any heating capability in cold weather and has no basepan heater.

Midea pretty much makes the majority of mini splits out there. They are the largest refrigeration compant in the world. If you dig into the service manuals, installation manuals, and cross reference stuff its all made by Midea and they have GMCC Toshiba compressors. My Midea came in a Carrier North America box with Midea stickers that you put on yourself.

I bought my Midea Premier floor console hyper heat from minisplit warehouse. I cross referenced my floor console unit and it is identical to Daikin, Gree, Carrier, Blueridge, etc. The literature is all exactly the same with just a different brand on it. It appears Midea is pretty much making them or they are all using the exact same design.

A dubious assertion, despite having become the world's largest air conditioning manufacturer. Gree is also huge (at one time the largest AC manufacturer in China), and OEMs their equipment to a number of different labels. Over the past decade there have also been a lot of Fujitsu components inside a lot of other mini-split brands.

>"If you dig into the service manuals, installation manuals, and cross reference stuff its all made by Midea and they have GMCC Toshiba compressors. My Midea came in a Carrier North America box with Midea stickers that you put on yourself."

Midea got into bed with Toshiba a couple of decades ago in a joint venture with Toshiba building a large refrigeration compressor factory in China. United Technologies/Carrier only got into bed with Midea/Toshiba about a decade ago. Unfortunately Carrier doesn't import/support the full complement of Midea mini-split equipment in the US market. Midea USA distributes some of the non-Carrier equipment via internet sales, but local support for Midea-branded mini-splits seems spotty at best.

Either way, Midea is clearly a first-tier Chinese manufacturer of this kind of equipment, but far from the ONLY first tier Chinese manufacturer of heat pump equipment, unless Gree has turned into a Midea-only show. I understand that starting several years ago Korea's Samsung minisplits became OEMed Midea units, but not LG.

Midea is far more than a refrigeration equipment company- it's a major conglomerate with a wide range of consumer & household goods from dishwashers to blenders and a wide range of small appliances. Even Midea USA has some of the home appliance/small appliance equipment listed on their website:

The Premier series cold climate equipment looks very good on paper, and should live up to those specs. With proper installation it's reasonable to expect them to have comparable longevity to the large Japanese manufacturers' mini-splits. The only thing you're giving up for the lower internet price point is the support network.

So what are your thoughts Dana on why every manufacturer seems to be using pretty much the same equipment? Outside of Mitsubishi if you google the 12k floor console units for example they are all literally the same exact unit? Is one factory making them all?

We have Fujitsu ducted mini splits specified for our house build - I spoke with an HVAC contractor to get a quote yesterday and he was really impressed with Mitsubishi yet he was willing to price out the Fujitsu units... makes trying to make decisions about the units difficult - or at least it feels like we don't have all the information needed for the decision...

I was pretty much in your exact postion and wanted a decent priced cold climate unit. I went with a Gree Sapphire and Midea Premier after spending hours researching. If you sort mini splits in the AHRI directory by efficiency Midea and Gree actually dominate the top of the list ahead of most of the big names.

I assume you are self installing? These things are actually quite simple to install. The downfall is limited warranty and support but the savings are massive. When I did the math I could buy 3 Midea Premiers compared to the cost of a professional Mitsubishi install. So even if this one fails I can still buy another 2 before I break even compared to a professional install.

I would look at the Midea Premier dlcsrah24aak. It looks to be around $1500 shipped. Its rated 100 percent heat at 5 and 79 percent at -22. I have the 12k unit and its has been a solid cold weather performer.

This thread highlights several things but one thing seems likely, mini splits will not catch on here in sufficient numbers to become a significant factor in reducing U. S. carbon emissions unless and until they become cheap ubiquitous appliances that can be acquired for under $1,000 and installed by any reasonably handy homeowner just like any window unit. Just like in Asia. $5,000 single head installs and $10,000+ multi head installs limit the retrofit applicability dramatically, particularly since the long term ( i.e, more than ten years) reliability of these units is somewhat questionable even when installed by a pro.

First thing you have to understand is that the generic AC contractor hears the question " I want you to put AC in my house, and the answer is

'$10,000'

no matter what you choose. Until they start viewing minisplit installs as cost plus, they will not be popular.

Question: Has anyone retrofitted a base pan heater onto an existing unit? I suspect something as simple as a pipe heating wire could provide the same effect as a base pan heater in not so extreme cold.

I have a daikin 36k btu system & I hate it. the installer didn't size it right. It uses alot of energy in the winter. It has leaked out all the coolant, didn't have a base pan heater, & daikin won't stand behind their product.

Since it didn't keep my large main room warm, I had a single 18k pioneer system installed which works great and is trouble free.

Both units are rated for minus 13.

Pioneer is made in USA and are a very good product ... I've seen two installed and was impressed with the performance and ended up buying one myself. If you have a furnace, I would still consider one as a supplement that will cut furnace use and costs overall. We figure it will pay for itself in about three years with the savings. Good support from the company, including email and even chat.

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