Refund versus return

[Chris L]

Hello folks,

I promised I would keep everyone posted on any updates.  With the latest email coming out of j4f I have opted for a return of principle versus a refund.  I believe that is what it is called when you get the initial deposit and can stay in the club in hopes of receiving grant money.

I know there are lots of naysayers in this group and I can understand why as it has been many many years of failed promises.  I have tried to stay positive and not speak ill of Harold.

There are personal reasons why I needed to request the refund almost a year ago and don't feel comfortable sharing why.

I do hope we will get our principle returned shortly and the grant process started within the year.

Lets keep our negative words to a minimum as Harold has not been quick to put dates on his emails and seeing what just came out gives hope on a finishing line.

Thanks,

Chris

[Randy Jennings]

🙏💲💰🙏

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[Ed]

I have been  trying to warn folks that Harold is a lying snake serpent  no refunds or grants will come next month are ever, this snake harold has been telling these lies for over 20 years why would now be any different. 

This snake serpent Harold needs to be in a prison cell for outright theft of over a million dollars ,  and he's currently living off these funds he has stolen. This snake serpent cannot ever be trusted, and I will be doing everything in my power to put this snake serpent into cell block 21 for the rest of his lying life.

His last email is just another trick to buy more time because he knows his lying scamming ways are about to end  

Please don't lay around thinking this lying snake serpent is going to refund you, let's immediately go ahead and get his assets frozen and then put this snake serpent behind bars where he belongs 

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[Harold Sides]

Thank you Chris

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[Randy Jennings]

Send a private email to Mr Sides to find out the amount of grant coming to you and make chang in your life with the money in March

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[raymond phillips]

Do we have to send private emails and choose refund over return?? Or can we just let everything just play out?

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[Randy Jennings]

Only if you asked for a refund and want to change it back to get principal and grant 

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[Harold Sides]

that applies only to those who sent in a refund request. you have no needed action to be eligible fo the grant

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[Ed]

Folks do not continue to be so naive after 20 plus years of harold lies, mark my word once next month comes there will be no refunds or grants issued, it's just another way for this scamming lying snake harold to slider his way into buying himself more time because he knows his scamming days are coming to a end.

Have you asked Harold lately whatever happened to all your Dinar he has stolen?     

Folks it's now past time to freeze this snake's assets and put him in cell block 1 where he belongs. 

Let's not let this snake harold to continue living off your funds he has stolen from you

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[Thomas Puccerella]

I know that its hard to believe .  What choice do we have?  I just went over all my paperwork from 2008 til now, im sure I could of gone back ferther but I saw what I needed to see. HS has promised to return our money several times and this time ther isnt anything 

(world issues) holding him back.

So now we will see if he's really going to return our principle and then get us the grants. I"m not sure why we need to wait until the end of the year but if there is 500 members and he is doing "all the work" that would explain that. If we dont get this soon I'll give up. I'll ask for a refund too. has anybody else said anything like this? I"m sure I'm not the only one that feels like this, a friend who is also in has said he would like to turn this over to the FBI, (I talked him out of that for now}.

[Randy Jennings]

Has Mr Sides started  yet it's March 🙏🤔

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[Chris L]

Hi Randy,

Nothing on my end but hey, with the Canadian dollar drowning and the tariffs being implemented it sure will come in handy. 

Canadian

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Chris

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[Stephen Edwards]

We were  [ so it was said ] on track to get our deposits back last June ,, from memory it was said that some deposits have already been sent ,,, BUT then came a surgery and the longest rehab ever ,, so we are now  forward 9 months .with no excuses , they have all been used many times over and over !!!.. so it should be a matter of  picking up from last June .. as was promised .then  of deposit returns  [ not the first time those wild promises have been made though } ... Then the latest promise ..is by the end of March .. as we are nearly half way through that now ,,, with no update thus far ...i wait with baited breath ...but after 20+ years of false promises I  think I know the outcome  ....

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