Any new intel?

[John Young]

Hello, 

Is there any new Intel? I also foolishly sent currency to Harold. I would really like a currency exchange contact if anybody has one.

[Brett Schulman]

He took all of ours and nobody wants to help ,everyone is quite and his Wife will not answer the phone. 

On Mon, Nov 17, 2025, 2:04 PM John Young <jryou...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, 

Is there any new Intel? I also foolishly sent currency to Harold. I would really like a currency exchange contact if anybody has one.

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[Stephen Edwards]

Seems like normal again lol .. no updates etc ... james came on a month ago with a big story about Harold being honest and dont annoy the family or take any legal action etc .. and now have not heard a word from him..... I wonder if he was just trying to take the heat from them ? who ever James is .... he did not post anything until legal action was talked about .. ., then came on with a long winded story ..  now gone back into a hole .. just like harold would do .. post about how all is good etc and back into hiding ...  so James either give us an update or we will go back to what we were discussing a month ago ... but we want more than words we need action !

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[Ned Brown]

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[Robert Nilla]

in my opinion the money lost will very difficult to recover considering the lack of transparency what and who we were investing out money to!!  if any funds are recovered we can give thanks for al least getting our original principle returned!!   I'm not see it..  good luck trying to prosecute the people who took the funds!!

[Brett Schulman]

Yeah it's not looking good , I sent James a letter that Harold sent me 5 years ago saying he was going to send me my Principal of $18,150 back because I had Cancer and was having surgery, I needed the funds for my deposit of $25k - It ended up costing over a million dollars for my surgery and put us in depth forever.Harold was a 100 percent CON Artist no matter what anyone says to me .He lied over and over again.With Interest and payments financially we were devastated. I would just be Happy if he would respond to my emails , let's hope he is real and does a monthly update at least or we will all know he is trying to boost his ego for no reason.We all deserve the real answers , I don't believe Harold was a good person at all - He spent all our hard earned money on his Family and most likely sent Money to his Son to invest! Someone prove me wrong and I'll apologize until then we know what time it is ! 

Brett 

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[James Griffin]

Stephen, so you think I'm fake, you have my full name and photo. I gave the reasons why taking legal action is pointless. I did not even know this group existed, I subscribed the same day that I posted. You have twisted everything I said. I would advise you to read my posts again. I do not have an obligation do what I intend to do.  No funds are in place as of yet. I also do not have access to the J4F database. There was nothing to update since I last posted. Without access to the database i will not be able to fund anyone outside of 20 or so trusted friends.  There is still hope that I can get access. If I do I will post it here.

[James Griffin]

I did not see any email from you. I did a search, nothing showed up. There were no emails to respond to.

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[John Young]

Hello James,

In your post a couple weeks ago, you said those who sent currency to Harold will be funded. Can you please elaborate on that with what you know? Who did he send it to? Who is RBW Intake Screener: Kirk koskella? 

[Stephen Edwards]

James .. for over 20 years we have had Harold Lie to us ..and make false promises year in year out .. people begged for their deposit back which Harold always said just ask and i will send your deposit back but  they never got their money and some where in very difficult financial positions ..  but were ignored .. frustration of 20 plus years of promises takes its toll .. so the last thing the members need is more of the same .. Harold was terrible at giving updates ,, we dont wont to go down that road again ..you just said you had not gained access to the J4F data base yet ...for reasons of  ? ..that is an update ... .I agree that taking legal action is not the best action to take ,, but very tired of people getting away with ripping off  good honest folk ..... . and walking away .scott free .....

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[Matthew Buote]

So my Dad gave money to this scam and has since passed away. I was wondering if anyone has ever met Harold? I was wondering if anyone can confirm the obituary? Thank you

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[Stephen Edwards]

Mathew ..there was a post made by James about a month ago ..confirming what you just asked and more relevant info ..regarding this saga ...  

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[Chris L]

Hello gang,

You may remember me.  I have been around since near the beginning and have hardly written a word until a year ago.  What happened about two years ago was I needed my deposit of $1000 back as soon as possible.  I waited for a year before reaching out to this group.  I was heading towards Harold's house and was going to stop in as I really needed the $1000.  Nobody would give me Harold's address.  Once I went public Harold promised he would return my deposit which he never did.

Now somebody named James has come forward and said if he can make everybody whole he will but no guarantees and no requirement.

I doubt James will make everybody whole but I don't see any use complaining either.  It is one of those things we should just learn from our mistakes and move on.

Personally, I still could use that $1000. If anyone can help I would be forever grateful.

Chris Lemon

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[stephen edwards]

Chris yes remember your post well ... You were asking for your $1k deposit back ..[ Harold always said if you want you money back just ask ]  Harold ended  up reaching out and asked you to wait as he would have all finalised very soon so you could have not only have your principle but the agreed amount as well ..... but you got zero ... and he stopped replying to your messages .. typical of how this saga has run over the years ,, sorry Chris if i could help you a would .. i am busted my self ..that is why i am very annoyed and frustrated with J4F at the moment .. would be a ray of sunshine if it came good in some way ... very ,much doubt it though 

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[Keith Burgett]

Thank you in advance,James for anything you are able to do!

Here’s my info in case you need it:

Keith Burgett

Tok...@gmail.com

817-825-3370

Member ID 2377

$1,000

On Nov 18, 2025, at 3:53 PM, James Griffin <jamesgr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Stephen, so you think I'm fake, you have my full name and photo. I gave the reasons why taking legal action is pointless. I did not even know this group existed, I subscribed the same day that I posted. You have twisted everything I said. I would advise you to read my posts again. I do not have an obligation do what I intend to do.  No funds are in place as of yet. I also do not have access to the J4F database. There was nothing to update since I last posted. Without access to the database i will not be able to fund anyone outside of 20 or so trusted friends.  There is still hope that I can get access. If I do I will post it here.

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[Brett Schulman]

Hey James ,

Why don't you contact Harold's Wife and tell her what you would like to accomplish- she may think that's a good idea and hand over the data base. Would not hurt to try, then you would be the hero and all the J4F members would love you forever! I have her address and phone number.

Brett

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[Robert Choppen]

Great idea Brent. It will also flush out if this is genuine or just a scam. If it’s genuine why wouldn’t she ?

Regards

Rob

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[Robert Nilla]

hello everyone.. i would sure like to know who the grantors were.. when harold was posting wb numbers on a spreadshieet.. then i realized this can't be real.. between all the members in this group we were going to be flush with wealth and live high in the sky.. FAT Chance..  Poor Harold Sides did not have the courage to tell the members how all the members hard earned money was lost..   When you play play invest the common people's money tell them false claims this is what we get.. never invest or put your money with a strange person claiming to bring you wealth when  you get no paperwork real documents.. And what were we investing our money in . We'll never know.. good luck to ouir nman at the helm i hope we can get some answers from all of this mess to calm the members..  

[John Young]

I did not get any responses re: a currency exchange contact I was asking for. Some of us sent foreign currency to Harold. Does anybody have a contact? I wish James would respond with what he knows. He previously stated that we would get funded but that is all he said.  

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