Correcting the Bangla spelling "লক্ষ্মীপুর" as "Lokkhipur" insted of different kind of spelling.

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Dinu Alam

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May 24, 2013, 4:27:05 AM5/24/13
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Let's Use "Lokkhipur" in Bangla "লক্ষ্মীপুর" instead of Luxmipur, Laxmipur, Lakshmipur, Lakipur and few more...ETC,    i am requesting more review about my edit @

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=39&fid=3985215009024060971:12428048927420072520

 Dawood Karim's review and comment about this matter really been appreciated. need more review from the local people, with Bangla knowledge. i can put this matter in my local community, where i am in Toronto, Canada @ "Google Map Maker Canada" or "Google Map Maker Toronto", forum for review request. But they don't know about Bangla. that's why i am posting this request here. There is no boundary line for doing any Edit in Google Map. Google Map Maker's without any Border's with Click and Enter.
Arman Khossain,  Dawood Karim, Khurshid Sihab,  Moshiur Rahman Masud already review this edit, i am requesting your judgement about the spelling of "লক্ষ্মীপুর" as ""Lokkhipur".
As Mr. Arman Khossain said about my origin, Quote " This is not the Lakshmipur of Bangladesh (your place of origin), this is rather an administrative area in India" i agreed, but Google is not under Indian administration, Indian administration mostly does not care about Bangla spelling "লক্ষ্মীপুর" as ""Lokkhipur"correct or not. but i do care, and i will. Because, My origin is from a little village in Bangladesh called "লক্ষ্মীপুর" as ""Lokkhipur". Arman Khossain knows about this as we have mail conversations before. My father Graduated as the time of British Raj in Indian sub continent, Work as a Government employee all his life, try ed to correct the English spelling of "লক্ষ্মীপুর" as ""Lokkhipur" any where he can. He was not successful @ all to do it. Because he did not have Google Map, Internet access or privilege as Google Map Maker, like me and U to correct anything in the World with our local knowledge for correction. i am only trying to finish my Late Father's unfinished thought about his beloved "লক্ষ্মীপুর - Lokkhipur". i am not changing any Geography at all. Just trying to correct the spelling of  "Lokkhipur - লক্ষ্মীপুর" word instead of Luxmipur, Laxmipur, Lakshmipur, Lakipur, Lakhipur...ETC, any where in the world for our future generation. Hundred's of places has been corrected to "লক্ষ্মীপুর - Lokkhipur" already.  If i can, i will do the correction now, will not wait for tomorrow @ all.
With Regard's.................Happy Mapping  :) :)

Tafsirul Alam

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May 24, 2013, 5:05:33 AM5/24/13
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Well, if you want to use the spelling 'Lokkhipur', first you'll have
to change the Bengali spelling to 'লখ্খীপুর'!

Dawood Karim

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May 24, 2013, 12:11:34 PM5/24/13
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Thanks you very much for putting this matter for discussion! I agree with Mr. Tafsirul that Lokkhipur can only be written as লখ্খীপুর! But the লখ্খীপুর and লক্ষ্মীপুর are not same at all! The naming of an are lies on the history of that land and changing it to লখ্খীপুর could only derail from the history! Still you have your way to put লখ্খীপুর as "obscure" (my suggestion)! 
As I said in the edit that ঢাকা is more correct as Dhaka than Dacca, চট্টগ্রাম may be Chottogram instead of Chittagong, and  কোলকাতা is more accurate as Kolkata.
But we pronounce Cox's Bazar as  কক্সবাজার; it's the place of Captain Hiram Cox. And it's history! Now what would happen, if we make the English spelling as KokshoBazar! I think it's wrong! 

Now লক্ষ্মীপুর is pronounced as লখ্খীপুর, (may be the place has some history with লক্ষ্মী), but my suggestion is we should not go for Lokhkhipur!

Thanks again,
Dawood



On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Mapping Bangladesh - ম্যাপিং বাংলাদেশ on behalf of Tafsirul Alam <mappingb...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Well, if you want to use the spelling 'Lokkhipur', first you'll have
to change the Bengali spelling to 'লখ্খীপুর'!

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Masum Ikbal

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May 26, 2013, 12:18:01 AM5/26/13
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Dear Mr. Dinu,

I also agree with Mr. Tafsirul and Mr. Dawood,

As the name itself came from the word Lakshmi the name should be on it. Still if the government changes the name we can apply the change. But the problem lies with government itself. In national web portal it uses the spelling "Lakshmipur" http://www.bangladesh.gov.bd/index.php?Itemid=272&id=225&option=com_content&task=view

But in some other government web pages like LGED it is using "Laxmipur".
http://laxmipurgovtcollege.edu.bd/
http://www.lged.gov.bd/DistrictLGED.aspx?DistrictID=9

The only confusion can be use of names Lakshmipur or Laxmipur. I don't know whether this proposal of using Lokkhipur will again create more confusion.

Masum Ikbal

Dinu Alam

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May 27, 2013, 1:54:00 AM5/27/13
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 This is the correction of the Bangla word "লক্ষ্মীপুর" should be spell exactly "Lokkhipur". Everyone going to the internet and looking for correction, if we don't correct this, Everyone going to the internet will see the wrong spelling of "লক্ষ্মীপুর-Lokkhipur" all the time. Let's do the correction with the correct word "Lokkhipur" now in the Google Map. Next person come to the internet and looking for correction will find the corrected word as "লক্ষ্মীপুর" "Lokkhipur" and start using it. Government people will the same as they come to the internet and looking for correction. Their after, they will start using Correct word " লক্ষ্মীপুর - Lokkhipur" instantly. i already E-mail few Government offices in India and requesting them to use the corrected word from now on, in Bangla "লক্ষ্মীপুর", as in English "Lokkhipur". and i will continue my E-mail ......Thank's Happy Mapping :) :) :) :)

Masud Rana (Shohagh)

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May 27, 2013, 2:25:09 AM5/27/13
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Dear Mr. Dinu,

Google Maps Bangladesh represent the Bangladeshi place. If we want to change the name lakshmipur District then  this change should come through the Parliament house.
Br. Dinu Just think those person who are are stayed in Lakshmipur and studied over there they  have the certificate. How many things you can change ?  District law Paper/ Police station paper / School,college certificate / Land paper / Motor Driving license paper  ???

What ever the name in Google maps, people are not so much bother  rather it will  conflict to other person when he found Maps name and Physical paper name is different.

If two or  Three RER wants, they can make Prime minister house together in every district -- just few approval need . But in this way changing its totally useless..
If we want to change the name in google then we have to change this through Parliament house/legal procedure . unless and until i am denied  this



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Shohagh

Tafsirul Alam

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May 27, 2013, 2:32:18 AM5/27/13
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Excellent observation by Shohagh bhai, agree with you.

Moshiur Rahman Masud

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May 27, 2013, 3:42:51 AM5/27/13
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Nice explanation by Shohag, Like it!!!

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On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Mapping Bangladesh - ম্যাপিং বাংলাদেশ on behalf of Tafsirul Alam <mappingb...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Excellent observation by Shohagh bhai, agree with you.

Dinu Alam

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May 28, 2013, 1:29:44 AM5/28/13
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As U said, Quote, "How many things you can change ?  District law Paper/ Police station paper / School,college certificate / Land paper / Motor Driving license paper?" answer is "Everything" if we do the change in the internet, i mean in Google Map, everything will be change day after day with the correct version of "Lokkhipur" in Bangla "লক্ষ্মীপুর".  People come to the internet and search for the correct word and spelling every moment. As a map maker we have the privilege to put the correct word in the Internet/ Google Map. 

As U wrote, Quote "If two or Three RER wants, they can make Prime minister house together in every district -- just few approval need . But in this way changing its totally useless. If we want to change the name in Google then we have to change this through Parliament house/legal procedure"..... not really,  Wow, as a district Leader U should not comment like this? U can try to do it, but your "D" or others "PER" can be revoked wright after your Edit, Because Google trusted U and other "PER"s and give privilege to do the wright thing, Not anything U want?  As a new Map Maker, i am requesting U to stay away from this kind of comment in future Please. If U can't help, please don't confused the others. With Regard's and Thank's..............I, well come U as a "District Leader- as D"  Happy Mapping :) :)

Avijit Roy Kabyo

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May 28, 2013, 1:46:59 AM5/28/13
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Dear Mr. Dinu, Please see the following:

লখখি = Lakkhi / Lokkhi
লক্ষি (ল+ক+ষ)  = Lakshmi 
লক্ষ্মী ( ল+ক+ষ+ম) = Lakshmi. [Here KSH=X, So, Laxmi / Luxmi
ক=k
খ= kh
ষ= sh
ক্ষ (ক+ষ) = ksh
ক্ষ্ম(ক+ষ+ম)= kshm


আর, আপনি যদি এই বানান পরিবর্তন করতে চান, তবে আপনাকে বাংলা যুক্ত বর্ণ এবং সব ধরনের বাংলা অভিধান পরিবর্তন করতে হবে। কিন্তু যুক্ত বর্ণ গুলো সম্পূর্ণ শুদ্ধ আর বাংলা ভাষা যেমন পরিপূর্ণ, ইংরেজী তেমন না। পৃথিবী সবথেকে সমৃদ্ধ ভাষা হল বাংলা , কিন্তু ইংরেজী তেমন না, তাই তো বাংলা কিছু ইংরেজী তে লিখতে হলে আমাদের কয়েকটা বর্ণ একসাথে ব্যবহার করতে হয়।

এতেও যদি আপনি মনে করেন পরিবর্তন দরকার, তবে আপনার কাছে বিনীত অনুরোধ, আপনি একবার বাংলা একাডেমী তে যোগাযোগ করেন। 

আশা করি তারা আপনাকে সমাধান দিতে পারবে।

আর ম্যাপ এ যেহেতু আমরা শুধু মাত্র অফিসিয়াল নাম ব্যবহার করি, তাই এতে আমাদের নিজেদের মন মত কিছু করতে পারব না বা করার ইচ্ছাও নেই।

আপনাকে অসংখ্য ধন্যবাদ। 







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May 28, 2013, 2:10:34 AM5/28/13
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Br.Avijit Nice Reply I like it.
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Masud Rana (Shohagh)

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May 28, 2013, 2:27:18 AM5/28/13
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Dear Mr. Dinu,

After reading Mr. Avijit explanation what do u think ?  you should change the name or we people should accept this ?
OK i consider you are right. Then think, if you are correct  then i have to consider that our Mother tongue (Bengali) is incorrect.  -Please give me a explanation only this line.

Regards
Shohagh 




Dinu Alam

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May 28, 2013, 2:53:42 AM5/28/13
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Please look @ Arman Khossain's Edit about "Bogra" - as corrected to "Bogura" Now (Today). i congratulate him about this Edit, about his home town. Did he change everything official, everywhere in Bogra to the new word "Bogura" at all ? Did he? or U? or Us  change District law Paper/ Police station paper / School,college certificate / Land paper / Motor Driving license paper before approveing this Edit ??? NO. So, let's do our part to do the correction in Google Map, others will do their correction accordingly day by day. 

i really appreciate Mr. Avijit Roy Kabyo's comment about this matter.    Still,

 
   i am requesting more review about my edit @


http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=39&fid=3985215009024060971:12428048927420072520

 

Avijit Roy Kabyo

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May 28, 2013, 3:12:20 AM5/28/13
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Dear Mr. Dinu, 
Br. Arman added that name with Obscure name flag as we really can Understand that বগুড়া = Bogura.

Many people know this spelling and using this as well. Also there are no spelling mistake in translation of this name.
ব =Ba/ Bo
গু =Gu
ড়া =Ra

But there are a lot of problems with your suggestion.

Also another thing, Your edit does not belongs to Bangladesh. I am requesting you to request some INDIAN RER or try contacting Indian mapping community to approve your edit. 

If they approve that's totally their own responsibility. We have no interest on that part or their work. We are trying to develop our country map.

Hope you now got it and I wish this problem will be resolved after this mail.








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Dinu Alam

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May 28, 2013, 6:03:21 PM5/28/13
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Thank U and i already did it @ "Indian Mapping Community Forum" for more Review. :)
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May 28, 2013, 11:05:33 PM5/28/13
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Mr.Dinu, further any problem in Indian any edit  of you always inform I "Indian Mapping Community Forum"
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