Mapbasic 9
Rob Schneider - Aurchem Exploration
Mapbasic 9 is now available for free download at mipro.com
Cheers,
Rob
Sumit Kaul
Well the the new version works only with MI 9, its not compatible with older
versions of MapInfo :(
Regards & Thanks
Sumit Kaul
Cell : +965.7200329
Mats Elfström
Do you mean to say that MIPRO 9 is required to run MB 9, or just that
compiled apps does not run in earlier versions?
Because the latter case can be fixed, as long as you are not using any
version 9 specific coding in your MB app.
Regards, Mats.E
2007/6/20, Sumit Kaul <sumit...@gmail.com>:
Rob Schneider - Aurchem Exploration
HTH,
Rob
Sumit Kaul wrote:
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Sumit Kaul
If you try the download link at mipro, it clearly states at the download
page :-
IMPORTANT: Please note that MapBasic v9.0 requires MapInfo Professional v9.0
or higher to run the program. Older versions of MapInfo Professional will
not be able to run applications built in MapInfo Professional v9.0
Also, in the download requirements, it mentions
Download Requirements:
a.. MapInfo Professional v9.0
b.. Windows Vista
c.. Windows 2000 with Service Pack 4
d.. Windows XP Home SP2
e.. Windows XP Professional SP2
Anyone who has tried MapBasic 9, on earliar MapInfo versions. I havent yet
tried it myself :)
Sumit Kaul
Sumit Kaul
Cell : +965.7200329
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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:04 PMSubject: [MI-L] Re: Mapbasic 9
bthoen
> Hi Sumit!
>
> Do you mean to say that MIPRO 9 is required to run MB 9, or just that
> compiled apps does not run in earlier versions?
> Because the latter case can be fixed, as long as you are not using any
> version 9 specific coding in your MB app.
>
Not in this case...Testing with a program that works fine in 8.5, I
compiled it with MB9, and then rolled back the version number in the mbx
to 850. The program installed in the menu, but a custom toolbutton
failed to work.
bth...@gisnet.com
and found that in addition to the easily altered version number they
also differ in certain procedure call addresses (to tool button
procedures at least). I suspect that the 9.0 compiler checks the host
system to see if MapInfo version 9.0 is installed and if it's not,
then it doesn't assign the proper "jump" address in the MBX, rending
it useless. Only the simplest applications work, and the rest either
do nothing or die horribly.
So I guess that even though MapBasic is free from now on, you need to
pony up for the latest MapInfo to take advantage of it.
Bob Young
I think that is quite a fair exchange that we get the compiler for free as
long as everybody is encouraged to upgrade to version 9.0 Pro.
I think it is the case that you can buy upgrades at the old price during
June as well - thats certainly the case for the UK.
From 9.0 on though presumably it will then be backward compatible to version
9.0 ie you will be able to use MapBasic version 9.0 with MapInfo 10.0.
Regards
Bob
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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:12 PM
Subject: [MI-L] Re: Mapbasic 9
>
Ross Nixon
> I did some additional testing with MBX's compiled in both 8.5 and 9.0
I take it from this that I can install 9.0 in another folder without
affecting an earlier version like 6.5?
It could be a good idea to start another "group" to discuss / share
MapBasic code problems / snippets.
A user compiled list of what functions / procedure calls to avoid if
one will be stuck with MIPro 8.5 for the foreseeable future would be
handy.
I don't suppose MapBasic 8.5 will be available as abandonware anytime
soon?
SCISOFT
>> A user compiled list of what functions / procedure calls
>> to avoid if one will be stuck with MIPro 8.5 for the
>> foreseeable future would be handy.
Apart from a lot of time/date stuff, in MB9 there are only a few commands
for which there are new clauses - and not much else.
(So it is an easy one to add to Jacques Paris' excellent comparative
document of MB versions)
I think it's a poor business decision to make MB9 available free, and
exclude its use by those who have earlier versions of MI - unless a very
low-cost runtime for MI is also made available. That would be an alternative
to making a "less-than-MB9" (ie MB8.5 or 7.8 or whatever) available at a low
cost, or free.
I guess the thinking is to maximize upgrading from older MI versions to MI9,
rather than to supplement or augment users' abilities via the user community
producing MBX.
Although MI is advancing, MB the language and its functionality really
isn't. To an extent, the functionality that is achieved by MBX targeting the
more recent releases of MI is through calling the MI tools. Or is that not
so?
I guess I'm a bit dark on the abandonment of a .NET version of MI (except
for MapXtreme), but obviously the possible appearance of MI.NET and phasing
out of MI-ordinary caused huge angst in the user community over several
years. So I won't be upgrading my MI6.5 - ever.
It was easier to sell the company than to face those problems, perhaps?
Ian Thomas
GeoSciSoft - Perth, Australia
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:28 AM
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Subject: [MI-L] Re: Mapbasic 9
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Gregory...@mapinfo.com
Great idea. In fact, one of the main reasons we made MapBasic free is so that more people like you would create utilities, useful code snippets, etc. and share them. We can only build a limited amount of functionality into MapInfo Professional but a community like MI-L has almost unlimited ability to create and share for free. It is our goal at MapInfo to create a community web area for people to upload, download, and share MapBasic applications, problems and solutions. Not a replacement in anyway for MI-L but a place dedicated to MapBasic scripts. We started this in a limited way with the release of v8.5. You can find that page here:
http://www.mapinfo.com/location/integration?txtTopNav=NOT_SELECTED&txtLeftNav=NOT_SELECTED&txtExtNav=NOT_SELECTED&txtDetailType=FREEFORM_TEXTAREA&txtDetailID=5188
Currently, an ugly url but we will create a forwarding one once we upgrade the site to handle what we hope will be a lot of new traffic and activity.
Greg Donahue
Marketing Manager
Pitney Bowes MapInfo
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Julian Flint
This is a very interesting thread! We have a group of organisations that we deal with using a range of MI versions - from 8.0 to 9.0 (very shortly). We have a couple of MBX files that we have just had written that do thematic mapping and WERE going to get MI 9.0 and make the use of the MapBasic 9.0 to write more. I am wondering whether this is such a good idea now.
2 Questions:
1. Are we better off forking out the $$ for MapBasic now, and using this version to write MBXs that will be able to be run on a range of MI versions, instead of waiting for the free version that may only work with future versions of MI?
2. Will the above MBXs written with the current MBasic work with future versions of MI? From what I have read, they will, but just need to confirm this.....
Thanks and Cheers
Julian
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From: mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gregory...@mapinfo.com
Sent: 21 June 2007 03:11
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MI-L] Re: Mapbasic 9
Great idea. In fact, one of the main reasons we made MapBasic free is so that more people like you would create utilities, useful code snippets, etc. and share them. We can only build a limited amount of functionality into MapInfo Professional but a community like MI-L has almost unlimited ability to create and share for free. It is our goal at MapInfo to create a community web area for people to upload, download, and share MapBasic applications, problems and solutions. Not a replacement in anyway for MI-L but a place dedicated to MapBasic scripts. We started this in a limited way with the release of v8.5. You can find that page here:
http://www.mapinfo.com/location/integration?txtTopNav=NOT_SELECTED&txtLeftNav=NOT_SELECTED&txtExtNav=NOT_SELECTED&txtDetailType=FREEFORM_TEXTAREA&txtDetailID=5188
Currently, an ugly url but we will create a forwarding one once we upgrade the site to handle what we hope will be a lot of new traffic and activity.
Greg Donahue
Marketing Manager
Pitney Bowes MapInfo
Ross Nixon <ross...@gmail.com>
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Lawley, Russell S
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Peter Horsbøll Møller
Yes, you can install MapBasic in different folders and in this way have several versions available.
This is what I do, as I not always am sure that my costumer has the latest version of MapInfo Pro.
I don't think we want to create a new group for sharing mapBasic codes and ideas. This can actually still be done - and has been done over the last many years, thru MapInfo-L. It would of course be nice to have a special web site where you could upload your stuff and have other people download it. And as others have stated, DirectionsMag does this.
Peter Horsbøll Møller
GIS Developer, MTM
Geographical Information & IT
COWI A/S
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DK-5260 Odense S.
Denmark
Tel +45 6311 4900
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Mob +45 5156 1045
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From: mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ross Nixon
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:28 AM
To: MapInfo-L
Subject: [MI-L] Re: Mapbasic 9
Peter Horsbøll Møller
I actually think this was mentioned at the Dev Summit in May.
Maybe someone from MapInfo would like to shed some light on this ?
Peter Horsbøll Møller
GIS Developer, MTM
Geographical Information & IT
COWI A/S
Odensevej 95
DK-5260 Odense S.
Denmark
Tel +45 6311 4900
Direct +45 6311 4908
Mob +45 5156 1045
Fax +45 6311 4949
E-mail p...@cowi.dk
http://www.cowi.dk/gis
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:13 AM
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Subject: [MI-L] Re: Mapbasic 9
Lars I. Nielsen (Hvenegaard)
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S.
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4908
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1045
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"Syn for sagen" er temaet for dette års MapInfo
konference 2007.
Se programmet for
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:14 PM
G Donahue
From: Lars I. Nielsen (Hvenegaard) <L...@hvenegaard.dk>
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Gregory...@mapinfo.com
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:42:35 AM
Subject: [MI-L] Re: Mapbasic 9 - older versions ?
Lars I. Nielsen
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Bill Thoen
> Does this mean if I upgrade from 7.5 to 9, I will get MapBasic free? Or to
> get MapBasic free with 9, would I have to purchase the full v9 rather than
> the cheaper upgrade path?
Yes, if you get MI Pro 9, you can get MapBasic free. In fact, you can
download it now, if you like. The bad news is, you can't upgrade from
anything older than 7.8. If you have MapInfo 7.5 or older, you have to buy
a new copy for $1495 (if you're in North America). You can usually get
discounts if you buy from one of the larger resellers (and shop around just
before the end of a quarter).
Gentreau
One way you could help us here, both in terms of using the correct
tools for the job and also to allow us to encourage customers to
upgrade MI-Pro, would be to provide a full compatability matrix
between the different versions of MI,MB and Windows.
Example1: What is the minimum MB/MI version which works with Win XP,
Win Server 2003, Windows 2000 etc etc
I have requested this before, but never had a reply.
Also could you confirm that mbx's re-compiled with MB9 are backwards
compatible with earlier versions of MI-Pro.
I do not want to annoy my customers because of lack of information
from PB-MI.
Hope you can help.
Gentreau.
On Jun 21, 2:59 pm, G Donahue <g_j_dona...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well one simple reason, Lars, is that MapInfo is a business. If we want to stay in business we actually have to make money. Making MapBasic free from v9.0 onward is eliminating a product that generated a very good revenue stream for us. In return, we are hoping many in our community will move to our latest version of MapInfo Professional and use the new features and functions we've put in over the years. And yes, if you are not on maintenance, you will have to pay to do this - either upgrade or buy a new seat. As always, you can choose not to and continue using the version you are on if you wish.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lars I. Nielsen (Hvenegaard) <L...@hvenegaard.dk>
> To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
>
> Cc: Gregory_Dona...@mapinfo.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:42:35 AM
> Subject: [MI-L] Re: Mapbasic 9 - older versions ?
>
> If the reason stated here by Greg for making MapBasic a free utility is to be accepted at its face value, why not make all versions of MapBasic free ?
>
> If MapInfo wants to empower its user community to create and share applications freely, why not do it for all MapInfo users and developers, not just those that run MIPro 9 ?
>
> I always try to use the lowest possible version of MapBasic when making mapplications, to ensure that my users aren't tripped by unnecessary version limitations.
>
> Reverse-engineering mbx's to lower versions, with all the pitfalls that includes, is only a work-around, not a strategy, imho.
>
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
> Lars I. Nielsen
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> Denmark
> Tel. +45 6313 5050http://www.hvenegaard.dk
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gregory_Dona...@mapinfo.com
> To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:10 AM
> Subject: [MI-L] Re: Mapbasic 9
>
> Great idea. In fact, one of the main reasons we made MapBasic free is so that more people like you would create utilities, useful code snippets, etc. and share them. We can only build a limited amount of functionality into MapInfo Professional but a community like MI-L has almost unlimited ability to create and share for free. It is our goal at MapInfo to create a community web area for people to upload, download, and share MapBasic applications, problems and solutions. Not a replacement in anyway for MI-L but a place dedicated to MapBasic scripts. We started this in a limited way with the release of v8.5. You can find that page here:
>
> http://www.mapinfo.com/location/integration?txtTopNav=NOT_SELECTED&tx...
>
> Currently, an ugly url but we will create a forwarding one once we upgrade the site to handle what we hope will be a lot of new traffic and activity.
>
> Greg Donahue
> Marketing Manager
> Pitney Bowes MapInfo
>
> Ross Nixon <rossni...@gmail.com>
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> Subject[MI-L] Re: Mapbasic 9
>
> On Jun 21, 10:12 am, bth...@gisnet.com wrote:
> > I did some additional testing with MBX's compiled in both 8.5 and 9.0
>
> I take it from this that I can install 9.0 in another folder without
> affecting an earlier version like 6.5?
>
> It could be a good idea to start another "group" to discuss / share
> MapBasic code problems / snippets.
> A user compiled list of what functions / procedure calls to avoid if
> one will be stuck with MIPro 8.5 for the foreseeable future would be
> handy.
> I don't suppose MapBasic 8.5 will be available as abandonware anytime
> soon?
>
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Hi Gentreau,
Thanks for the suggestion. It generated a thread of emails here and we are working on it. We hope to post something to our website soon with this chart.
Greg
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