Adding North Arrow To Layout

[Mychele Joyes]

I'm using Mapinfo 12.5 and I can't seem to add a North Arrow in Layout view. I've tried putting it in a map but since I have a clipping region on it will only show up if it is within the clipping region. 
Any suggestions for how to do this?

[bec]

Hi Mychele,

I just checked it out and I can't find it either, so I'll be watching your thread with interest!

Thanks for bringing it up


- Bec

[Peter H]

Hi,

I am not using 12.5 (yet), but in V12 a simple solution would be to add the symbol (use MAPINFO ARROWS) directly to the layout, unless I'm missing something here and V12.5 has dramatically changed this simple operation. No need to go anywhere near the map window with this (in V12 anyway).


Thanks Peter

[bec]

That would work IF north was in a predictable direction. If for some reason you have rotated your map window (no idea if you can do this in 12.5 but you can in earlier versions) the symbol may not longer be pointing in the direction of north.

You probably wouldn't do this often but I know I have done it when I had something that was long and thin and at an angle, I've rotated it to make the most of the page orientation. In this case a proper MI north arrow would automatically adjust to the new map window



- Bec

[Peter H]

You could also try the north Arrow mbx (attached)

[Brendan Stone]

If you know the angle you have rotated your map, you can create a point on the layout and rotate it by the same amount in the symbol style dialog.

However, it's not possible to create points directly on the layout window in Mapinfo 12.5 64bit!

In this case, I would just insert a jpg/png image of a north arrow (not sure if you can rotate images in 64bit, but you can always rotate the image before you import to Mapinfo)

Brendan

[college.atlas]

There's another thread on this around.

Apparently 12.5 64bit doesn't allow points to be added to the layout directly.An oversight or in development or something.

The official response is to create a mapper with ONLY the point(north arrow) in it and add a borderless frame to your layout.

However, as pointed out the rotations would need to match if the map is rotated.

[Nicholas G Lawrence]

Actually, for placing geometric objects on the layout, our options have been severely cut back all over.

 

Points = not possible

Lines = Limited to just a line segment, polyline is gone. The line style is limited to “no style” or plain. All the dashed, and so on lines are gone

Regions = limited to rectangle, ellipse and rounded rectangle. The “any shape at all” polygon is gone. And the fill pattern is reduced to “no-fill” or solid fill.

 

On the plus side, I am quite happy with the option to insert a jpeg image directly onto the layout. This is perfect for logos. Thankyou Pitney Bowes!

 

I think I will recommend to the users I support that they insert an image of a north point.

 

Cheers,

Nick Lawrence

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[Nicholas G Lawrence]

I’m hoping for the option to create a dynamic north arrow associated to a map window, similar to the dynamic legend that is associated with a map window.

 

That way, the north arrow would automatically orientate itself to the same direction as the map.

 

Cheers,

Nick

 

From: mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of college.atlas
Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2015 3:49 PM
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MI-L] Re: Adding North Arrow To Layout

 

There's another thread on this around.

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[Nicholas G Lawrence]

So, I was experimenting with different ways to create a north point.

 

I placed a north point symbol in the cosmetic layer of my map window.

 

Then I went to the layout which had the map window in a frame.

 

The north point symbol does not appear in the layout.

 

I went back to the map window and created a big region in the cosmetic layer, just in case my point symbol was too small to see. This does not appear in the layout either.

 

It seems as if the cosmetic layer of the map window does not come over to the layout.

 

Then, I tried the whole thing again from another direction.

 

In the layout, I double-clicked on the map frame, and then made the cosmetic layer editable and then placed a north point symbol in the cosmetic layer. This point symbol is visible on the layout!

 

Sooo, I’m guessing that there is actually two map windows? One on its own, and one inside the frame in the layout? And they each have a different cosmetic layer?

 

Can anyone confirm????

 

Cheers,

Nick

[Peter H]

Sorta glad my employer is in the dark ages and still running windows xp  which prevented me from upgrading to V12.5.
Hopefully v13(??) will return some of this simple functionality.

Have a good weekend

[Peter Horsbøll Møller]

Nick

Yes. You are right.

The new Layout Designer (or just Layout in 64 bit) Window holds an active map and is no longer linked to another "real" map window.

When you insert a map window into a frame in the Layout Designer, the map window gets cloned and is therefor a copy of the original map.

You can also create a new map from scratch into a frame in the Layout Designer.

From the above also comes that once you have your map in the Layout Designer, you can close the original map if you don't need it as a stand alone map window.

As the map in the frame is a map, you can work with it like any other map window once you have activated it (doubled clicked or Alt + clicked on it). You can add more layers to it, change the layer settings, edit a layer, edit the cosmetic layer, zoom and pan and set a specific scale via Change View.

Tom Probert wrote a small article on the new Layout Designer in the MapInfo Pro Journal back in July:

http://web.pb.com/mapinfopro-jul-2014/New-Layout-Designer

Peter Horsbøll Møller

Pitney Bowes Software

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Subject: RE: [MI-L] Re: Adding North Arrow To Layout

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 23:55:07 +0000

[Mychele Joyes]

Thanks for the replies. I did manage to get the North Arrow in a map in the layout view. What I'm still having trouble with is that when I have a clipping region ON I can't get the North Arrow to appear in the area that gets clipped in either a map window or the layout window. It seems like the cosmetic layer is getting clipped along with everything else. When I insert a North arrow it gets inserted as I can use a marquee to select it, move it, and delete it. It just isn't visible in any view, I think due to clipping.