Printing Raster Images in Large Format
MiningMapper
trouble printing raster Images to Adobe - where only the upper left
corner of the image is printing. I am having this problem not only
with Adobe - but when printing directly to the printer, trying to save
the Layout window to an image, and using another PDF writer to create
the image (although the other PDF writer gets a bigger chunk of the
upper left hand corner). Other times when I have been printing raster
Images - I am getting striping in the print and weird streching and
cutting of the image (both when printing to Adobe or another PDF
writer - or printing directly to the plotter). This seems to be
happening when I am printing Large maps (bigger than ARCH D).
These problems seem to have begun with Mapinfo 9.0 - and I will call
Mapinfo tomorrow to see if they are aware of some bug in MI that has
been identified. (maybe when I log onto my computer in the morning
this problem will mysteriously disappear....). But I'd like to know
if other people are having similar problems plotting large format
raster images from Mapinfo - and if these problems began with 9.0.
thanks.
Barbara Carroll
are used. Try dropping the resolution down to either 300 dpi or 150 dpi and
it should work for you. Seems too bad - I have IKONOS imagery that's
awesome and a plotter capable of 2400 dpi but can't take advantage of
either. If you need to know my configuration - please feel free to contact
me directly and I can give you my settings that worked.
Regards
Barbara Carroll
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2480 W. Ruthrauff #140G - Tucson, AZ 85705
520 744-4457
Peter Horsbøll Møller
http://reference.mapinfo.com/software/mapinfo_pro/english/9.0/Printing.pdf
Maybe this solution can help you
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Richard Greenwood
As noted by Barbara Carroll, the only guaranteed method is to drop the
resolution of the raster, which can involve a lot of work. 175 DPI is
the max resolution recommended for an HP 1050 (which I think has an
advertised resolution of 1200DPI). You never want to get anywhere
close to an ink jet printer's advertised DPI.
I have found MapInfo 8.0 to be the best of the newer releases at
printing larger raster maps. I don't have 9.0, but I frequently have a
plot failure in 8.5 that plots successfully in 8.0.
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Richard Greenwood
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Thomas Rodger
9.0 but I've also changed offices and plotters, so cannot do a
comparison.
The easiest work around for me was to create a PDF using one of the free
PDF creators, and dropping the resolution to around 150 / 200dpi in the
printer settings. I then print the pdf to the plotter, and all of the
raster comes out. It does lengthen the whole printing process which is a
pain.
HTH
Thomas
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>
> I have never seen this stated before. What is it based on?
> Thank you.
> ____________
> Kent Treichel
I picked it up on an HP forum after a long thread of discussing
plotting problems. It came from the moderator. I couldn't get my head
around it at first. But here's how I see it now: A printer and a
monitor are completely different. Each pixel in a monitor can display
any one of ~16,000,000 colors, but each dot of an ink jet printer can
only display one of 4 colors, so the printer uses up quite a few dots
to blend the 4 ink colors into the requested color.
I spent a lot of time experimenting and testing and I could not detect
any difference between a 175 DPI and 12000 DPI plot sent to an HP 1050
(except that the 175 DPI plot actually plotted).
Thomas Roger mentioned the print-to-PDF trick, and sometimes that
works, but if you're way over the top with DPI, not even that will
work, as pointed out by MiningMapper who initiated this thread.
Different versions of MapInfo are better/worse at printing large
plots. I've used MapInfo since 3.0 and can't remember all the
versions, but 8.0 is better than 8.5 (with either of the 'tiled'
printing option). I didn't pony up for 9.0. I wish MapInfo would get
it's act together with printing, and hatches, which are often the root
of the printing issues. MapInfo hatches are all raster (not vector)
which in many cases are memory intensive (problematic).
I'm a regular ESRI-basher, but ArcGIS 9 has a good option in the print
setup that allows the user to downsample what gets sent to the print
device. They also seem to have vector hatches.
Rich
>
> > As noted by Barbara Carroll, the only guaranteed method is to drop the
> > resolution of the raster, which can involve a lot of work. 175 DPI is
> > the max resolution recommended for an HP 1050 (which I think has an
> > advertised resolution of 1200DPI). You never want to get anywhere
> > close to an ink jet printer's advertised DPI.
> -
> > Richard Greenwood
> > richard....@gmail.com
> > www.greenwoodmap.com
Amit Poojari
For Raster / Statellite Images Printing in MapInfo Professional 9.0,
while you give print , In print dialog box there is option advanced,
in that in Dither Method give option Error Diffusion. Then try to
print directly in Print. If again problem occurs then print using EMF
method. So the raster will print correctly.
Regards,
Amit O Poojari
Omcad Systems India Inc.,
Bangalore.
On Aug 17, 6:04 am, "Richard Greenwood" <richard.greenw...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > richard.greenw...@gmail.com
> > >www.greenwoodmap.com
>
> --
> Richard Greenwood
> richard.greenw...@gmail.comwww.greenwoodmap.com
Richard Greenwood
>
> Thank you for digging up this info. I like getting smarter vicariously. I
> use an HP800. Do you set the default dpi to 175, or just make that change
> to large plots?
> Do you know if any of this info is applicable to color laserjets? Or is it
> something completely different?
> I did upgrade to ver 9 from 7.8. Any idea if 7.8 is better for printing?
> What type of testing might determine this fact?
> The reward for answering questions is more questions.
> Thank you.
> ____________
> Kent Treichel
It's usually best to keep list discussion on the list so that others
can participate. It also gets the discussion into the list archive,
which can be invaluable when Googling for answers.
What I was talking about regarding DPI is the effective DPI that you
are sending to the plotter. So if you have 1 foot ortho-imagery and
you're map is at a scale of 1"=200', then you effective DPI is 200,
which is fine. But if you're doing 1"=2,000' then your effective DPI
is 2,000 and you're likely to run into problems with large page sizes,
e.g. 36"x56".
There are a lot of other factors that contribute to problems;
generally in order of what I consider to be culprits: hatches, text
with halos, lots of text, complex lines. That's a pretty subjective
list, but all those elements add to the total size of the plot. You
might get a 2,000 DPI plot out with just imagery, but adding haloed
text may cause it to fail.
I skipped 7.8, but I do recommend keeping a couple version of MapInfo
on your machine.
Also, as was discussed recently, if you're really fighting with a
large plot not plotting completely - reboot. (Or as was suggested in
the previous thread - restart the print spooler). This only helps if
you've already done one or more plots.
As far as testing, I find just getting my work done testing enough. I
do a lot of large complex maps with high resolution imagery, so I seem
to have many "opportunities" to test MapInfo's printing/plotting.
BenM
After I last posted re the problems of printing with ADOBE where the
image file tiled in the upper left hand corner, I uninstalled ADOBE 8
and re-installed ADOBE Distiller 4.
It does seem that the older version is more stable and lets me Save at
resolutions up to 1200 dpi (Important when printing complex cadastral
maps).
Just another option to try.
Mats Elfström
If a pdf file is the goal, and the Adobe pdf utility you are using
causes the problem. maybe you could try another pdf engine?
In the past, I have used GeoPrinter
http://www.geoprinter.com/catalog/printer_download.php
which can be had for free, and is aimed at map making.
However, when I last used it, it was MapInfos legacy pixel limit that
stopped me from using the full theoretical resolution of our plotter,
not the pdf engine per se.
But that limit is removed in later versions (or?)
Just a tip.
Mats.E
2007/8/21, BenM <mol...@macroplan.com.au>:
MiningMapper
Thanks to Peter Horsboll Moller who directed me to the MapInfo
Reference page - http://reference.mapinfo.com/software/mapinfo_pro/english/9.0/Printing.pdf
The section "Enabling the Subdivided Printing Option" describes some
of the "block" problems I was having before. When I enabled (?) this
option - my printing problems went away (which doesn't really make
sense to me since the document describes the problem occuring when
this option is enabled!?!). In any case, I do think this is a
critical piece of information for anyone trying to do complex prints.
(to test the full printing capeability - I printed 42x52" map
containing 4 Digital Orthoquadrangle photos - with an overlaying
transparent raster, and vector overlay - reprojected - to a PDF. I
am still amazed it printed).
I still need to print to a PDF writer for larger plots - and it helped
keep file sizes reasonable if I decreases (300 - 600 dpi). I am still
sifting through some of the discussion on PDF writers - as I know that
this is still a critical piece of the puzzle as you move to larger and
larger plots.
Thanks again to Peter - and to all the others who added their
thoughts!
On Aug 21, 12:35 am, "Mats Elfström" <mats.elfst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All!
>
> If a pdf file is the goal, and the Adobe pdf utility you are using
> causes the problem. maybe you could try another pdf engine?
> In the past, I have used GeoPrinterhttp://www.geoprinter.com/catalog/printer_download.php
> which can be had for free, and is aimed at map making.
>
> However, when I last used it, it was MapInfos legacy pixel limit that
> stopped me from using the full theoretical resolution of our plotter,
> not the pdf engine per se.
> But that limit is removed in later versions (or?)
>
> Just a tip.
>
> Mats.E
>
> 2007/8/21, BenM <moll...@macroplan.com.au>:
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