[MI-L] MI run-time

[Tim Smith]

 

Hi,

 

Does anyone know if MapInfo sell MapInfo run-time licenses, and what the difference is between MI pro and a run-time?

 

Kind regards

 

Tim Smith

[Bob Young]

Hi Tim

 

There are two versions of Runtime. They both have the full power of MapInfo, but within the licencing the Viewer licence limits you to reading data only. ie You cannot write or edit tables. In the Manipulator licence agreement you are allowed to read and write/edit tables.

 

With both versions the licence must be used with one dedicated MBX application, and only one MBX application.

 

For example Buchanan Computing sell excellent highway solutions with Runtimes. Their customers can use the Runtime with the application, but cannot use the Runtime with a second MBX from a different source.

 

The Manipulator licence is currently 500 pounds and the Viewer about 300 pounds. This compares favourably with a full licence at 1095. All prices are about to increase by about 9 per cent with the Release of Version 9.0.

 

The Runtimes should only be made available to end users as a Turnkey system - ie with a dedicated MBX.

 

Regards

 

 

Bob

[Warren Vick, Europa Technologies Ltd.]

Don't be too put off by the figures presented by Bob. Here in the UK, I think we still have the highest global prices for MapInfo products, second only to Japan.

Regards,
Warren Vick
Europa Technologies Ltd.
http://www.europa-tech.com

[Bob Young]

Hi Warren

 

What a perplexing posting....   Last time I checked Hampshire was in the UK ( at least they're not in Tokyo!). Do you source offshore?

 

Hows things?

 

Best wishes

[Warren Vick, Europa Technologies Ltd.]

Hello Bob,

 

Perhaps we should have a quick global price comparison of MapInfo Pro, in the same way the Economist has their Big Mac index.

 

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but I think Pro sells for $1495 in the US.

In the UK, £1095 (@ 1.977) is currently $2164.81

 

The gap was of course much smaller in the past due to GBP/USD FX changes.

 

It would be great if other -L'ers from around the world could post their Pro price (before sales tax) in local currency and USD. My comment on Japan's price could be out of date now.

 

P.S. I'm in Surrey, usually... California right now. ;-)

[Spatial Decisions]

Hello MapInfo Listers

 

Down here in Australia, the current price of MapInfo Professional is AUD$2,725 (approx. US$2,265).

 

However, from the 1st of July the price is going to increase (the first time in more than 10 years here in Oz) to AUD$3,095 (approx. US$2,575).

 

The above prices are ex our GST (Goods & Services Tax) which adds another 10% to the customer.

 

 

Interesting to see the differences across the globe isn't it !!!

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

Tony Maber  -  Certified MapInfo Professional
Business Services Manager
SPATIAL DECISIONS PTY LTD
(A MapInfo Partner Company)
www.spatialdecisions.com.au
Ph: 61 2 9528-2822
Fax: 61 2 9528-2833
Mob: 61 404-861-858

 

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[Warren Vick, Europa Technologies Ltd.]

 >  Down here in Australia, the current price of MapInfo Professional is AUD$2,725 (approx. US$2,265).

Wow, looks like the UK is down one notch on the index already!

 

Regards,
Warren Vick
Europa Technologies Ltd.
http://www.europa-tech.com

Tel: +44 20 8398 3955 x201

[Bob Young]

Hi Warren

 

My reference to Hampshire was because Tims company, who asked about differences between Runtime and Pro, are based there - therefore UK pricing was relevant to their original question.

 

To answer your new question MI Pro UK pricing is going up from 1095 plus VAT to 1195 plus VAT on 1 July 2007. This will be the first price rise here for 13 years.

 

Hope your weather is a bit better than here!

[Timothy Mashford]

Seeing as how MI Pro in Australia costs over twice as much as in the
US, is there anything stopping a customer from purchasing the software
in the US and taking it overseas?

And if there are licensing issues, a hypothetical:

What about if I live in the US and have purchased a copy of MI Pro,
then I pack up and move to Australia - can I still use this? Or do I
have to purchase a new copy, even if it is the same version etc?

Just wondering how such a massive price difference can exist.

Tim Mashford.

[Graham Bish]

Hi all

Looking for map layers of South Africa
Provinces
Municipality
Postcodes

Can anyone help?

Kind regards

Graham Bish
Senior Consultant
Neil Clark & Associates
Ph. 03 5441 1244
Fx. 03 5441 1366

[Uffe Kousgaard]

> Seeing as how MI Pro in Australia costs over twice as much as in the
> US, is there anything stopping a customer from purchasing the software
> in the US and taking it overseas?

No, if you can find a reseller who don't mind, it is possible.

I tried to do that with ArcGIS, but all resellers I contacted refused and
you can't buy ArcGIS off the shelf (same with MapInfo I guess). Here the
price difference is like 1500 USD versus 4000 USD. At that time there was
even an introductory offer for ArcGIS for <1000 USD and that offer didn't
exist here in Denmark. The price difference could have paid for a whole trip
to the US !

> What about if I live in the US and have purchased a copy of MI Pro,
> then I pack up and move to Australia - can I still use this?

I doubt that would be a problem. It probably doesn't happen a lot. Getting
updates in Australia may be a problem, however.

> Just wondering how such a massive price difference can exist.

When the vendors give resellers local monopolies they can get away with a
lot of stuff.

Regards
Uffe Kousgaard

[Tim Rideout]

I have recently discussed the pound / dollar price differential with MapInfo
and basically it has arisen because of the quite large fall in the value of
the dollar. For example three or four years ago there was $1.40 = £1, now
there are two dollars to the pound.

I think MapInfo would like to increase the US price rather than decrease
that in the rest of the world, but the US market is, I think, quite
resistant to that.

The UK has just had a modest increase in the price of MapInfo, but that is
the first in 13 years, apparently.

I have also asked what is to stop people ordering from another country, and
in short the answer is nothing legally. It is, though, contrary to the terms
for the reseller as you are supposed to stick to your territory. Also, the
keycodes tell MapInfo the source of the product, so the purchaser risks them
refusing upgrades or declining to supply technical support.

All in all I would say it might be irritating, but it probably isn't worth
the short term cost saving.

You certainly can buy MapInfo off the shelf - I have seen a number of US
retailers that just ship out a box to you. You can do it on our web site,
for example, in the online shop too (though we decline non UK / Ireland
orders).

Regards

Tim

Dr Tim Rideout
Director

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[Warren Vick, Europa Technologies Ltd.]

I don't think the forthcoming price rise is anything to do with the change
in exchange rate. Two reasons:

1) The price differential should cause UK price to go down, not up!
2) The price rise is global, including the US.

It's basically a price rise across the board with no FX adjustment.

Regards,
Warren Vick
Europa Technologies Ltd.
http://www.europa-tech.com

[Ian Hull]

Is anyone else slightly concerned? MapInfo prices have remained constant for 13/14 years, PB take over MapInfo and within a couple of months the prices increase. Also, I believe, they are introducing the requirement to activate each copy of MapInfo - which is always a pain.

Regards,

Ian Hull


Systems Team Leader
Greater Manchester Transportation Unit
Salisbury House
Granby Row
Manchester
M1 7AH

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[Ian Hull]

Is anyone else slightly concerned? MapInfo prices have remained constant for 13/14 years, PB take over MapInfo and within a couple of months the prices increase. Also, I believe, they are introducing the requirement to activate each copy of MapInfo - which is always a pain.

Regards,

Ian Hull


Systems Team Leader
Greater Manchester Transportation Unit
Salisbury House
Granby Row
Manchester
M1 7AH

Internal Tel: 815 2059
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[Mats Elfström]

Hi All!

It seems that our maintenance plan agreement was of bigger value than
expected, then.
Is MI Pro 9 shipping yet?

On software pricing:
The price of software depends on what the customers are willing, or
can be forced to pay.
Unlike cars, vacuum cleaners or the like, the cost for manufacture,
marketing and distribution per unit of software is negligible.
The cost lies in the development and updating of the software, and
that cost has to be divided by the number of units sold before a
profit can be made. But how many units can you sell?
Well a lower price sells more units, but if you only expect to sell a
limited number of units, the total income may not yield any profit.
A higher price may inhibit sales, especially if there are competing
(cheaper) products.
So the scheme is to set the price as high as you dare, and the limit
is different in different markets. That's why we see differing prices
globally. Think of MapInfo as the proverbial Big Mac.
And given that the choice of GIS is only part a rational decision, but
mostly creed, the cost level can be higher than if customers had a
completely free choice.

Regards, Mats.E

2007/6/13, Ian Hull <i.h...@manchester.gov.uk>:

[Tim Rideout]

In a way you can spin it as a price reduction.

 

In MapInfo 8.5 it would be £1,095 for MI, £219 for annual maintenance and £690 for MapBasic = £2004. In the new MapInfo 9 world it is £1,495 for MapInfo, annual maintenance, tech support (25 calls) and MapBasic. Saving of £509.

 

I didn't suggest that the price rise had anything to do with the dollar exchange rate. I just said that there was a differential and I think (and it is just my view) that MapInfo don't want to cure it by reducing the price in the rest of the world, but would prefer to push up the US price. After all a lot of MapInfo personnell are outside the US (the UK I understand is nearly 20% of MapInfo's world revenue) and their costs have not gone down any just because the dollar has fallen.

 

regards

 

Tim

 

Dr Tim Rideout

Director

 

Half Price SkyView Posters at http://xyzmaps.com/acatalog/skyview_posters.html

Visit XYZ at the Cape Town Book Fair 16-19th June 2007, InterGeo Leipzig Sept 2007 and Frankfurt Book Fair Oct 10-14th 2007

The XYZ Digital Map Company

Unit 9 Phase 2 Hardengreen Business Park

Dalhousie Road, Dalkeith

EH22 3NX, Scotland, Europe

 

Tel: +44 131 454 0426

Fax: +44 131 454 0443

Mobile: +44 7766 825937

Email: tim.r...@xyzmaps.com

Web: www.xyzmaps.com

 

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Sent: 13 June 2007 15:05

[greg]

HI Graham,

  you can start with these

g

 

http://www.demarcation.org.za/- look under maps and stats - boundry data

http://www.nsif.org.za/ - look under links

http://land.pwv.gov.za/serv_products.htm

http://www.csg.org.za/spatial.htm - link seems to be down

 

otherwise contact these guys

 

http://www.quartex.co.za/

[SCISOFT]

Not only is MI first-purchase pricing and upgrades pricing in Australia out of kilter with the USA (exchange rate), but the upgrade period is 3 months shorter.

On 6 July, I was advised by an Australian distributor to get my v6.5 to 9.0 upgrade in by July 1, else I pay a price penalty.

Yesterday, an email from CMC International (no doubt thinking that the .AU in my email address means Augusta Georgia) offers me a $US price cheaper than I can get locally, with a cut-off period of 30 September 2007.

 

Customers may upgrade as far back as version v7.8. If you have a copy older than v7.8, you must purchase a "new" license not an upgrade. We will provide a "limited upgrade" period customers of v7.5 or earlier will be allowed to upgrade. Passed September 30, 2007, you will be required to purchase a new copy.

 

With that sort of deal, I’ll stick with v6.5 thanks.

Ian Thomas
GeoSciSoft  - Perth, Australia

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