On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Rastagong Librato <
rayma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Le lundi 5 novembre 2012 09:38:46 UTC+1, tayete a écrit :
>> I think it is a great idea! But, won't it become obsolete with Tiled
>> autotiles in the future?
>
> Oh, I didn't know that the automapping would change again in Tiled. Well,
> Remex will be useful until then, I guess.
The terrain tool doesn't and probably never will make the automapping
functionality obsolete. For that, the automapping functionality is way
too flexible whereas the terrain tool has a lot of limitations.
However, for basic terrain drawing the terrain tool will probably be
preferred over the use of automapping rules.
But currently the terrain tool doesn't really support RPG Maker
terrains. This is because they are rather special. They seem to be
intended for editing in 32x32 pixel blocks but the transitions are
actually 16x16 tiles. This means some terrains could work with the
Tiled terrain tool when used as 16x16 tiles, but filled area in the
middle will often be problematic since they would need to repeat a 2x2
block of tiles (so this area also always needs to be an even number of
tiles).
Remex solves this problem by blowing up the tileset to make it a 32x32
tileset containing all the combinations. It's a bit sad to use 8 times
the needed texture space, but we got plenty to waste these days and it
works. It still won't work with the terrain tool though, which is
built around the idea of assigning a terrain to each corner so it
expects 16 tiles for transitioning between any two terrains (though it
also supports tiles consisting of more than two terrains).
It would be possible to derive these 16 rather than 48 different 32x32
tiles for use with the terrain tool, but that would be at the cost of
flexibility compared to the original tileset.
I think ideally in this case, a variation of the terrain tool could be
written that works with the RPG Maker system. The map on which this
operates would need to use 16x16 tiles and the tool would need apply
the necessary restrictions.
Best regards,
Bjørn