Google moderators on Map Maker
Map Maker Guide
You might have noticed recently moderations performed by moderators
with a 'Google Moderator' tag in the profile names. These are Map
Maker team members who are helping out with moderation. You can
contact them directly and discuss their moderations by following the
steps described more elaborately here: http://maps.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=161881
With this development, we hope to bring a lot more efficiency,
transparency & effectiveness to the moderation process that many of
you had voiced concerns about.
Please note that users will continue to have the ability to moderate
and most of the moderations will still be performed by them. We will
be able to provide assistance as required and to generally help push
things along.
Thanks & Regards,
Map Maker Guide.
rjhintz
enough information to send them a message.
Case in point is Google Moderator Abdul, who approved and changed a
road segment in Phnom Penh that was questionable.
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=55&editids=eJMxKzchdoScKIYyVa&iwloc=0_0
--
Rich
Map Maker Guide
We had created profiles for all Google moderator's. But, due to a
technical glitch, the profiles are not showing up for few people. We
are working on getting this resolved now.
Regards,
Map Maker Guide.
On Dec 3, 3:17 am, rjhintz <rjhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It would be helpful if all of the Google Moderators had profiles with
> enough information to send them a message.
>
> Case in point is Google Moderator Abdul, who approved and changed a
rjhintz
And here's an example of a Google moderator with the inventive name
"Google Moderator." =P
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=55&t=h&dtab=history&ll=11.24523,104.855747&spn=0.010186,0.014527&z=16&iwloc=0_0&editids=2iuyn70qvD8Myau14P
--
Rich
Map Maker Guide
Have asked him to add a name now.
Regards,
Map Maker Guide.
On Dec 3, 6:55 pm, rjhintz <rjhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, thanks.
>
> And here's an example of a Google moderator with the inventive name
Anom
Map Maker Guide
Map data found in Google Maps and Google Earth for the countries not
open in MapMaker is sourced largely from data providers like
TeleAtlas. You can see the data provider on the bottom right corner of
the map.
Regards,
Map Maker Guide.
rjhintz
wdmanuel
How can I contact this Google Moderator? Please stop suggesting that
people mark grounds as buildings.
On Dec 4 2009, 8:54 pm, Map Maker Guide <mapmakergu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Nice catch .... keep em coming :)
> Have asked him to add a name now.
>
> Regards,
> Map Maker Guide.
>
> On Dec 3, 6:55 pm, rjhintz <rjhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok, thanks.
>
> > And here's an example of a Google moderator with the inventive name
> > "Google Moderator." =Phttp://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=55&t=h&dtab=history&ll=11.24523,104...
>
> > --
> > Rich
>
> > On Dec 3, 5:22 am, Map Maker Guide <mapmakergu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi Rich,
> > > We had created profiles for all Google moderator's. But, due to a
> > > technical glitch, the profiles are not showing up for few people. We
> > > are working on getting this resolved now.
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Map Maker Guide.
>
> > > On Dec 3, 3:17 am, rjhintz <rjhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > It would be helpful if all of the GoogleModeratorshad profiles with
Map Maker Guide
@ Rich - Thanks for the feedback. Thanks also for correcting the
feature. :)
@Wayne - You may post the link to the feature here so that we may
discuss. As mentioned earlier, due to a technical issue, profiles of
some moderators are not visible. We are working on resolving that.
Meanwhile, feel free to continue with your feedback here. :)
Regards,
Map Maker Guide.
wdmanuel
buildings.
The concept of building is for individual buildings. The items I am
trying to draw consist of several buildings and thus would constitute
as grounds.
This moderator suggested that I change grounds to building:
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=66&uid=104443414410854381803
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=55&t=h&dtab=history&ll=15.280283,120.522289&spn=0.002934,0.003251&z=18&iwloc=0_0&editids=saGZb6KjuCkXEbqOmQ
On Jan 7, 9:18 pm, Map Maker Guide <mapmakergu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> @ Rich - Thanks for the feedback. Thanks also for correcting the
> feature. :)
>
> @Wayne - You may post the link to the feature here so that we may
> discuss. As mentioned earlier, due to a technical issue, profiles of
> somemoderatorsare not visible. We are working on resolving that.
vinay
I'm new to the map making concept.
I need help please. I am currently working for a hotel group in
Mauritius and want to add there different hotels locations on google
maps.
I have already add the Shandrani Resort & Spa, but since yesterday
it's still pending.
What should I do, please help me.
Regards
Vinay
On Nov 24 2009, 11:42 am, Map Maker Guide <mapmakergu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
vinay
Thanks for approving the location, but I still can't see the hotel on
google map. Why?
I've add the hexagon as well around the area.
Thanks for your help.
I will add 9 more hotels and will let you know.
Thanks
On Nov 24 2009, 11:42 am, Map Maker Guide <mapmakergu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Map Maker Guide
Thanks for your interest in mapping hotel locations in Mauritius. Data
created using Google Map Maker continues to be updated periodically on
Google Maps and Google Earth. The following help topic lists all the
countries where Google Maps has been updated with Map Maker data:
http://maps.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=155666
We cannot commit to specific dates for this data to go live on Google
Maps due to the fact that it requires a bit of technical processing
before the data can be published on Google Maps.
Regards,
Map Maker Guide.
g.chr...@gmail.com
How are Google Moderators chosen?
I see a lot of new moderators with 26 days activity.
Pls advise those who are new to ask before denying or deleting, even more for areas that they don't know.
Two examples (Google Moderator Sravika and Google Moderator Sree Harsha, both 26 days with few edits and moderations) that are moderating in Romania, they are very very new and they don't ask before denying.
I want to become a Google Moderator - Maps Team Member at Google too, since a some time but... nothing.
Hope you chose the right guys to do this task and have them properly trained for this.
Thanks.
Cristian
rjhintz
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=55&ll=10.550286,104.290772&spn=0.002389,0.004139&t=h&z=19&iwloc=0_0&editids=iOlrfqo8q37ufVnJP9
even the original mapper agreed it should be deleted/undone, but a
moderator and, later, a Google Moderator approved anyway.
--
Rich
On Jan 29, 4:56 am, g.chris2...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello.How are Google Moderators chosen? I see a lot of new moderators with 26 days activity. Pls advise those who are new to ask before denying or deleting, even more for areas that they don't know.Two examples (Google Moderator Sravika and Google Moderator Sree Harsha, both 26 days with few edits and moderations) that are moderating in Romania, they are very very new and they don't ask before denying.I want to become a Google Moderator - Maps Team Member
> at Google too, since a some time but... nothing.Hope you chose the right guys to do this task and have them properly trained for this.Thanks.Cristian
Cristian G
Found another two "heroes" that do changes without asking and in
totally unknown area and countries:
Google Moderator Ratnakar ( Stats : 4 days , 19 edits, 52
moderations Feature edits 23) WOW !!!
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=66&ptab=0&uid=107878739774224764042&start=0&sort=
and
Google Moderator Naveen (Stats : 8 days , 14 edits, 476
moderations Feature edits 1) WOW again !!!!
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=66&ptab=0&uid=107117204028905638957&start=0&sort=
PLEASE somebody teach them how to moderate and edit and first of all
chose people with experience and minimum knowledge for being
moderators.
By the way, this two also dont know the difference between grounds and
building ;)
Thanks... again.
Regards.
Cristian
On Feb 4, 12:15 am, rjhintz <rjhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For the 1/2 roundabout in this view:http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=55&ll=10.550286,104.290772&spn=0.00...
JenMazz
Thank you for this feedback & keep it coming! We take your feedback
very seriously and will follow up with these team members to coach
them & improve the quality of their moderations.
The reason we have some team members who help out with moderation is
to make sure that edits are published in a timely manner. It turns out
that people generally edit more than they moderate, so without a some
help from our moderating team members there would be a big glut of un-
published features. That said, they aren't experienced mappers like
you guys so they are more likely to make judgment errors, which of
course we try to minimize through monitoring and coaching.
So thanks again for your patience and please continue to post when you
come across such any moderation mis-steps from our team members.
Cheers,
Jen.
On Feb 4, 4:40 am, Cristian G <g.chris2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Found another two "heroes" that do changes without asking and in
> totally unknown area and countries:
> Google Moderator Ratnakar ( Stats : 4 days , 19 edits, 52
> moderations Feature edits 23) WOW !!!http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=66&ptab=0&uid=107878739774224764042...
> and
> Google Moderator Naveen (Stats : 8 days , 14 edits, 476
> moderations Feature edits 1) WOW again !!!!http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=66&ptab=0&uid=107117204028905638957...
BuzzMapper
Please have a look at this post,
http://groups.google.com/group/map-moderating/msg/cc4f09ea6ffbb6d9?pli=1
I understand your concern too. For the map coverage in Malaysia, of
which I'm local, these moderators are making very general changes
sometimes with errors and I would find it amusing that they can
approve non-local knowledge attributes. I have a few "parachute
mappers" that admitted that they never visited or lived in Malaysia
before in their life and they are happily mapping it out with blatant
errors and also copying from other online sources.
Looking at the scenario, the map information is becoming more and more
"questionable" as these are not created by the locals. I think there
is a word that "local knows best" is true here. I would suggest that
Google seriously hire only real local of the geographical coverage to
do the moderating in order to have a more credible and trusted map
coverage.
Thank you.
BuzzMapper
rjhintz
I commented in the other thread, but I want to give some additional
perspective.
As I sit here in California, USA, I am 300km from Yosemite National
Park. I am "local" to California and a native English speaker. I
have traveled extensively within Yosemite NP, but not exhaustively,
visiting every road, path, and landmark. Can I, with my local
knowledge, provide better mapping for features I haven't visited in
Yosemite than, say, a Korean mapper who maps physical features such as
lakes and civil features such as roads and who applies a credible
Korean name where appropriate?
It is my current view that a mapper from China, for example, who could
distinguish a river, lake, pond from imagery could map these
features. Many have names that are shown in public domain sources, so
useful names could be given, too. In fact, though the US isn't
currently open for Map Maker, it would be useful for a Chinese speaker
to apply a Chinese preferred name to features.
Roads as well as civil (population centers, city halls, schools) and
commercial (restaurants, hotels) features are a bit more difficult,
but still could be mapped without actually visiting the site in at
least some cases. It's one of the reasons I've been lightly
advocating showing built up areas in sparsely settled areas, even when
the individual buildings aren't named. When one is going cross
country, it's helpful to know where towns and villages are when routes
are not well defined.
I believe in mapping accurately! I also believe that local knowledge
of many rural areas is hard to find on the internet, though it's
helpful when people who are from small towns and villages can provide
accurate details.
--
Rich
On Feb 20, 11:57 pm, BuzzMapper <lkn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Cristian,
>
> Please have a look at this post,http://groups.google.com/group/map-moderating/msg/cc4f09ea6ffbb6d9?pli=1
Dan C.
stuff:
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=44.624625,24.764471&spn=0.029078,0.059738&z=14&iwloc=7_0&gw=55&editids=YfVggxcgbCvtpIeUOq&dtab=history
Regards,
Dan C.
Dan C.
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=44.405381,24.935639&fr=0.000613,0.000858&mpp=1.706497&gw=12&ll=44.40998,24.936991&spn=0.01076,0.020428&z=16
As mentioned by others, please instruct your moderators NOT TO APPROVE
incorrect things. Or at least if they do so, ask them to make the
necessary changes once the feature is published. I'm fed up with the
"as of now, I'm approving" comments.
Regards,
Dan C.
On Mar 4, 8:14 am, "Dan C." <coyote...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another moderator that needs to read the rules before moderating
> stuff:http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=44.624625,24.764471&spn=0.029078,0....
Map Maker Guide
We really appreciate the feedback that has been shared about the
quality of moderation on this thread and also elsewhere on this forum.
These were poor moderation and the fact that these have been called
out here have ensured that we remain more vigilant going forward.
Also, what we have understood from all the feedback is to improve
moderator communication significantly to the level where both the
editor and any other subsequent moderator understand why a particular
decision was taken in a particular manner. In my opinion, that appears
to be the biggest gap and area of improvement and that's one area we
will be focusing on improving significantly.
Regards,
Map Maker Guide.
On Mar 8, 1:25 pm, "Dan C." <coyote...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And yet another one:http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=44.405381,24.935639&fr=0.000...
rjhintz
Google would share? Best practices?
Ha ha, something that might include "If someone that has 1K+ edits
comments or has a negative note, don't approve without discussion and
having credible reasons."
--
Rich
Dan C.
others did the same before) that lots of moderators approve things
knowing the features are incorrect (they often send feedback to the
author, finishing with "for now, I'm approving"). Guess what, many
authors don't give a damn about these comments and will ignore them.
So it's much safer to send feedback as comment, without approving, and
wait a few days for answer (I typically send links to the mapping
rules to every new user together with comments, and give him a chance
to undo/redo the feature properly before denying).
Heck, it looks like Google Moderators are paid on the amount of
approvals :). How about an incentive for quality approvals?
Regards,
Dan C.
rjhintz
strict, rule based approach, but the heuristics are based on
guidelines that we've developed during editing and moderating.
Presumably Google provides their new employee moderators with
guidelines they've developed. I'd be interested in seeing them, if
for no other reason than to help refine my own guidelines. (Yes, some
are in the help topics on moderation.)
Some examples of what I would expect:
--if an experienced editor/moderator comments or has a negative note
on a pending edit, don't approve until the comment or negative note is
addressed. (This raises the question of what experienced is, which
I'll try to address in a separate post on trust.)
--same for an editor/moderator who appears to be local to the area or
has current, detailed local knowledge
--don't approve a generic feature (place of worship), if a more
specific feature (church, temple) is clearly appropriate
and so on.
--
Rich
Umbraro
for an Undo-reedit, rather than approve it. It is an edit by a new
user who marked some attributes false. Looking at the attributes the
user choose it is clear to me that this was by accident and not bad
intent. By asking the user (with only two edits so far) to undo the
edit, change the attribute to correct settings and the resubmit the
feature it would be a good way to educate this user in providing
quality data. Now he may just assume that his edits were correct and
continue on that base. After some edits less of his activities in
MapMaker will go into moderation until the point where he can freely
add new information without anyone directly supervising anymore. If
the user hean still doesn't use the correct attributes, it may go
unnoticed and need a large manual cleanup afterwards to get
consistent map data again.
Not approving is especially important for edits in this part of the
world--i.e. Central Asia--because many mappers do not have much
understanding of the English languages and subtle differences between
"Popularity" and "Priority" may just go unnoticed for them. And my
experience is that many don't repair the information at all after an
edit has been approved with comments.
The feature involved can be found at
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=51.996297,70.990069&fr=0.000528,0.000858&mpp=1.470692&gw=39&ll=51.997525,70.989146&spn=0.012881,0.032659&t=h&z=16&iwloc=0_0&fid=4777852906899469373:15300194430655000776&dtab=history
Umbraro
Namik
I still notice that despite many requests by users in the discussions
to stop 'approving with comments' and start 'requesting details'
instead, most moderators, especially Google ones (ironically :)),
continue approving nevertheless. It's understood that their intention
is good because, (a) it's a matter of trust that they have on the
contributors, (b) they avoid annoying them, and (c) this way it makes
things much easier for all by having to attend to one feature only
once instead of twice or more.
However, I've noticed, at least in my area, that new contributors tend
to misuse this trust and never go back to revise features as per
moderators' comments.
Namik
On Apr 8, 12:00 pm, Umbraro <umbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just saw another edit which Google moderator Sagi should have asked
> for an Undo-reedit, rather than approve it. It is an edit by a new
> user who marked some attributes false. Looking at the attributes the
> user choose it is clear to me that this was by accident and not bad
> intent. By asking the user (with only two edits so far) to undo the
> edit, change the attribute to correct settings and the resubmit the
> feature it would be a good way to educate this user in providing
> quality data. Now he may just assume that his edits were correct and
> continue on that base. After some edits less of his activities in
> MapMaker will go into moderation until the point where he can freely
> add new information without anyone directly supervising anymore. If
> the user hean still doesn't use the correct attributes, it may go
> unnoticed and need a large manual cleanup afterwards to get
> consistent map data again.
>
> Not approving is especially important for edits in this part of the
> world--i.e. Central Asia--because many mappers do not have much
> understanding of the English languages and subtle differences between
> "Popularity" and "Priority" may just go unnoticed for them. And my
> experience is that many don't repair the information at all after an
> edit has been approved with comments.
>
> The feature involved can be found athttp://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=51.996297,70.990069&fr=0.000...
>
> Umbraro
Map Maker Guide
What you have suggested is indeed the right course of action. I agree
with Namik here that a fair feedback to new authors along side
moderation would not only help them in understanding the mapping
protocols but also keep under control the quality of the data entered.
We will definitely follow up with the moderator in question on this
feedback. While we continuously strive to improve our moderation
quality, feedback like these goes a long way in identifying key
issues.
We really appreciate your vigilance in this matter. Request you to
continue posting these errors whenever you come across them.
Thanks,
Map Maker Guide.
Umbraro
Thanks for sharing your view of the situation. My belief is that most
new editors act in good faith, but only sometimes need some guidance
in the right direction. If they receive that guidance in their first
few edits, it may give them confidence that they are not alone, but
part of a community together helping to map a better world.
Umbraro.
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Gorio
contact information, would someone please inform Google Moderator
Bienshree to stop telling others to use Sub-Locality for housing
developments and subdivisions in the Philippines. The active
Phillipine mappers have, for a long, long time now, employed strict
mapping guidelines for administrative divisions to keep the map
orderly and standardized.
Sub-Localities = Barangay ONLY (if you don't know what a Barangay is
then please look it up or don't moderate in the Philippines.)
Subdivisions, housing developments, etc. are neither City/Town/Village
nor Sub-Localities.
Thanks.
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Thanks for following up so quickly. Please follow up with Google Moderator JYOTI as well.
Map Maker Guide
Thanks for the heads-up again,
Map Maker Guide.
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@Gorio: I'll not comment on the first line just yet but do watch out
for a post in the near future ;-)
Thanks for the feedback. It would be great if you could post some
links too.
Also, thanks for your suggestions in improving the Map Maker
interface :) We really appreciate this. Please do post this on the
Issue Tracker along with a screen-shot as a feature enhancement.
@friendswebsolution: Data created using Google Map Maker continues to
be updated periodically on Google Maps and Google Earth. Please see
the list of all the countries where Google Maps has been updated with
Map Maker data, together with the date of the last update.
We cannot commit to specific dates for this data to go live on Google
Regards,
Map Maker Guide
On May 18, 10:17 pm, friendswebsolut...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have marked my company name in mapmaker it is showing ( i can see red
> balloon + name)where as if i search inhttp://www.google.com/mapits
> not showing my company name i can see red balloon only why can you help
> me?
>
greg....@hotmail.com
wdmanuel
Based on my experience, you have to have the info balloon showing so
that the specific feature is the one shown when you click on the "Link
to this page".
Cheers,
Wayne
Ajith Kumar
popescu.c...@gmail.com
rjh...@gmail.com
Hi,
I do not think I agree that no road is better than a road wrongly characterized as asphalt/good when it should be dirt/bad. Until Issue 114 is resolved, it's too hard to draw a road, then edit its characteristics. (I see this issue is not yet Accepted.)
Just knowing where a road is and whether it's local or secondary (or something else) is useful. Especially for road surfaces and characterization as good/bad, these attributes can change somewhat quickly, often seasonally.
--
Rich
popescu.c...@gmail.com
Latest map data transfer from mapmaker to maps was almost 7 months ago and counting on. So, in these >7 months wouldn't be time to add GOOD quality roads ? Why this rush for all these features to be entered even their quality is mediocre. For my point of view is a lot heavier to edit wrong data than adding new one. I'm saying this because i'm kind of tired to edit bad data entered by new users and approved by Google Moderators. And the most answered reply from them is "well .. it's kind'a wrong, but for now i'm approving." . Sure... that would be great if those users take care and re-edit what they have done wrong. But they don't in most cases. And what can I do ? Report Google Moderators ? I did that couples of times ... but .. we all know nothing is gonna' wappend. I'm sure they can't be fired for approving wrong data :)
In the final, i'm sure that they are some cases when fast mapping is really neccesarly with all negative thins from it - Relief Efforts. But this isn't global, so there should be different approaches of this issue.
Shashank Singh
I appreciate very useful discussion in the group which really benefits
to the new mapmakers. I agree with the Popescu's statement that its
better to be inexistent than approving wrong places or blindly
approving.I found the similar problem as he pointed in his mail in my
neighborhood, one fellow has marked all the road names of the city
with the name of school or famous building on that road. Now his
contributions all have been published and has more than thousand
features contribution.You can imagine now the cumbersome job of
correcting them, every correction needs approval and
discussion.Correcting poor data is painful job.
Thanks again to all of you in participating to discussion.
Shashank
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Ajith Kumar
If you think that is "riled up" then you have very thin skin my friend. I know you are trying to spark a debate but it is a debate that has been raised over and over again. Action is required. A case to case aproach is OK but if the answer is "easy to edit" and you want to approve it then YOU should fix it, otherwise you are lazy. If the answer is "difficult to edit" then don't approve it. If you are frustrated when you let incorrect information reside on the maps then why are you knowingly approving it?
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Meanhile, Aj, I never saw a re-edit from a user who entered bad data even if a moderator tell's him that. That may be, because if the feature is approved he may forget about it. But if it's denyed or at least commented with edit proposals, that may be a good approach.
I was a begginer mapper too an year ago. I have made a lots of mistakes then, I still make now... happily, fewer. Back then there weren't Google Moderators and even if the mapping was slower than now, I think it had better quality. Those users who are entering bad data , they get bored in time, but quality mappers don't, and they have to repair those mappers mistakes.
About new users, my guess is that most of them, don't read the official mapmaker guide. If they did, most of mistakes can't be made. They're the one who are lazy.
I see how moderators should follow a moderating process, but i'm starting to think that's wrong. I guess they're trained to approve in most cases and that's just plain wrong in most cases. Instead of taking a defense position perhaps would be better to train Google Moderators to "filter" more of the features, and let local moderators to approve first. It would take more time, but sure with better quality.
I appreciate your replies.
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Adam
passion for mapping and Map Maker. On the other hand, though, I must
apply one rule very evenly across the board: everyone here is
entitled to respect. While I personally know Ajith and can vouch that
he is anything but lazy, the specific person at issue does not matter;
I would equally insist upon respect for any participant in this forum,
whether staff or otherwise.
Don't get me wrong: you're fully welcome to criticize the Map Maker
product or policies, even harshly. You're similarly welcome to
disagree with the stances of other members in this forum. But I ask
that there be no impugning of personal character within this
community.
Thanks for your understanding.
greg....@hotmail.com
rjhintz
How about describing what errors you see and providing suggestions
for refinements? Just leave out the personal characterizations.
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popescu.c...@gmail.com
I'm tired to edit this kind of mistakes just because Google Moderators don't give a damn about us. I quit
popescu.c...@gmail.com
sabre23t
I just can't to this anymore. It;s the "n" times when I see a Google Moderator approve something wich shouldn't be approved. A user covers with a poliogn couples of buildings and this Google Moderator approves the thing with "hope" that the original editor will change the polygon limits.
I'm tired to edit this kind of mistakes just because Google Moderators don't give a damn about us. I quit
Mmm ... Negative note/rating on the erroneous moderation didn't help?
regards,
sabre23t =^.^=
mapmak...@gmail.com
Please accept my sincere apologies for this. Can you please point me to this feature?
I understand that this might be quite frustrating for you. But let me assure you that based on the discussions going on in this thread, we've already started taking actions on features like capitalizing names, pointer moves etc. Not only we appreciate such feedback, but are also willing to improvise our policies accordingly. Let me get back to you once I've reviewed this feature. Meanwhile, I'd request your patience in this matter while we address this concern.
Hoping that this would not deter you in your mapping endeavor.
Regards,
Map Maker Guide
sabre23t
Hi twist3r,
Please accept my sincere apologies for this. Can you please point me to this feature?
Hi MMG,
If you're replying to my reference to "Negative note/rating on the erroneous moderation"; I was referring to the "Rate the edit" feature shown in history section of an object; where you then use the option the edit "Should have been denied". I believe said rating applies to both the original edit/add and any moderations/approvals to it. Am I wrong?
Oops, you can ignore the above query. After visiting http://sites.google.com/site/mapyourworldcommunity/map-your-world/discuss?place=forum%2Fmap-moderating , I realise that GoogleGroups email interface only displayed email address popescu.c...@gmail.com but not his profile nickname "twist3r". And this long thread from 24nov09 was an interesting read.
Posting this, just in case somebody else new was reading this via email was as confused as me. ;-)
regards,
sabre23t =^.^=
rjh...@gmail.com
CNR Nair
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How do I do this?
66422228
popescu.c...@gmail.com
http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=en&fll=45.818923,22.951266&fr=0.000299,0.000429&mpp=0.832367&gw=39&ll=45.818564,22.952038&spn=0.005309,0.009463&z=17&iwloc=0_0&fid=5138198746454565133:7731154483613169120
So, the editor marks a hole area with "building" tag even if that's incorect. So what does mr. Google Moderator Bobby ?
Well .. of course ... approves it and hopes that the feature will correct itself.
So .... are u still telling me that they give a damn about what we are doing ? I mean in my region in few weeks there are dozens of features approved by Google
And btw .. since I gave few Google Moderators bad ratings for approving wrong features now they don't even bother to moderate my edits. So ... what's to do ?
I can't stay every day few hours to correct their mistakes.
ps: Can I be hired by Google to do this kind of job ? Perhaps I'll find some amusment to approve everything I see on the map.
anku...@gmail.com
greg....@hotmail.com
greg....@hotmail.com
popescu.c...@gmail.com
greg....@hotmail.com
greg....@hotmail.com
rjhintz
Actually, I don't think it's a waste of time, but it can be
frustrating. I think the experienced mappers have got the message
through to Google that more work needs to be done in this area. The
product is in an adolescent phase now. Not all our good advice gets
through.
Prabhu Goundar
Gorio, you're wasting your time, this kind of issues with GModerators had started from the day they have started to moderate, and havn't stopped since then. Every day I see lots of features they approve wrongly and nobody can stop them. Even, if you'll try to mark their edits as bad as I've been told to do, they will not approve your future good edits, and you could be stuck with them as I have. They have the power so try to stay under their line of sigth.
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dushya...@google.com
As for your other issue regarding moderators not touching your edits, that shouldn't be happening either.
I'll plan on addressing these two situations and post an update in this thread within two weeks.
Regards,
Dushyant
dushya...@google.com
There's no denying the fact that these moderation errors could have been easily avoided. We consistently strive to bring these errors to naught and information provided here on the forum, acts as our guiding light.
Such feedback reminds us that there's still a lot to be accomplished and that we shouldn't be complacent on this. Please continue posting such errors on this thread to help our moderators understand their mistakes.
This time, we would like to convey that we're taking additional steps to avoid similar errors and that over the next couple of days, we will be significantly minimizing them. We definitely hope that you will be seeing a significant difference going forward.
Thanks & Regards,
Dushyant.
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http://www.pilotfriend.com/training/flight_training/nav/ifr_checklist.htm
rjhintz
issue, which we've discussed without resolution in the past, is
determining levels of trust. (See also Issue 542.)
Presumably a checklist such as proposed, which I assume is probably in
place now, needs to consider objections from trusted users, except
that how trust in GMM is determined, changed, displayed, and audited
isn't clear.
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"Falha ao criar elemento - Não foi possível determinar um fuso horário válido para a região na qual se encontra o elemento.Corrija os erros e envia novamente ou cancele."madamc...@gmail.com
Im new on this.
like 3 months ago I edit a mapa in Margarita island and link the map to the website I was making. www.posadapuertodelfin.com them
for the firt week was working nice but them now when I click on....dosent work anymore!
If some one know why? and can help I really gonna appreciate
please answer me by mail: madamc...@gmail.com
cos I don´t know if I remember how to open this forum anymore
thanks
peace and love
rahul_does
rahul_does
Greetings!
I agree that it is not a case of all of them moderators being lazy. Misguided and dangerously half-knowledged, maybe!
If the place or the point or the feature is singular and the poster has not mentioned anything about the peculiarity of the place in the notes, then it is not the moderators who are to be blamed.
However, as in my case, what to do of moderators where clear details/'apparent incongruities' have been nicely explained, again and again and yet the maps are denied? If the user had entered something wrongly and it was explained and still the same was repeated, he/she/it must be penalized. However, if the moderator "denied" something and the user sends it back to the moderator with a clarifying note and it is again rejected on the exact same grounds, what then?
Case #1 in point, http://tinyurl.com/23vvlt5. I had to explain 2 times that this is NOT a housing development as these are houses built in the midst of forests and mountains by the British in mid-1800s for the labour of the Tea Plantation. I was again asked to provide a street number!
I shall point out only the discrepant denials that I have received as I am not that regular in working on unrelated maps, as are many users pointing out in this string.
I am, presently, adding only the locations that I have visited. This last bout of denials (on the basis of inaccurate names and numbers) was about a place where I lived and worked for 2 years.
The place was taken over by the British in 1863 and they fortuitously converted the jungle Kuduakarnam (House of the Tiger) in to Tea and later Cardamom plantations. The houses there are known only by the Designation of the Man who occupies them. Hence, another 2 time reject, my house, (http://tinyurl.com/37k5x9e).
In a radius of 50 Kilometers, ask any half knowledgeable person, where Assistant Manager, Kuduakarnam's Bungalow is and you shall be guided right to the spot that used to be my playground till 2004. (http://tinyurl.com/24vuu9g) With this denial/rejection, a flag has been raised against my name.***# Content may be spammy.# User has entered risky data in the past.***I, now, stand smeared in-front of all the future moderators! The worst is, there is no way to clarify your position.
For the nearly 10 places that I marked in that area, I got clarification seeking messages for only 2-3. I informed the moderator of the peculiar nature of addresses in this part of Earth and it all was fine. I mention some other addresses where the rejections ALL came on the same points, whereas I had clarified my position and the peculiarity of the entry in my notes.
At another of my 3rd time entry (http://tinyurl.com/2az86zs) a non- reply-able comment:- Comment 7 hours 4 mins ago by Google Moderator Remijose Hi Rahul, thanks for mapping this feature. Please try and add the complete address and the official name of the feature if there is any. Thanks again. Happy Mapping! I should have switched off the PC and sung me a lullaby rather than make all that frustrating effort and lose it all, allover again!
Did I hear someone say, "I'm tired to edit this kind of mistakes just because Google Moderators don't give a damn about us. I quit"
Anguished,
Ra.
Rohit
badwanpk
I made some changes and the moderators are not moderating. Can you please, help?
regards
teste
Support
Redwood.Dragon
I approved that yesterday... are you having any other problems?
anna
Rohit
Thanks for posting. I am sorry that you were inconvenienced in your mapping efforts.
1. With respect to the "Kuduakarnam Labour Lines" feature, thank you for your detailed comment on the edit. The moderator had suggested the 'Housing development' category as from the satellite imagery imagery it suited the group of of houses better in comparison to the 'Address/Plot' category which usually refers to a small area of land. However I would recommend that you capture the neighbourhood as a polygon under the sub-locality/neighbourhood category.
2. Regarding the other two links, I apologize for the denial without an appropriate comment. As we do not allow personal information in the the name field, I would request you to add the feature again and include the information in the description tab. If the residence doesn't have an official name you could leave the name field blank.
We really appreciate your efforts to add valuable data to maps and request you to continue the good work.
Regards,
Rohit
jptolosa87
Manicou River Resort
The case in point is that I have built and opened a Hotel and the map is not showing any buildings at all for that area, Though many have now been built.
Regards
sabre23t
Taking photos and uploading them appropriately at camera location to
Panoramio should help.
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sabre23t =^.^=
Bibhudatta Behura
google map.
On 9/19/10, Manicou River Resort <manicouri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If a map is our of date in an Editable Country and a new building is
> built, but not yet showing. How can proof be submitted that the
> building does indeed exist?
>
> I have built a new hotel and the imagery for GM there is old and
> unlikely to be updated very soon.
>
> What can I do? I exist, the hotel exists, I have photos of the
> buildings with landmarks in them. Any ideas?
>
> Link: http://tinyurl.com/2eqjd7d
>
> I have had a moderator comment that my building does not exist as it is
> not showing.
>
> Regards