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R.D. Williams points out in his note on line 70 that archery is particularly associated witth Crete.
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In book 3 of the Aeneid, Anchises also references that Crete is the home of the Trojan's 'Great Mother', Cybele. In book 10, the nymphs of Cybele, which were formerly the boats of Aeneas, will come to him as he sails and spur him to rush back in order to help Iulus in the fight against Turnus. I don't know much about Cybele, but as she is responsible for turning the boats into nymphs and the boats are responsible for spurring Aeneas forth, I can't help think that there might be some sort of loose
connection here to this goddess.
Mark.
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From: mant...@googlegroups.com on behalf of Connor, Donald
Sent: Wed 2/2/2011 12:40 PM
To: 'mant...@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: VIRGIL: Aeneid IV, 68-73
Parto toquere cydonia cornu | spicula
'o mihi nunc iterum crudelis reddite Minos,
o iterum nostrae Minos inimice senectae,
semper aut olim natae te propter eundem
aut amor insanae luctum portauit alumnae.
tene ego tam longe capta atque auecta nequiui, 290
tam graue seruitium, tam duros passa labores,
effugere, o bis iam exitium crudele meorum?
iam iam nec nobis aequo senioribus ullum,
uiuere uti cupiam, uiuit genus. ut quid ego amens
te erepta, o Britomarti, mei spes una sepulcri, 295
te, Britomarti, diem potui producere uitae?
atque utinam celeri nec tantum grata Dianae
uenatus esses uirgo sectata uirorum,
Cnosia nec Partho contendens spicula cornu
Dictaeas ageres ad gramina nota capellas. 300
numquam tam obnixe fugiens Minois amores
praeceps aerii specula de montis iisses,
unde alii fugisse ferunt et nomen Aphaeae
uirginis assignant, alii, quo notior esses,
I'm going to throw one more thing into the mix about Crete, Cybele and ditanny which might emphasize or perhaps expand in some way a point that you make in #6. In book XII of the Aeneid, Venus uses dittany from Mt. Ida on Crete in order to heal Aeneas' wound. The deer who is seeking dittany to heal itself in the Valerius Cato allusion is then taken up by Vergil in two places--the book IV simile, but also towards the end of Book XII. Perhaps Vergil is attempting to connect to that same wounded deer from book IV, i.e.: Dido and thereby the story of Britomartis, to Aeneas in some way in the end?
Mark.
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To: mant...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: VIRGIL: Aeneid IV, 68-73
uritur infelix Dido totaque uagatur
urbe furens, qualis coniecta cerua sagitta,
quam procul incautam nemora inter Cresia fixit 70
pastor agens telis liquitque uolatile ferrum
nescius: illa fuga siluas saltusque peragrat
Dictaeos; haeret lateri letalis harundo.
1. Where we remain puzzled in such a studied text as Aeneid 4, I think it's
reasonable to suspect that we're missing substantial parts of the evidence.
2. I feel sure that the main reference of Aen. 4.68-73 is to Valerius Cato's
Dictynna, although the evidence has to be pieced together from scant
remains. The influence of this poem would have been comparable to e.g.
Catullus 64, Cinna's Smyrna and Calvus' Io and it was doubtless a poem of a
similar type.
3. Valerius Cato's Dictynna undoubtedly told the story of Minos and
Britomartis. The main evidence for the content of Valerius Cato's treatment
is, I think (1) Callimachus Hymn 3.189-205, an important model; (2) [Verg].
Ciris 291-305, which likely reproduces some of Valerius Cato's own words *
verbatim* (cf. Lyne (1978); Connors (1991)). I have quoted these in full
below
????? ?? ?????? ????????? ????? ??????,
????????? ??????????? ????????: ?? ???? ?????
????????? ??? ????? ?????????? ????? ??????.
? ?? ??? ??? ????????? ??? ????? ???????? ?????,
?????? ?? ???????????: ? ?? ????? ????? ??????
??????? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ??? ???????? ???????,
????? ??? ?????????? ??? ?? ?????? ????? ??????
??????? ?? ??????? ??? ??????? ??? ??????
??????, ?? ??? ???????: ???? ????????? ???????
?????? ??? ????????, ???? ?? ???? ????? ?????
???????? ?????????, ??????????? ?? ??????
???? ?? ???????: ?? ?? ?????? ????? ??????
? ????? ? ??????, ??????? ?? ?????? ???????:
?? ???? ??? ????????? ???????? ???????? ????
??? ??????, ??? ???????: ???? ???? ?????? ??????.
???? ?????? ????? ????????, ??? ?? ?? ??????
???????? ????????? ????????? ??? ??????.
(Callimachus Hymn 3.189-205)
4.68-73 and Valerius Cato's Dictynna: DServ. on Aen. 4.73 reads: '*
Dictaeos: *Cretenses. Cervae vulneratae dictamnum quaerunt [qua gustata
ferae vulneribus tela depellunt: ut in Aen.12.414 legimus
*purpureo; non illa feris incognita capris / **gramina*]'. The commentator
Britomartis (=Diana) - (e.g. *dictamnum* can cure the arrow wounds of deer,
but there is no *medicimina* for the arrow wounds of love); (ii) we should
surely remember how Dido was introduced in Book 1, likened to Diana
(=Britomartis) (1.498-504); and (iii) it is surely relevant that Britomartis
committed (attempted?) suicide in order to preserve her chastity (compare -
Aen. 4.28-29 - and contrast Dido) to escape the unwelcome amatory attentions
of Minos.
[1] If 'iisses' is the correct reading - see Lyne ad loc.
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