[Bug 684474] New: screen reader doesn't read on the login screen
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orca
Sep 20, 2012, 8:53:55 AM9/20/12
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https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684474
orca | general | xdesktop
Summary: screen reader doesn't read on the login screen
Classification: Applications
Product: orca
Version: xdesktop
OS/Version: Linux
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: Normal
Component: general
AssignedTo: orca-...@gnome.bugs
ReportedBy: mcl...@redhat.com
QAContact: orca-...@gnome.bugs
GNOME version: ---
When I flip the 'Screen Reader' switch on the login screen, nothing happens,
orca doesn't greet me :-(
Maybe the login screen session setup is somehow insufficient for a11y to work
fully ?
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orca | general | xdesktop
Summary: screen reader doesn't read on the login screen
Classification: Applications
Product: orca
Version: xdesktop
OS/Version: Linux
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: Normal
Component: general
AssignedTo: orca-...@gnome.bugs
ReportedBy: mcl...@redhat.com
QAContact: orca-...@gnome.bugs
GNOME version: ---
When I flip the 'Screen Reader' switch on the login screen, nothing happens,
orca doesn't greet me :-(
Maybe the login screen session setup is somehow insufficient for a11y to work
fully ?
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orca
Sep 20, 2012, 8:57:13 AM9/20/12
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Matthias Clasen <mclasen> changed:
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GNOME target|--- |3.6
--- Comment #1 from Matthias Clasen <mcl...@redhat.com> 2012-09-20 12:57:08 UTC ---
Marking as a tentative blocker - having a11y work on the login screen is pretty
important.
What |Removed |Added
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GNOME target|--- |3.6
--- Comment #1 from Matthias Clasen <mcl...@redhat.com> 2012-09-20 12:57:08 UTC ---
Marking as a tentative blocker - having a11y work on the login screen is pretty
important.
orca
Sep 20, 2012, 12:07:23 PM9/20/12
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André Klapper <a9016009> changed:
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CC| |a901...@gmx.de
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orca
Sep 20, 2012, 5:36:33 PM9/20/12
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--- Comment #2 from Ray Strode [halfline] <rst...@redhat.com> 2012-09-20 21:36:31 UTC ---
Created an attachment (id=224864)
View: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=224864
Review: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/review?bug=684474&attachment=224864
data: at at-spi stuff to login session
In order for orca to work we need certain accessibility
services running. This commit adds those services.
Created an attachment (id=224864)
View: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=224864
Review: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/review?bug=684474&attachment=224864
data: at at-spi stuff to login session
In order for orca to work we need certain accessibility
services running. This commit adds those services.
orca
Sep 20, 2012, 5:36:52 PM9/20/12
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Ray Strode [halfline] <rstrode> changed:
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CC| |rst...@redhat.com
--- Comment #3 from Ray Strode [halfline] <rst...@redhat.com> 2012-09-20 21:36:50 UTC ---
something like attachment 224864 may help, but i haven't tested it yet.
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--- Comment #3 from Ray Strode [halfline] <rst...@redhat.com> 2012-09-20 21:36:50 UTC ---
something like attachment 224864 may help, but i haven't tested it yet.
orca
Sep 20, 2012, 5:54:00 PM9/20/12
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--- Comment #4 from Ray Strode [halfline] <rst...@redhat.com> 2012-09-20 21:53:53 UTC ---
Created an attachment (id=224868)
View: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=224868
Review: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/review?bug=684474&attachment=224868
Matthias doesn't think the registryd bits should be needed.
Bastien points out these files aren't going to get AutostartCondition tested
since we use gnome-session -f.
One more (still untested) round:
data: at at-spi stuff to login session
In order for orca to work we need certain accessibility
services running. This commit adds those services.
Created an attachment (id=224868)
View: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=224868
Review: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/review?bug=684474&attachment=224868
Matthias doesn't think the registryd bits should be needed.
Bastien points out these files aren't going to get AutostartCondition tested
since we use gnome-session -f.
One more (still untested) round:
data: at at-spi stuff to login session
In order for orca to work we need certain accessibility
services running. This commit adds those services.
orca
Sep 20, 2012, 6:57:29 PM9/20/12
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--- Comment #5 from Matthias Clasen <mcl...@redhat.com> 2012-09-20 22:57:23 UTC ---
Grr, I was trying to use loginctl session-status to verify that the a11y bus
was launched in the gdm session. Looks like the a11y tools manage to escape the
cgroup ?! Not sure whats up with that.
Anyway, it still doesn't work, because orca relies on autostart conditions to
get launched, see /etc/xdg/autostart/orca-autostart.desktop.
Grr, I was trying to use loginctl session-status to verify that the a11y bus
was launched in the gdm session. Looks like the a11y tools manage to escape the
cgroup ?! Not sure whats up with that.
Anyway, it still doesn't work, because orca relies on autostart conditions to
get launched, see /etc/xdg/autostart/orca-autostart.desktop.
orca
Sep 21, 2012, 6:06:59 PM9/21/12
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Matthias Clasen <mclasen> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |663721
What |Removed |Added
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Depends on| |663721
gdm
Sep 21, 2012, 6:19:41 PM9/21/12
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gdm | general | unspecified
Matthias Clasen <mclasen> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Component|general |general
Version|xdesktop |unspecified
AssignedTo|orca-...@gnome.bugs |gdm-...@gnome.bugs
Product|orca |gdm
QAContact|orca-...@gnome.bugs |gdm-...@gnome.bugs
--- Comment #6 from Matthias Clasen <mcl...@redhat.com> 2012-09-21 22:19:37 UTC ---
The patches in this bug are actually for gdm, so moving it there.
I've also added a dependency on the gnome-session bug that is the root cause.
gdm | general | unspecified
Matthias Clasen <mclasen> changed:
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Version|xdesktop |unspecified
AssignedTo|orca-...@gnome.bugs |gdm-...@gnome.bugs
Product|orca |gdm
QAContact|orca-...@gnome.bugs |gdm-...@gnome.bugs
--- Comment #6 from Matthias Clasen <mcl...@redhat.com> 2012-09-21 22:19:37 UTC ---
The patches in this bug are actually for gdm, so moving it there.
I've also added a dependency on the gnome-session bug that is the root cause.
gdm
Sep 22, 2012, 3:52:13 PM9/22/12
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--- Comment #7 from Matthias Clasen <mcl...@redhat.com> 2012-09-22 19:52:11 UTC ---
Created an attachment (id=224995)
View: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=224995
Review: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/review?bug=684474&attachment=224995
don't run gnome-session in failsafe mode
Created an attachment (id=224995)
View: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=224995
Review: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/review?bug=684474&attachment=224995
don't run gnome-session in failsafe mode
gdm
Sep 22, 2012, 3:52:41 PM9/22/12
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--- Comment #8 from Matthias Clasen <mcl...@redhat.com> 2012-09-22 19:52:36 UTC ---
Created an attachment (id=224996)
View: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=224996
Review: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/review?bug=684474&attachment=224996
add an autostart file for orca
Created an attachment (id=224996)
View: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=224996
Review: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/review?bug=684474&attachment=224996
add an autostart file for orca
gdm
Sep 22, 2012, 3:54:47 PM9/22/12
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--- Comment #9 from Matthias Clasen <mcl...@redhat.com> 2012-09-22 19:54:42 UTC ---
These are more work-in-progress patches. They rely on the patches in the
blocking gnome-session bug. Even with these, I still haven't gotten orca to
start and stop correctly. I did see orca start once, but then it didn't stop
when I turned the switch off.
It seems as if gsettings monitoring doesn't work reliably. gnome-sessions debug
log did show my that the autostart condition monitor was triggering, but it
alway saw the same value. Maybe this is somehow caused by the bus being 'off to
the side' ?
These are more work-in-progress patches. They rely on the patches in the
blocking gnome-session bug. Even with these, I still haven't gotten orca to
start and stop correctly. I did see orca start once, but then it didn't stop
when I turned the switch off.
It seems as if gsettings monitoring doesn't work reliably. gnome-sessions debug
log did show my that the autostart condition monitor was triggering, but it
alway saw the same value. Maybe this is somehow caused by the bus being 'off to
the side' ?
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