ABS as disolvable support filament?

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Zak Kus

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Jan 24, 2013, 4:50:08 PM1/24/13
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I've seen water soluble filaments (http://store.makerbot.com/makerbot-pva-1kg-spool.html)  for supports and the like, however at 90 bucks and potentially unique extrusion characteristics, it seems hard to justify getting any.

On the other hand, ABS is common and cheap, and dissolves in acetone (admittedly more expensive than water). Has anyone tried making a PLA print (which i believe is immune to acetone) with ABS for support? I imagine the main problems would be that PLA and ABS have such different extrusion characteristics (one likes heat and the other likes to be cooled), and that it may be difficult/expensive to get enough acetone to "soak" a print.

-Zak

hellphish

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Jan 24, 2013, 7:06:14 PM1/24/13
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None of the PLA I have is impervious to acetone. At worst, it melts exactly like ABS, and at best it leaves the PLA whitish and brittle.



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matmoser

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Jan 25, 2013, 4:45:34 AM1/25/13
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I second that, acetone starts dissolving PLA immediately, affecting material properties below the respective surface layer.

Darrell jan

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Jan 25, 2013, 10:01:07 AM1/25/13
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Have you heard about the 3DSystems approach? You print in ABS with PLA for support. Then you dissolve the PLA in a lye solution (carefully!) in an ultrasonic bath that they will sell you for about $1300.

Darrell

Kurt Wendt

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Jan 25, 2013, 1:49:27 PM1/25/13
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Just curious Darrell - is that the Mojo U speak of? I know of the Mojo, but, not sure if its made by 3D Systems...
 
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randyzimmer

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Jan 25, 2013, 2:10:21 PM1/25/13
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You could try Nylon and ABS

Cymon

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Jan 25, 2013, 3:05:24 PM1/25/13
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The problem I have with this is abs doesn't dissolve clean. Even with nylon you'd end up with a slurry covered doodad.

Jetguy

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Jan 25, 2013, 3:21:43 PM1/25/13
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The problem is, nylon barely sticks to nylon. How are you going to get
ABS to stick to it or vise versa?
Not saying impossible, but unless you have time and spare plastic, not
a ready made, easy answer solution.

Darrell jan

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Jan 26, 2013, 1:18:54 AM1/26/13
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Darrell jan

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Jan 26, 2013, 12:35:54 PM1/26/13
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Looked up Mojo, and it's very likely the same thing as what 3Dsystems uses.

Jeremy Green

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Jan 26, 2013, 10:06:46 PM1/26/13
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Matthew Stonebraker

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Jan 29, 2013, 8:38:27 AM1/29/13
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Good eye! And yes, quite an impressive markup. 
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