Replicator 2X is Shipping

[Jake]

Looks like they got at least one Rep 2X out the door.  I didn't receive a ship notice, so I know its not mine.  I know they were taking orders at CES, so I'm guessing that those are going out well before those who ordered on 1/11/03.  (Also they modified my order to include the free SD Card promotion on 1/17, with a new order number, but I was assured I didn't loose my place in line)

Anyway, the manual's up too, wonder how this fancy new extruder works.  Hard to tell from the line drawings.

Can't wait to get mine, even despite all the consternation about MBI in the community.  Hopefully the Rep 2 extruder is an indication that things are getting in order now!

[russel...@gmail.com]

Good to hear they've started shipping.  Today is 5 weeks for me, so I've got a bit longer to wait. 
Rusty

[funmakerBart]

Hi, were did you find that manual?

Bart

[Jake]

Manual:

http://downloads.makerbot.com/replicator2x/MakerBot_Replicator_2X_User_Manual.pdf

Blog Post Referring to Manual:

http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2013/02/25/replicator-2x-now-shipping/

[funmakerBart]

Thanks!

[funmakerBart]

And..... nothing about dual printing. When announced they promised a version of Makerware capable of dual colored printing as well. I had copied that text.

WHAT a difference between promises and what's now will being delivered IMO! 

Old advertisement:

DARE TO "DUAL": DUAL EXTRUSION 3D PRINTING

• Be ready for cutting-edge developments in filament and multi-material printing.
• Add a new level of creativity to your 3D design with interlaced colors.
• Precisely aligned dual nozzles give perfect prints in one or two colors.
• Updates in MakerWare make it easier to generate dual extrusion prints.
• Firmware improvements reduce filament reversal, retraction, and over-run, meaning more definition between colors.

and now:

DARE TO "DUAL": DUAL EXTRUSION 3D PRINTING

Add interlaced colors to your 3D designs, and make them without swapping filament or pausing your print.  

Having side-by-side extruders on your MakerBot Replicator 2X Experimental 3D Printer also means you are 

prepared with the tools to take advantage of developments on the forefront of 3D printing. 

Dual extrusion is tough; are you up for the challenge?

A very different attitude, isn't it?

Bart

[Eighty]

Huh. Looks like the new extruder is similar in concept to the upgrades from whosawhatsis, et al. Looks like there's a lever arm with a roller bearing at the end, which is held in place by a hidden spring connected to the lever lock. I wonder if the spring is a tension spring, or a compression spring. Seems like tension would make life much simpler. Somebody's gotta take it apart and post some pics!

[kyo]

I got my shipping confirmation tonight.. I ordered within hours of it going live on the website.

Kyle

On Monday, February 25, 2013 7:28:08 PM UTC-6, Jake wrote:

[Jake]

I also ordered within hours of it going live for sale on the first day. A week later they started a free SD card promo. Asked them if they could add the promo code to my order, because I was concerned that the SD card was no longer included with tge bot iteslf, but only with the promo code. I really wanted the pre-sliced models as a debugging tool (having 'known good' sliced models)

MBI told me that the promo was for an ADDITIONAL SD card of sliced models. They added the promo to my order, but in the process cancelled and regenerated my order. I was assured that I didn't go to the back of the line... But no ship notification for me so far :(

For reference, there were about 650 orders in the week between my first order on launch day and the regenerated one a week later. Wonder how many of those were Rep 2X's? :)

[AKron]

That's good to hear. My boss ordered one last week.

[SCVette]

I just got my email for my Replicator 2x shipping today, ordered first day fairly early.

Time for some ABS fun!

On Monday, February 25, 2013 7:28:08 PM UTC-6, Jake wrote:

[funmakerBart]

WRONG!

I don't want to disturb the joy of getting a new toy, but is nobody bothered with the fact that the specs still are about the same as the Replicator 1, the build platform is still carried by two vibrating plastic arms and there is no support whatsoever to print dual according the manual and the webstore?

They advertised a short while ago that's capable of dual extrusion and Makerware is capable for that. Now that's withdrawn at the site, and it's 'experimental ' again. I think that's absolute misleading to people having purchased it in an early stage.

Sure, it's enclosed, the extruder seems upgraded at least, but it's about the same rods, spindles, plastic arms, bearings and steppermotors as usual. As they are not capable to develop their own firmware, I can't imagine that the circuit board is upgraded much.

As, after experiences with the Replicator 1, they weren't capable to improve the shortcomings in the Rep 2, and, at first sight, there are still some of the same problems in the Rep 2x, a lot of disappointed users have to be expected at this forum.

Because we know the troubles they have, like we had, we are willing to help. But I think it's wrong to continue with that, with a manufacturer that's invisible on this forum, has raised 10 million dollar investment money of Amazon's Jeff Bezos, has 160 employees and sold 15.000 replicators.

Mind you: I expect the replicator is costing not half of the selling price including assembly. And we are happy when they are sending a replacement part without costs! Although that seems to be changed now, Makerbot asking sending back bad designed Rep2 Delrin extruder , before sending replacements. (a design they 'took'  from whosawhatis BTW).

I think Makerbot has proven a lack of interest in user comments, is not showing leadership in the development of 3D printer hardware, had to use designs from the community to solve their own hardware errors; couldn't develop their own firmware as they use important parts of the Sailfish firmware; wasn't capable to develop a usable slicer with Makerware with faulty support generation, and still has no own ideas for dual extrusion and what's needed to do that properly. 

With that kind of sold Replicators, employees, $10.000.000 investment money, I think it's wrong we are supporting Makerbot by restoring their design errors, giving help to new users, and even giving them free firmware to use.

Sorry Dan and Jetty, you both know I absolutely appreciate your work. It's nice to have firmware still developed for your old bot, not supported by the manufacturer anymore. Or an alternative with other features then the official firmware.

But I think it's completely wrong you are developing alternative firmware for printers that are barely on the marked. And, even worse, let the manufacturer use it in their partly closed source printers.

You both, designers of clever improvements of the Replicators, the help on every level of the community, let Makerbot get away with this.

They have to take responsibility for their designs, including own development of firmware, slicers and error free hardware.

 

I think it's simply wrong to support Makerbot on this level. Please stop providing free designs and firmware to Makerbot. 

They have to change some things to restore a healthy relationship with users and restore the balance of giving and taking between users and manufacturer.

Bart

-sorry not natively English speaking

[TobyCWoods]

I have to aree with Bart. I am worried for the 2X buyers.

and...

If I poured all my brains into code I would NEVER allow a company to profit by it without appropriate compensation for my work. 

and for what it is worth...

I WOULD HAVE GLADLY PAID YOU GUYS FOR SAILFISH!

[TobyCWoods]

Where and how can I contribute?

[kyo]

That's kinda the nature of opensource software.. everybody works on it, some people profit from it. If you all want to never support companies who do this.. never buy osx, or windows, or linux.. they all have "stolen" ideas in them.

I have never had a makerbot product before.. I'm excited about the 2x because, in theory, it can do everything I 'need' it to do. Do I expect it to be perfect? not at all.. it's a cheap piece of hardware doing the job that has historically been done by very expensive hardware. I know there will be problems, and I have no problem working to solve them. I'd have no problem if makerbot borrowed those same solutions either, if it was to the benefit of other people.

Will I always support makerbot? no idea.. depends on where the company heads in the future. As long as they are willing to work with me when I have problems, I'll probably be pretty happy. If I get ignored completely as soon as they get my money, I won't.

To each their own I guess.. but on that note, this is hardly the thread to start spouting hate in.

Kyle

[Hugh Johnson]

I'm not saying you guys are wrong but, do you know that no one was compensated for making sailfish? I don't know otherwise but they sure went from "we can't support printers we don't own" to "sailfish available for Rep1 and Rep2" very fast. 

Hugh Johnson

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[funmakerBart]

You can support Dan & Jetty's hard work on Sailfish by sending a PayPal donation to dan.n...@mtbaldy.us. on the dots dan's complete name.

@kyo, yes, except the replicator 2 and 2x are partially closed  source, regarding Makerware. When ReplicatorG development is stopped, you can't use MB printers without that software.

When MB was open source completely, I wasn't so angry. 

It was all in the game then.

Bart

[funmakerBart]

On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:28:08 AM UTC+1, Jake wrote:

[Dan Newman]

On 26 Feb 2013 , at 3:30 PM, TobyCWoods wrote:

> I have to aree with Bart. I am worried for the 2X buyers.
> and...
> If I poured all my brains into code I would NEVER allow a company to profit
> by it without appropriate compensation for my work.

> and for what it is worth…

A couple of points:

1. Jetty and I started with the existing firmware for the ToM (G3Firmware, circa Oct 2011; later
Marlin's acceleration planner, circa February 2012), and Replicator 1 (MightyBoardFirmware,
circa March 2012). All those firmwares are under GPL. Consequently, we must make freely
available the sources to works we derive from those firmwares. I suppose we could ask MBI
for money, but they wouldn't have to pay it. I suppose we could ask for 2X's, but honestly
I don't have space for it. (I have a ToM which is soon to be upgraded as per Jetguy's Type A
inspired upgrade, Rep 1 Dual, Rep 2, B9Creator, and an M2. I gave my Cupcake to my father;
a relative has a MendelMax 1.0 which I had for a while. All nice machines. I don't have
room for another.)

2. MBI did loan Jetty and myself Replicator 1s which they then gave to us after we finished an
initial port of the Jetty Firmware to the Replicator 1. (And it was more than a port; a fair
amount of work was needed to squeeze the necessary performance out of the uprocessor owing to
the doubled frequency in microstepping over the ToM and Cupcake.) Later, out of the blue,
MBI (Bre) sent us each gratis a Replicator 2 as a "Thank You" for or continued involvement
with Sailfish.

So, assuming we wanted to deprive MBI of Sailfish developments, we'd either (1) have to write
new firmware from scratch, avoiding any encumberances requiring us to post sources, or (2) stop
distributing new versions.

And, mind you, Jetty and I look over MBI's current changes to their firmware and cull the changes
for good ideas and bug fixes. So, there is some degree of reciprocity.

In summary, if there's to be new releases of Sailfish, then everyone gets free access to the sources.
That was, I would assume, the intent of the original authors -- why they put their works under GPL.

Dan

[funmakerBart]

I suppose you are right in essence , although I think the perspective is shifted after the closed source move of makerbot. The rules of the game have been changed and the agreement is of non value anymore.

They become lazy, incapable klaplopers de ~ (m) leach (the ~), sponge (the ~), parasite (the ~), scrounger (the ~), sponger (the ~) 

That new, expensive, not innovating  Moneyreplicator 2X proves it.

Bart

[Dan Newman]

On 26 Feb 2013 , at 3:48 PM, Hugh Johnson wrote:

> I'm not saying you guys are wrong but, do you know that no one was compensated for making sailfish? I don't know otherwise but they sure went from "we can't support printers we don't own" to "sailfish available for Rep1 and Rep2" very fast.

I'm not sure it was that fast. The Rep 1 Sailfish wasn't released until Oct. 2012.
Jetty Firmware with acceleration was February 2012 or thereabouts. So a good half
year apart.

But, for the record,

1. By our request, MBI gave us a Rep 1s and loaned us a second one. They later
let us keep the second one. (Yes, earlier I wrote that they loaned us two.
That was a misrecollection on my part. One was outright given to us, the
other one initially a loan.)

2. MBI, out of the blue, gave us each a Rep 2 as a "Thank You".

No monetary compensation has ever been offerred to us or given to us by MBI. Nor
have we ever asked MBI for monetary compensation.

Users from the Sailfish community have made monetary contributions to Jetty and myself
which we split and use for buying filament and supplies. There have also been some
gifts of parts such as glass plates from Adan. (Thanks everyone!)

Dan

[funmakerBart]

As said, and explained by Dan, the Sailfish team has no substantial benefit. 

So no questions about their intentions. 

But I don't understand why there is already alternative firmware available for a printer that's not even received by customers yet. 

When I owned Makerbot, I would  have fired my developers and coders to make even more money.

Hell! I would even sell Printers without firmware! 

It's free out there: even firmware only usable on my own brand printers! 

Why should you do that?

[Dan Newman]

On 26 Feb 2013 , at 4:54 PM, funmakerBart wrote:

> As said, and explained by Dan, the Sailfish team has no substantial
> benefit.
> So no questions about their intentions.
>
> But I don't understand why there is already alternative firmware available
> for a printer that's not even received by customers yet.

You mean Sailfish 7.1 (and now 7.3 in beta)? It's anyone's guess whether
it works correctly on a 2X. However, I suspect it does. It's available
since it's the same source code for a Rep 1 single, Rep 1 dual, Rep 2, and
Rep 2X. Between a Rep 1 Dual|Single and Rep 2|2X, there's different binaries
since (1) there's differences in which I/O pins are used on the ATmega's, and
(2) extruder temps are measured differently. However, the same binary is used
for both a Rep 2 and a Rep 2X. So, if Sailfish is available for a Rep 2, then
it's available (but untested) for a Rep 2X.

Dan

[funmakerBart]

Ok, when you don't have a problem with it, I shouldn't either, although my emphatic unfairness meter is at max value.

[Bottleworks]

What are you trying to do with your negative and toxic Attitude? The posters were trying to express Their excitement that their2X has shipped. You come in here with your off topic negative rants. Stop acting like a toddler. Grow up.

[funmakerBart]

You are right I should have chosen a separate post. Sorry about that.

As you should know I  try to share things I learned with the community, as well trying to develop new setups regarding other slicers and dual extrusion. 

I try to help others with questions, as far as possible for me. General I think my attitude is positive and grown up.

I have some hesitation with especially you, blaming me for my rare explosion, as you are making money with improved parts for Makerbot printers. 

Would be nicer a non befitting person had called me to order.....

Bart

[reboot911]

On Monday, 25 February 2013 21:37:59 UTC-5, funmakerBart wrote:

And..... nothing about dual printing. When announced they promised a version of Makerware capable of dual colored printing as well. I had copied that text.

 

 

Dual Extrusion with MakerWare

 

http://www.makerbot.com/support/makerware/documentation/dual/ 

 

heres the web link to the makerware doucumentation on dual extrusion printing

[Wingcommander whpthomas]

Hey Bart,

I dig the passion, but keep it polite and courteous and we will all get along. I think its fine to tell us about your own first hand experiences with stuff - or offering suggestions and help to others, but I don't think we should be telling others what they should or shouldn't be doing, purchasing, thinking. There are lots of factors that go into the decisions we make - your reasons for believing whatever you do are unique to your personal circumstances - its part of what makes participating in this community so interesting - but I agree with Bottleworks sentiment (even if I might have worded it more kindly).

BTW: thanks for posting the Kisslicer ini files I plan to tinker a bit this weekend.

[Bottleworks]

Ok. Because you bring it up, Lets review what I've done. I had an issue with my bot. Instead of complaining about it and telling people not to buy a replicator, I worked on a solution. I created a solution with the intent of fixing my bot. Because of how wide spread the issue is, I offered the solution to the community. FYI, I don't make much on each set of arms. It covers the time I have invested in the production.

So, lets talk about what this forum is for. It's to help people find solutions to the issues that they have with their bots. Complaining doesn't help people find solutions to their problems.

I apologize to the thread starter. It now no longer has anything to do with what you were talking. I hope you enjoy your new 2x and the community will be here to help with any issues.

[Eric Bates]

Back to the topic:) Just checked the tracking info and mines set to arrive tomorrow at noon. Can't wait!!

[Jetguy]

Pics, FULL review, and teardown required.

[Bottleworks]

+1! Especially of that new heated build platform.

[Wingcommander whpthomas]

+2 extruder and HBP!

[boardworks]

+1 for my vote to ask those who relieve their 2X to share pics, unboxing videos and any/all details about dual extruders working on the bot! I had ordered the CubeX (dual extruder model, http://cubify.com/cubex/) whilst at CES and have been awaiting ordering the Rep 2X based on the challenges I've had with my Rep 2. I just sent my bot back to MBI after the extruder melted down within itself after the temp sensor failed during a print, and for the record, the MBI folks have been awesome in commuting to expedite the repair. I'll be sure to report back on the Rep 2 repair experience on another thread (including pictures of the devistation before sending off for repair) but please do share as many details on your hands-on experience with your new, shiny 2X's! :)

[sjlane7160]

Stephen Lane wrote:
      I note in the 2X manual the files included on the SD Card include some some that are Dual Extrudable I would also note that the makerware documentation referenced must be a new version of makerware (in fact it has to exist because we all saw the youtube demos of the CES dual extrusion work & there is an extra button on the left hand side of the screen which is involved in the dual extrusion functions) & the pics in the referenced docs show options that arn't avail in the current release of Makerware so it is only a matter of time before it is released surely - I would assume MBI will get it into the hands of the 2X owners as soon as possible or the whinging will commence.

Regards
Stephen

[KM Design]

The Replicator 2X page says the it ships with the Makerware 2.0 bundle. The current version of Makerware is 1.1.2. (The Replicator 2 page still says it ships with the Makerware 1.0.2 bundle.) There is also documentation for using dual extrusion on the Makerware support page.

KM

[Jetty]

First off, I'd like to say thank you to everyone who has donated upgrades and money. 

Although both Dan and myself do the work for no pay, the generous donations we get

help to pay for things like filament (which we get through a lot of when testing).

Sailfish and MBI's firmware is open source, so I choose to spend time on it.  

Having used lots of open source products and designs over the years which others have 

created, it's fair to contribute where I have the skills and have the time.

Additionally because I own 3D printers and write software, it's an incentive to improve

them where I believe they can be improved. 

Passionate discussions like this can upset people and as MBI have helped out

with resources in the past which are directly responsible for the creation of Sailfish for

the Rep1 and Rep2, a discussion like this could effect that relationship which

would ultimately end up effecting end users with older and newer bots that which

to run Sailfish.

Not that I agree with everything that MBI does (or any company), but it's their business

and ultimately they run it as they see fit.

[funmakerBart]

@whptomas e.a., you are right,  I normally don't have outburst like this. But after a year dual print frustration there was a border crossed apparently. Sure not wanting to be that impolite as I appeared. In a (small) defense: the Dutch have a very direct communication style, often seen as rude. I'm sure  the words I choose to make myself (too) clear were even more rude in the ears of natively English speaking persons. So, forgotten and relearned by this, emotional outburst mustn't be directly online, but have a rest before outing them. I should have been more aware that explicit, vivid words have to be avoid because of the difference in perception in different cultures.  

So, sorry everyone, please forgive me, and maybe we can discuss another time about some of that issues. I shall behave...

Bart

[Eric Bates]

Mine just arrived 30 seconds ago!!

I'm in the middle of a move so it will be a few days till I open it...

Can't wait.

[Eighty]

Well, you should at least open the box and make sure you didn't get a dead parrot!

[Eric Bates]

Confirmed, no dead parrot!!

[nickythegreek]

The video link isn't directly available on the Rep2x site, but it was mentioned in the manual and appears to be lice.

http://www.makerbot.com/support/replicator2x/videos/

[Darrell jan]

Oh, now it's lice instead of parrots? Or the parrots have lice? ;)

[nickythegreek]

:O er live. haha

[SCVette]

I just got most of mine too. I did not receive the plastic lid that suppose to be in a seperate box. It did not arrive. The main bot parts are working on its first dual extrusion print of the dragon and egg model.
Not sure about the platform though, I will have to try some larger prints, but my drafting ruler says it droops on the edges.

 

On Monday, February 25, 2013 7:28:08 PM UTC-6, Jake wrote:

Looks like they got at least one Rep 2X out the door.  I didn't receive a ship notice, so I know its not mine.  I know they were taking orders at CES, so I'm guessing that those are going out well before those who ordered on 1/11/03.  (Also they modified my order to include the free SD Card promotion on 1/17, with a new order number, but I was assured I didn't loose my place in line)

Anyway, the manual's up too, wonder how this fancy new extruder works.  Hard to tell from the line drawings.

Can't wait to get mine, even despite all the consternation about MBI in the community.  Hopefully the Rep 2 extruder is an indication that things are getting in order now!

[SCVette]

After a quick 30 minute setup, then 1hr 11min later, my first ABS dual extrusion print on the new Replicator 2x printer completed.

[Andy]

Pretty cool.

Do you feel like printing again with black abs and white or natural abs?  I'd like to see how it compares to my first dual color print on the rep1.  

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9rffndpat41tzxn/Photo%20May%2018%2C%209%2044%2014%20PM.jpg

This is an image of my first 4 prints ever.  This is on a default, fresh out of the box Rep1 with MBI business card leveling.  I removed a ton of dangling extrusion noodles from the sides of that cube before this picture was taken, so if your prints are already looking this good without part of the enclosure, this could be a good sign.  Just curious, what is the layer height of the print in the pic?

Thanks,

-Andy

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[SCVette]

Andy,

I'll throw some black on tomorrow and try some of those tests. The dragon/egg was done right off the included SD card, before I even had my server booted up, so I dont know its sliced settings. Seems like the Makerware med setting or so. Also done with the Makerware firmware 7.1 that came installed on printer.

 

When doing a dual extrusion model(at least the dragon), the printer does this wierd pause when it stops and thinks about moving to the other extruder. I jump and wonder wtf happend to the print, then it continues after a few seconds of just sitting there.

Something to get used to, I guess. It breaks the rythym that Im used to with the Rep2.

 

Thanks,

Taylor

[kyo]

I just set mine up as well.. took maybe 20minutes to set up, another few to cool down because I forgot to apply the tape.. then printed the little 2 color pendant, looks great.

I can 2nd that there is a really oddly long delay between switching extruders.. like it's thinking about it for a few seconds.

Also, my extruders are not the same height. I noticed a slight variation when leveling the bed, figured it wouldn't matter too much.. but it causes one of the extruders to drag through the other color when entering. It isn't horribly noticeable in the final product, but it's there.

Will have to fiddle more tomorrow, so far I'm pretty happy with the success I've had with it.

Kyle

[kyo]

Oh, when I got mine I also didn't realize the switches on the extruders needed to be in instead of pointing out.. I guess they left them open by accident when removing the test filament, so it took me a minute to figure out why it wasn't feeding at all without my pressing on it.

Kyle

[happyman]

How is warping issue handle with Rep2X when print with ABS? Does new designed HBP together with the enclosure, really does its work well?

[Popcorn]

can someone of you who recieved a rep2x upload some pictures of the the new extruder design dissassembled ?
cheers :)

[Popcorn]

i fully understand that your first print is more exciting but maybe afterwards ;)

[happyman]

You can download the user manual from makerbot website, there will be a diagram showing the inside of the extrudder - seem like a mod that found in Thingiverse in my opinion.

[Popcorn]

the problem is you cant see really how it works exactly in the drawing because its just a drawing from the outside not from the insides. it would be awesome if someone with a rep 2 x could dissasemble the extruder bit so we can see what they changed. :)

[Jetguy]

More important than even that since we understand the extruder have
they "fixed" the major failure areas of the Replicator-2?

Did they change the cable material or mounting for the X ribbon
cables?

Did they use the same plastic arms and mounting system for the new
heated bed?

Is there added insulation or other material to the bottom side of the
heated bed to keep from heating the arms?


Those are the really important questions as to if Makerbot is about
improving the product or just selling it and taking the chances. I
just listed known problems that could be fixed easily at manufacture
and should NEVER break in a production bot at this stage of the game.
Especially when the community has done the work for them.

[Andy]

Did I miss the thread where someone posted pics of the HBP power connection? I would love to see if/how that has changed.

-Andy

[Andrew Russell]

Finally had a chance to look at this manual.

1.  The glossary of terms is awesome.  If we had a FAQ, I would include a link to this PDF mentioning specifically this section.  It helps us all have a common (proper) terminology.  It took me several months to learn all the names of the parts, and I'm still learning a new one each time I read this forum.

2.  The troubleshooting section is nice.  Some of the listed questions show up on this forum. I'm sure I've posted at least one of them in the past.

3.  I like how there is a section for using Makerware. 

4.  I was surprised to see that the rep2x needed periodic lubrication, like my Rep1. I thought this was no longer necessary on the Rep2 with its brass oil infused bearings. Though, its just the z-threaded rod and the x-axis idler pulley.  Maybe this is the same for the Rep2 and I just missed it.

-Andy

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Jake <jbor...@gmail.com> wrote:

Manual:

http://downloads.makerbot.com/replicator2x/MakerBot_Replicator_2X_User_Manual.pdf

Blog Post Referring to Manual:

http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2013/02/25/replicator-2x-now-shipping/

On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:18:52 PM UTC-5, funmakerBart wrote:

Hi, were did you find that manual?

Bart

On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:28:08 AM UTC+1, Jake wrote:

Looks like they got at least one Rep 2X out the door.  I didn't receive a ship notice, so I know its not mine.  I know they were taking orders at CES, so I'm guessing that those are going out well before those who ordered on 1/11/03.  (Also they modified my order to include the free SD Card promotion on 1/17, with a new order number, but I was assured I didn't loose my place in line)

Anyway, the manual's up too, wonder how this fancy new extruder works.  Hard to tell from the line drawings.

Can't wait to get mine, even despite all the consternation about MBI in the community.  Hopefully the Rep 2 extruder is an indication that things are getting in order now!

--

[Andrew Russell]

The cube in my pic is also off the SD card.  I have no idea about the layer height.  :) I would guess something between .2 and .3mm

I wonder if the pause is a temperature change for one/both of the hot ends, to reduce the excess idle extrusion?

I havent played with the new MBI firmware or makerware to see if it has some special g-code sauce when slicing for dual-extrusion.

-Andy