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After reloading a different filament, my stepper starting clicking (Wingcommander upgrade installed), filament was dotted across the plate on the perimeter. I assumed a clog, and proceeded to go through the standard toothpick/ .4mm drill clearing process. Three times. A small piece of burnt filament was extruded, but the stepper still clicks, and still filament curls out the nozzle. I am still assuming a clog, but can this be that the heater block is not coming up to temperature? What attempted to print was very stringy and thin, as if there is not enough pressure or the filament is too cold. The LCD is giving me a 230C/230C reading.
Thanks in advance.
1) without the expertise of all of you on this forum; there is no way I would have been happy with this product - and there is no way I would feel comfortable diving into repeated disassemblies of a $2100 machine with no real owner's manual.
2) the more I disassemble it, the more concerned I am with unintentionally breaking something I can't fix. Robust design does not describe it. Just like the X-axis control wire/rollpin issue, the thermocouple wires are bent at a 90 degree without support - and both wires were barely holding in the buss on the motherboard.
While the heater block is loose, I'll remove the nozzle and burn it out; and tighten the thermocouple wires. I'd like to post a picture of the heater block, though, because looking at it, I'm not sure (should I have to down the road) how the brass fitting works. Do you loosen it at the hex head?
I know I've read some folks have just printed something at temps up to 245C to clear out clogs...if that is recommended, how long a print is safe before overheating the extruder upgrade?
And again, as this is one of my first troubleshooting posts after lurking for 3 months, let me take the opportunity to thank everyone for all the support. I'm sure I speak for a large, silent crowd of fellow lurkers - this forum has been the absolute best part of the Makerbot experience. Ya'll are some bright people!
Not sure I'm picturing your idea well enough. I'd love to see pics and hear how the experiment goes.
There's a cooling fan. It cools a heat sink. The heat sink blocks the things we want the fan to cool: the filament, stepper motor, drive gear, and the plunger assembly or extruder upgrade.
John, I am going to step in here and attempt to correct your mental model of what you think is going wrong here.One has to learn to be forensic - i.e. you start without a theory and attempt to rule out possible causes systematically. If we start with a theory, that we try to confirm, we risk confirmation bias in our diagnosis.I have observed that the stepper motor, even when its is too hot to touch, has never been hot enough to cause the filament to actually soften and fail - except when I had a problem with KISSlicer turning the heatsink fan off - which was the only time the filament has gone soft all the way up to the drive gear.In my experience, heat soak causes problems further down in the heat chamber, somewhere between the heating block and the cooling block, causing the filament melt to happen higher up than the tip, causing it to push up the sides and jam.
My Rep2's Thermocouple has been increasingly failing, and it died big time earlier this week. Since I was bot-less and bored, and I've been an electrical engineer for a LONG time, I decided to take the thing apart and see what was wrong and what could be fixed. Let me preface all of this post by saying that I am basing this off of a sample set of ONE. Your bot might be different.A thermocouple is basically two wires of different types of metals. At the business end the wires are welded or soldered together. The other end of the wire is connected to a circuit that does special stuff to measure the voltage given off by the business end. Of course this is a massive oversimplification, but the idea of two wires bonded at one end is fairly accurate.What's wrong with the Rep2's Thermocouple:The standard Rep2's thermocouple is made by stripping the wire so the last 1 or 2 mm is bare, and twisting the ends together. This bare end of the wire is stuffed into a brass-bolt looking thing, crimped down (the bolt-thing is deformed), some heat shrink is put over it so it looks nice and offers a little bit of strain relief. The bolt-thing is then screwed into the heater block of the extruder.When a thermocouple fails, MBI tells you to "relieve the strain on the thermocouple cable". Other people on this forum will say thing like, "the wires got pinched against the motor and broke".Let me say that in my case the thermocouple wires were not broken or stressed. What failed is the twisting of the two wires at the business end of the thermocouple. Remember the description, above, that a thermocouple wires are welded or soldered together? Well, MBI just twisted the wires together. I measured the electrical resistance between the two wires as an open circuit (greater than 20 mega-ohms). Although clearly the wires were tightly wound together, they did not make an electrical connection! I am not a metallurgist, but I am assuming that the wire got corroded or otherwise oxidized. The last 3mm of the wire does have a slightly different color to it, but I cannot say what the significance of that is.Just for grins, I cut off the last 1 cm of thermocouple wire, stripped it, and looked for breaks. I found none. Using the multimeter and my fingers I inspected the rest of the wire for breaks and found none.My conclusion is that the design of the Thermocouple is faulty because MBI didn't bother to make the thermocouple correctly. They twisted the wire instead of welding or soldering it like responsible engineers.How it could/should be done:Of course it should have been welded or soldered. But the other failing is that it is just jammed into this brass bolt thing. There is an air-gap between the thermocouple and the brass that will reduce the response time of the temperature sensor. Also, the crimped part could damage the thermocouple cable if not done with care.
A better solution would have been to use a thermally conductive epoxy to completely fill the cavity within the bolt. I have not looked to see if there is a thermal epoxy that can withstand 250+ deg C. And then put some heat-sink goo in the hole that the brass bolt thing screws into.
Oh, and MBI should never be telling people that "stress on the cable" is involved. That's just silly, wrong, and a bit of a lie.How to repair a faulty thermocouple:Disassemble the thermocouple by removing the cover over the motherboard on the underside of the bot. Unscrew the terminal strip (green thing with wires and screws on/in it) that releases the wires. Cut the zip-ties along the black sheath that holds the wires to the gantry. Remove the thermocouple wire from the sheath. Next, remove the extruder from the gantry. Loosen the two Phillips screws on the left side that hold the filament fan in place, and remove the shroud/air-guide-thing. Then remove the two screws on the underside of the extruder with the Allen wrench. After that the extruder just lifts off of the gantry.Carefully unscrew the brass bolt-thing from the heater block. Cut off the black heat-shrink tubing. With a pair of pliers, carefully un-crimp the wire from the bolt. Do this by applying pressure in the correct areas to make the crimped section circular instead of flattened. Remove the wire from the brass bolt-thing.Cut off about 1 cm of the wire and discard. Strip off about 2mm of the insulation, leaving the bare metal of the wires behind. Strip off the outer insulation (looks just like clear Kaptan tape), leaving about 2-4mm of the red and yellow insulation of the wires exposed. With a pair of pliers (or two), carefully and tightly twist the exposed wires together.Check the resistance of the thermocouple by using an ohm-meter from the far end of the wires. In my unit I measured 30 ohms. I would not be alarmed if you measured up to 100 ohms, but I would hope yours is close to 30 ohms as well.Stick the twisted end back into the brass bolt-thing and re-crimp using a pair of pliers. Then reinstall everything. Make sure that when you reconnect at the motherboard that you put the yellow wire into the part that says "yellow", and red into the part that says "red". You can use more heatshrink if you want. I didn't.I consider this solution to be temporary because the twisted wires are just going to go bad again. But at least now you can fix it in the middle of the night and you don't have to wait for 1+ weeks for MBI tech support to tell you to relieve the stress on your cables.