Please bear with mme

[John Borlaug]

In between my showing my 2X can go to higher temps,and learning all the new language of you pros, I remember resetting a um from some 35gazillion number to a smaller number, and asked the maker ware to reset to factory defaults etc, I finally ran a start from beginning to end.I got this calibrete dual extrude, and now, I am letting the 2X cool off- I usually leave it turned on, but looking @ the X wire upgrade from last summer, felt that the steppers were 'warm'- so I put it to bed.

Now a couple things that I did do, when I caused all this confusion to myself- and all of you, was" detuned" to 7.4on my "uprade firmware" command with the Lenovo. ( all these things started happening after I 'plugged in' on USB- I had been using the Lenovo to transfer from mu gig stick from the Mac, to the Lenovo, then let the lenovo write to the SD card and run all items that way. I know I caused some confusion, so any input is helpful there! I also spent some bucks getting linked up with my Google+ and Captain Canardly Concepts- of which as normal- this mwar on me has stolen too much 'learn a new trick' I need to do!

One question as the Walking Dead return:

What are thos um numbers, and do I need to change- and re write the proper number to get my left exrruder to behave itself? or is the X wires?

Thanks all! Johnny

[Ryan Carlyle]

Set your nozzle offsets to zero using firmware preferences in RepG or Makerware. That will get you close. Then redo the alignment/calibration test with the lines, and pick the best line. Enter the number of the best line ONCE. It will look like it didn't stick, but it did. Then try a dualstrusion print and see how it looks.

[John Borlaug]

Thanks Ryan! from my original setup, I have the number 7 in both locations, so will do the other reset now!

[Ryan Carlyle]

It always shows 7. That's just an input screen, it doesn't show you what the offsets are.

[John Borlaug]

OK ( Ryan) I've tried four uninstalls, reloads etc, from7.3- a-200Um,versions 7.4-5is @ zero, I need to go through some of my stuff during my "printaThing test, as I had the left extruder going off the plate, easy fix, but I fotgot how I did that- then the duals started missaligning. I did find, that a reset for (tool1)@ 3500000000 sent it to the Y home stop. sure wish these had buttons like a CNC! :D more diggin- Do I understand an upgraded slicer is done ( new slicer ( too broke for 3DS, now) = new slicer> GPX> install to bot?

[Ryan Carlyle]

The firmware should interpret 35mm and 0mm the exact same way. 35mm is the nominal nozzle spacing, anything other than that is manufacturing error. So the firmware will parse the number as a relative offset if it is close to zero or it will parse the number as an absolute spacing if it is close to 35mm. 

If you ever get the offsets totally screwed up, you can always do "reset motherboard completely" and it will reset EVERYTHING to safe default values. 

What are you wanting in a slicer? Makerware is fine, actually one of the best options for dualstrusion. I would probably avoid mucking around with other slicers and GPX until you get really comfortable with the bot. That way, when you run into issues, you can tell if they're "normal behavior" or some weird slicer/GPX issue. Even S3D can have some glitchy behavior when it does its internal call to GPX to output the x3g file.

[John Borlaug]

I was thinkin' that I really didn't need any 'extra' infos, so I searched all my extra dloads/dmg's and found some of the 'hidden'library stuff and ground them into vapors- now I'm going to look into the 'filter' part of the program- I can't locate the 'reset motherboard' Thanks for the great instruction! learning a lot last couple days! ( by doing)!:D

[Ryan Carlyle]

You can reset from the LCD screen.

[John Borlaug]

Holy Smoke Ryan ( And Sir Newman! You fellas have the patience of a true saint!I found ( mostly via google operators' in a search= how to reset Motherboard, and Where is the eeprom? Since our last visit, as I had made one size adjustment on y Printathing test to the dual size-now as I go between the R2, 2X and Dual, each box shrinks a touch.I also found that according to "good ol days" that the reset on my LCD, is deeper than the 'reset motherboard" which aas I understand, is with an external (RepG program running.> which will attach to a file location in the windows ( I'm a rookie there! Now, as I had removed the example files from my SD card, and learned that's where they live, I'm wondering if I simply reattach the ( un touched) Example files< would that reconstruct my missing datas?- oh yeah- when I check on board prefs within the 'dual' screen, I just told me - goofy old Norwejian- ya think i'm gonna do that?!:D

https://github.com/makerbot/MightyBoardFirmware/blob/master/firmware/src/MightyBoard/Motherboard/EepromMap.cc

[John Borlaug]

OK Gang ( Dan and Ryan) I guess it's afew weeks ago now, I very slowly ( with nreves of rusty steel)changed out my heater block,and have made 94 bucks on a few parts, right side extruder.this weekend, I tried out a twin run, and first got a smash into the X Home end. I reset the 35000 to a hegative number, and got an 'OK- that is: the above references for a place to start- the X being off again, I tried resetting the firmwares witha 'detune to 1.27 in the Lenovo,running with 1.35 on the Mac for basic file structures,so I tried an upload from my snow Leopard @ 2.4 1.24, and tried the other settings to reset during my Print aThing test, which found my actual size to be 229 mm instead of the ( 285 or 246 which I got as stock. according to what I've been researching with my posts, and the "Not Sailfish story" could the busticatedX wires cause the confusions on the stop slamming whether my tool one  set to zero = no crash on Right side,but a crash on Left extuder running) into the X- stop? or did I totally screw up ( corrupt) as Scott said, with all my uploadings?the only thing I can validate from (my) memory, is 600 hrs before I "upgraded"firmware,and have had about 7 other 'new machine conditions since then. here's the log from the Parent Mac, ( I don't know how to get into the Lenovo log file location- (I'm a pure beginner Windows(7) search functionations.

Thanks Guys!

[Dan Newman]

On 30/03/2015 4:26 AM, 'John Borlaug' via Makerbot Users wrote:
> OK Gang ( Dan and Ryan) I guess it's afew weeks ago now, I very slowly (
> with nreves of rusty steel)changed out my heater block,and have made 94
> bucks on a few parts, right side extruder.this weekend, I tried out a twin
> run, and first got a smash into the X Home end. I reset the 35000 to a
> hegative number, and got an 'OK- that is: the above references for a place
> to start- the X being off again, I tried resetting the firmwares witha
> 'detune to 1.27 in the Lenovo,running with 1.35 on the Mac for basic file
> structures,so I tried an upload from my snow Leopard @ 2.4 1.24, and tried
> the other settings to reset during my Print aThing test, which found my
> actual size to be 229 mm instead of the ( 285 or 246 which I got as stock.
> according to what I've been researching with my posts, and the "Not
> Sailfish story" could the busticatedX wires cause the confusions on the
> stop slamming whether my tool one set to zero = no crash on Right side,but
> a crash on Left extuder running) into the X- stop? or did I totally screw
> up ( corrupt) as Scott said, with all my uploadings?the only thing I can
> validate from (my) memory, is 600 hrs before I "upgraded"firmware,and have
> had about 7 other 'new machine conditions since then. here's the log from
> the Parent Mac, ( I don't know how to get into the Lenovo log file
> location- (I'm a pure beginner Windows(7) search functionations.

John,

I really have no idea what those numbers are you're talking about: resetting
a 35000 to a negative number, that 1.27 and 1.35, etc. You may be talking
about values shown by MakerWare for "machine onboard parameters", but if
so which values.

But I can tell that you seem to be doing a dualstrusion print on a Rep 2X
and discovering that you have less build area. That's normal: you lose
approximately build area along the X axis.....

When you home the X axis, that's sending the right nozzle all the way
to the right. To the X position +152 mm. HOWEVER, you can only send
the right extruder to that position. You cannot send the left extruder
to that position as it means moving the entire carriage to the right
an additional 35 mm. It cannot move to the right an additional 35mm.
Now, to the left you can move to roughly -150 mm with the LEFT extruder.
But you cannot move the right extruder to there since that requires moving
an additional 35 mm to the left. Net, net, the right extruder cannot print
as far to the left as the left extruder. The left extruder cannot print
as far to the right as the right extruder. Overally, you experience
a reduction in the printable X space when you attempt to use both the left
and right extruder for the same print. If you attempt to use just the
left extruder, then you have a large print you can find that you need to
move your print a bit to the left in order to ensure that the left nozzle
can reach it at the right extremes.

Hopefully this makes sense. And MBI doesn't really talk much about this
when they advertise the build volume of the Rep 2X. Indeed, when the Rep 2X
first came out, there was a European distributor who caught some flak
over that.

Dan

[John Borlaug]

Short stoty: Thanks Dan, I understand that: let me get back here tomorrow, as when I got on this page @1q400 Central, Lady walking dad, dad stopping @ hospital for what seemed to be a stroke happeming. more when I wake up. Thanks Travis ( replied via email) to a search engine for a Windows ( I think the log shown is basically useless, as it is not linked directly to the 2X. More later- Johnny machine

On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 8:07:31 PM UTC-6, John Borlaug wrote:

[John Borlaug]

OK Thanks for your patience, Gang!here's yesterday's sequence of events:

1400 called makerbot, with a support case for XY Cables/end stop cables. (She) moved my warranty date to cover it- they are in the mail.

Came here to this location, as lady was requesting a time to 'walk the dad' of which she got to play with a friend 500yds away in the 'frontyard' of the local hospital.

Upon standing up from goofin' around in the grass, I got that "oops- got up too quick" dizziness, but this tyme, my left leg wasn't doing what my brain told it to do.One of Lady's and my friends had started a walk, so we slowed down to talk /play with her. I said  "i'm not sure, but I think I might be having a stroke" She flagged down a driver coming into the Emergency entrance to the Hospital, and asked if he would drive me to the front door, and she would take lady home for me.

during 6 hrs of MRI/orbital X rays( looking for any stray chips that may be in my eye from machining) we got the go for an MRI and some daydreaming. during this time, I remembered the I could find the Log to the "active" usb connections, ( Kobus gave me the reply for the search engine in the Lenovo via email reply) MRI said all is fine, except a severe sinus infection, which I guess will stop all kinds of brain to bod- beyond "normal" dizziness.

so now, I'm @ 80% functional, and can even track my my bad typing!

on the log title:2.4-1.35, that is the log file from my Mini Mac, which I construct to X3G to go to the SD card.via usb stick from Mini Mac to lenovo.

( Moving to the prior wknd now)

During my Print a Thing test, I found one hassle with the sizing, being (pic 1- problem solved) during the weekend, I got visited by 4 kids wanting some 'gifts' printed,and in the process, tried a dual extrude.

I was so flustered with 6-10 yr olds, that i forgot to set the tool 0 parameter to - 350000u's and would crash either end of the stops.I then modded the (285)X dimension to 244 and tried 229, as per pic,with x stop crashing on the left end.

The Lenovo is running 2.41.27 in the ( about) number of makerware, talking to a version 7.5 on the bot.I then tried a usb print, which simply gave me a start with the tool zero being +350000 positioning as above posted pic histories.I figured I needed to match the "about" formats to the same to equal proper communications, so I then found that the Snow Leopard mac has 2.4-1.24 as the driving makerware, plugging that in, I updated firmware to the lower number, so now the bot is stating on the LCD Version 7.3, during all these resets, I would do a:

 reset to basic>set dual and HBP, and then tried overwriting th bed size smaller, to aliviate a crash, then run a calibrate nozzles. when I picked line #9, I saw -200 on the Y ais- ust fine by me, but when it would run the tool 1, I would get crashing into to X- stop. the bot has been powered off since Sunday, now.

so there we are- with references to the "not sailfish' story as other references.doing more research- with pen a nd paper now!

On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 8:07:31 PM UTC-6, John Borlaug wrote:

[John Borlaug]

yepper- the X stop cable- only 2 lights on @ home!

On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 8:07:31 PM UTC-6, John Borlaug wrote: