Cinesamples Orchestral Chords

[Kandy Swartzel]

CinesamplesCineOrch library, redesigned and encoded for Kontakt Player 6.6.1+ and NKS.

With a beautiful collection of chords, octaves, and inversions performed by a 70-piece orchestra in a gorgeous space, this library is a must-have for enhancing your mockups. Use these recorded ensemble chords to add depth and character to your compositions with ease!

Nothing beats the sound of a full ensemble playing together when capturing chords. The way the instruments interact with each other and with the recording space in real time creates a magnificently realistic texture. Cinesamples sampled a world-class 70 piece orchestra playing a tremendous variety of major, minor, augmented chords with inversions, plus octaves and low, warm muted chords.

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We hired a world-class 70 piece orchestra in a gorgeous space and sampled an enormous variety of chords, in major, minor, augmented and in a variety of inversions and articulations across the spectrum. In addition, we grabbed full orchestral tutti octaves, and lush low muted warm chords.

Many thanks to regular contributors Shannon McDowell, Medway Studios, ThaLoops, Richard Hasiba, blortblort, Triple Spiral Audio , Wolfgang Gaube, Sounds2Inspire, Tonedeff, ModeAudio, Jonathan Litten, George Napier, Biswadeep Ray, Yonatan, Reynn, IzOhm, and HLplanet for supporting Rekkerd!

Hi all, ive been getting pretty heavy into orchestral / hybrid trailer cinematic sound design. Thus far i have just been doing it the old fashioned way, playing in chords and leads as midi, as i know absolutely NOTHING about writing or reading music.

Will StaffPad help me to take my cinematic compositions to the next level? Does it help you learn composing in the traditional sense? Do I need some prior knowledge? etc etc. any and all feedback on the app or other tool suggestions greatly appreciated. Desktop or iOS.

That said, learning how music is represented on a staff can help you to understand music better, and the more you understand the components, the better you understand the language (of music). That can be good or bad. It's good if the understanding unlocks insights that increase your creative palette. It's bad if it overwhelms your instinctive sense and you focus too much on the technical side.

Staff notation is a highly technical representation of what you hear. Everything needs to be broken down into mathematical bits in order to be represented. So, in that sense, it's a creativity limiter. You can only go so far with staff notation.

Everyone should try learning staff notation, IMO. But no, it's not something that's necessarily going to make you a better composer. In fact, it could end up being simply a distraction. Which software you use to produce notation shouldn't make too much of a difference as long as it works well and isn't too frustrating to learn and use.

IMO, a more direct path to improving your compositional skill is to begin with study of music theory, harmony, etc. Focusing on theory is like studying literature. Focusing on staff notation is like studying calligraphy.

@shinyisshiny said:

Hi all, ive been getting pretty heavy into orchestral / hybrid trailer cinematic sound design. Thus far i have just been doing it the old fashioned way, playing in chords and leads as midi, as i know absolutely NOTHING about writing or reading music.

You don't need staffPad for that. More important is to understand the role of each instrument in the orchestra, the technical aspect/limitation of each (because this can help to make it sound more realism), the voicing/spacing of the texture, and the understanding that there will be more polyphonic texture in orchestral writing. I think that, for most musicians coming from pop/rock backgrounds, the above perspectives are their weakest link to become a good orchestrator. So, if you fill in these things, you can write a better orchestral piece. For tools, just a keyboard (or guitar, if you're a guitarist) and the staff paper are enough. Any notation software should be fine. You can write using only 4 staves in a short score form, marking any instruments as needed, then expand it to a full orch score later.

Staffpad is $90 with a complete sound library so it's like a $50 sound library with a $40 DAW

based on handwriting over piano roll data entry. The rendering of StaffPad is better than

any other IOS DAW since it switches between articulations (Staccato, Marcato, Legato, etc)

by notation. To mix those articulation in Cubasis you'd have to jump between multiple tracks

with each assigned an instrument with a different articulation sound file. Users of Cubasis now that

multiple heavy weight sound file AUv3 instruments will crash the app.

If you want to do very detailed film music in the tradition of John Williams on IOS there is no

other option. If you are OK with less control then you can pass on the pencil and work within the limits

of the iSymphonic library and (believe me) spend a lot more than $90 on sounds alone and still

be missing a lot of essential orchestral instruments and articulations.

Now, to be fair the standard StaffPad sound library does not have a ton of articulations and you will

quickly start drooling over the CineSamples, Berlin Orchestra and Spitfire Audio products that are

sold in the StaffPad Store for $99 each. So, someone interested in the most complete set of controls will

spend well over $500.

But the handwriting system is not excellent at interpreting your gestures, so the free options might be better for learning notation. I bought it to brush up on notation and compose some epic scores, but now I plan to do those separately, because I care about a very fast workflow...more than most.

StaffPad will ask you to re-write some notes, and you'll think "It's obvious what I meant" and I noticed myself repeatedly toggling between two menus to access functions that could have been placed next to each other. Also, why can't I just tap to place a note or rest, of a currently-selected length? There's a lot of "handwriting instead" instead of "handwriting because it's more natural".

I'm a harsh critic when it comes to UI design, and I still mainly use StaffPad, because it's the best way to achieve a good quality orchestral sound. @McD has composed some good stuff with it; definitely part of what convinced me to buy it.

Thanks... truth be told I've only created one piece I'm proud of. It was done in an epic all nighter

that threw off my sleep cycle for days after. But it's the one piece I've shared with my wife and kids that

impressed them. Anything that sounds like film music tends to impress.

Here's the Staffpad piece used as the sound track for a parody conspiracy video

showing pulsing chemtrail streaks over the pacific. HINT: There's a sheet of glass

and a a trick with the phasing between the video frame rate and the 60Hz pulsing of florescent lights involved in the "conspriracy" of alien artifacts. Most alien space videos

reply on camera technology side effects to create objects which are not what they appear in the rear view mirror.

I think my audience has high expectations, and doesn't plan to lower them, so I could probably get away with using StaffPad, but......I wouldn't think of it like a piano roll that teaches music notation. It's almost there.

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