Unexpected feeder issue

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Peter Vickery

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Jun 18, 2011, 10:53:17 PM6/18/11
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We have several feeders and use one of those curved poles that look like a shepherd's stick with a curve at the end.

Our's has two curves, one above the other and they come together on the central pole at a sharp angle.

Somehow a Downy Woodpecker got her leg caught in this sharp pinch-like angle.  Ouch.  It was an unhappy bird and I released it quickly.

I plan to use some duct tape to smooth over this pinch point, even if it might give squirrels a boost.

I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, hopefully not, but thought it worth mentioning.

Best, Peter




Linda Scotland

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Jun 19, 2011, 6:54:30 AM6/19/11
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I had to rescue a squirrel who had gotten his leg caught the same way.  Wasn't an easy thing to do as he was frantic and trying to bite me. 
 
Linda D. Scotland
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Derek and Jeannette Lovitch

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Jun 19, 2011, 2:57:29 PM6/19/11
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Hi all,
 
Considering the number of "shephard's hook" bird feeder and planter poles out there, this does seem to be a very rare occurrence.  However, in the 7 years we've been in the business, we have heard of this at least twice.  Just a few month ago, for example, I raced over to a customer's house to free a caught squirrel (I threw a blanket over it, then wrapped it, before manipulating the leg and pole to free it). 
 
There's a bunch of companies that make (made) shepherd's hooks and most seem not to be a problem.  However, the description Peter provided sounded like the pole that I rescued that squirrel from.  Basically, when birds or anything else land on the pole, they can slide down into that crevice between the two hooks and get wedged in there, especially as they panic and try to get out, only to slip further. 
 
Although the incidences of this appear to be very rare, we have been recommending that anyone with a multi-hook shepherd's pole check the joint where the hooks connect to the main pole.  Most will have a seperation wide enough as to not be a problem.  Others will have the hooks welded well enough that there is no "pinch point."
 
However, if you believe there is a chance of something sliding down between the two hooks, we recommend using a fine wire to wrap around the joint, up to about 1" above the "pinch point."  The seal does not have to be perfect, as it just needs to prevent the foot from sliding too low towards the "pinch point."  We do not recommend tape of any sort or glue to seal up the joint as either of these could melt or in the case of tape, fray, resulting in sticky substances being exposed to birds that could result in entrapment as well.
 
Also, if you have a double-hook with a 1/2" square pole and removable hooks, we have an adapter that has been designed for stability, but seems to completely reduce the chance of something sliding into the "pinch point."
 
As for Peter's comment about the tape perhaps giving "squirrels a boost," this should be moot as a properly placed pole with a properly-sized and place baffle won't have any squirrel's on it! 
 
Hope that helps,
-Derek

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Walter Ellison

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Jun 19, 2011, 7:05:48 PM6/19/11
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Hello from Maryland,

Another simple solution to the shepherd's crook pole problem: When I (Nancy Martin) worked in a bird feeding supply store a number of years ago, the double-crook poles we sold came with a large washer, sized to slide onto one of the hooks and over to the joint where the two hooks came together. It rested at an angle in the notch, preventing wayward feet from sliding all the way into the 'pinch point'.

Best,

Nancy Martin
Chestertown, Maryland

Dance

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Jun 19, 2011, 8:22:55 PM6/19/11
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I had the terrible experience one frigid dawn to find a cardinal
frozen stiff with his leg stuck in my shepherd's hook. I expect the
metal was icy and he had fallen the previous day and I hadn't seen him
when I came home in the dark. The gap was just wide enough for a
bird's leg. I took a piece of thick twine and wound it around the
upright part up to where they widened. The twine was thick enough to
fill the space and I can still separate the two pieces. I check it
and replace it every couple of years when it disintegrates. It may
not happen often but it's a terrible thing to think what that bird
went through and I'm glad you are spreading the word.
~Barbara

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Judith & Reid Scher

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Jun 19, 2011, 8:43:43 PM6/19/11
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I had a similar issue w/ a corncob squirrel feeder.  It was shaped like a cornstalk w/ metal "cornsilk" prongs at the top.  I found a drenched squirrel caught by its tail and hanging upside down in cold rain.  The metal prongs were just too close.  Luckily I got there in time.  Just another instance of decoration at expense of safe function.
Judy


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Down East Nature Tours

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Jun 21, 2011, 5:36:24 PM6/21/11
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Hello all,
 
Another simple solution is to stop feeding  “the predators”   and the birds....until the nesting period is over...  Bird feed attracts avian predators to your yards and is part of the suburbanization problem  in Maine and the reason for some of the decline of neotropical migrants.   Feed your birds all winter  but avoid the nesting season.  I stop feeding birds (except suet)   from April to August  and usually do not start up until colder weather approaches.
 
If you stop feeding the “predators” you may find you have more Warblers around your home....... what a concept.
 
Michael
 
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Florence Maguire

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Jun 21, 2011, 8:03:01 PM6/21/11
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Michael,

Why do you keep on using suet and not the other bird food?  I do it the other way around but I’m just an amateur. Explain please so I may learn. Thanks.

Flo in Scarborough



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Hello all,
 
Another simple solution is to stop feeding  “the predators”   and the birds....until the nesting period is over...  Bird feed attracts avian predators to your yards and is part of the suburbanization problem  in Maine and the reason for some of the decline of neotropical migrants.   Feed your birds all winter  but avoid the nesting season.  I stop feeding birds (except suet)   from April to August  and usually do not start up until colder weather approaches.
 
If you stop feeding the “predators” you may find you have more Warblers around your home....... what a concept.
 
Michael
 
Michael J. Good, MS
President Down East Nature Tours
Founder and Director 13th Acadia Birding Festival June 2-5, 2011
Co-founder Penobscot Watershed Eco Center
150 Knox Road
Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
207-288-8128 / 207-479-4256

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Rebecca Sumner

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Jun 21, 2011, 8:02:12 PM6/21/11
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That's one perspective, but it doesn't solve the original problem of birds getting trapped by feeder poles. 
 
Just for the record, I've been feeding birds year round for more than 20 years, and I rarely see predadors in my yard.  And of those that I have seen, most have been in the winter, not during the breeding season.  Since bird feeding has the potential of attracting predators any time of year, it wouldn't seem to matter what time of year one feeds or does not feed the birds.  Others with more expertise than me, have stated here that feeding birds in the summer does not adversely affect them.  I bow to their collective knowledge.
 
Wally S.
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