Re: Mount Desert Island Birds: Green- winged Teal, No BCNH images requested

[Down East Nature Tours]

Mount Desert Island Birds:  Green- winged Teal, No BCNH   images requested  

Hamilton Pond, Hancock, US-ME
Apr 22, 2013 8:10 AM - 8:35 AM
Protocol: Traveling
0.5 mile(s)
Comments:     Checking the pond for BCNH reported yesterday. Many birds found but not that one.  If there are images of this “particularly good birds for MDI” that would be confirmation of this particular species that I would like to see.  Because it is this species an image would be helpful and the score of the mini-golf game.        Sunny blue sky and 39F.
18 species

Canada Goose (Branta canadensis)  1     Wondering if this is a nesting bird?
American Black Duck (Anas rubripes)  2
Mallard (Anas platyrhynchos)  7
Green-winged Teal (Anas crecca)  2
Ring-necked Duck (Aythya collaris)  15
Bufflehead (Bucephala albeola)  8
Double-crested Cormorant (Phalacrocorax auritus)  3
Bald Eagle (Haliaeetus leucocephalus)  1     roosting in the big white pine.
Ring-billed Gull (Larus delawarensis)  1
Herring Gull (Larus argentatus)  2
Eastern Phoebe (Sayornis phoebe)  1
American Crow (Corvus brachyrhynchos)  1
Common Raven (Corvus corax)  1
Tree Swallow (Tachycineta bicolor)  2
Yellow-rumped Warbler (Setophaga coronata)  5

Song Sparrow (Melospiza melodia)  4
Red-winged Blackbird (Agelaius phoeniceus)  4
Common Grackle (Quiscalus quiscula)  2

 

Michael J. Good, MS
President Down East Nature Tours
Founder and Director Research and Development
15th Acadia Birding Festival, May 30-June 2, 2013
Co-founder Penobscot Watershed Eco Center
39 COTTAGE STREET
Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
207-288-8128 / 207-479-4256

in...@DownEastNatureTours.com
www.DownEastNatureTours.com
face...@DownEastNatureTours.com

in...@AcadiaBirdingFestival.com
www.AcadiaBirdingFestival.com
face...@AcadiaBirdingFestival.com

[Jim Bright]

This is an open letter to Downeast Nature Tours aka Michael Good

Enough of this bullying of those of us on MDI who happen to see an exciting bird that you did not. You challenged , off line,my report of a Golden Eagle because I could not produce a photo and now you have done it to someone else on line. If you cannot respect the abilities of others then maybe you should remove yourself from Maine birds  like you have been asked to do two times before. Maine-birds is meant for the enjoyment of all of us who like to watch birds it is not a place to bolster one's ego. 
Would you also please respect the guidelines and remove your company name as your tag line. You are the only guide in the state who is disrespectful of this policy.

Jim Bright
Sent from Jim's iPhone

--
--
Maine birds mailing list
maine...@googlegroups.com
http://groups.google.com/group/maine-birds
https://sites.google.com/site/birding207
 
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Maine birds" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to maine-birds...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 
 

[Craig Kesselheim]

I'm 100 % with Jim on this one. Thank you Jim for stepping forward and speaking out.

We need civility and mutual respect in each of Maine's birding regions. The birding community, birders of MDI, and subscribers to this listserv deserve better etiquette and trust-based respect.

Craig Kesselheim
Southwest Harbor

[Down East Nature Tours]

Dear all,

 

All I did was ask for a photo Jim... If you feel bullied by that request ( of another person) and because of my history on birding on  MDI... That is your issue. Seems you should have kept that off line.    I ask for the photo because I would like to see the bird verses a simple report... of a bird seldom seen on MDI, BCNH.    You my friend have some other issue going on and I am sorry you feel “bullied”.   This request was not of you but of your silent partner.  Why do you feel the need to interject on an issue you are not part of. Did you see the BCNH?     I have a scientific reason for asking for imagery. If you do not understand that we can have that discussion offline .  I really have never met people who cannot communicate without feeling threatened... I asked for an image of a bird that is rather rare on MDI.  Where did all this other BS come from? Egos??  Where are you coming from? This has nothing to do with birding...... and appears to be an offline issue.   

 

I am looking for confirmation of species seen on MDI.  This is scientific request... (not bullying).  Too bad you (and your friend) feel threatened by a simple request.  Your agenda seems to be disrespectful to my need to see proof of species on MDI.   Please do not take it so personally.   Asking for photo proof in the digital age.............should not be so difficult to understand.   Asking for a photo has  nothing what-so-ever with anyone’s abilities.   I asked about  your Golden Eagle off line..... because if it was an immature bird you could have been mistaken. There are very few Golden Eagles in Maine, let alone MDI..... The other day I asked another person for an image of Lesser-Black-backed Gull......NO EGO LASHING EMAIL FROM THAT PERSON.  Why are you attacking my request for a photo about a bird of interest..... online.    Perhaps you should remove yourself from the list if you cannot accept someone questioning your reports and others?   

 

You and your silent friend are about as disrespectful as they get.   My enjoyment of birds comes from confirmation.  Photos do not lie.   I will repeat my request for confirmation of Black-crowned Night Heron at Hamilton Pond.  If there is no photo proof than it is another IIT of a BCNH on MDI.... its only a report not confirmation.   Thank you

 

Michael

 

Michael J. Good, MS
President Down East Nature Tours
Founder and Director Research and Development
15th Acadia Birding Festival, May 30-June 2, 2013
Co-founder Penobscot Watershed Eco Center
39 COTTAGE STREET
Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
207-288-8128 / 207-479-4256

in...@DownEastNatureTours.com
www.DownEastNatureTours.com
face...@DownEastNatureTours.com

in...@AcadiaBirdingFestival.com
www.AcadiaBirdingFestival.com
face...@AcadiaBirdingFestival.com

[Down East Nature Tours]

Hi Craig,

 

Again... only asked for a photo and you have joined Jim with feeling threatened.  I have scientific reasons for asking for proof of a seldom seen species on MDI....  There is an effort to produe an accurat bird list for MDI.    Too bad you are feeling threatened as well.   I will repeat my request for confirmation of Black-crowned Night Heron at Hamilton Pond.  Not being disrespectful, not dis-trusting anyone ....  but looking for scientific confirmation.   Craig.. I am surprised... your true colors revealed.  Not even your bird...weird.....  Just asking for an image of a rare bird on MDI.  Science gentlemen..... what ever your construing is mis-construed.  Scientific proof.... not usually a bullying issue.   

 

Michael 

 

Dear all,

 

All I did was ask for a photo Jim... If you feel bullied by that request ( of another person) and because of my history on birding on  MDI... That is your issue. Seems you should have kept that off line.    I ask for the photo because I would like to see the bird verses a simple report... of a bird seldom seen on MDI, BCNH.    You my friend have some other issue going on and I am sorry you feel “bullied”.   This request was not of you but of your silent partner.  Why do you feel the need to interject on an issue you are not part of. Did you see the BCNH?     I have a scientific reason for asking for imagery. If you do not understand that we can have that discussion offline .  I really have never met people who cannot communicate without feeling threatened... I asked for an image of a bird that is rather rare on MDI.  Where did all this other BS come from? Egos??  Where are you coming from? This has nothing to do with birding...... and appears to be an offline issue.   

 

I am looking for confirmation of species seen on MDI.  This is scientific request... (not bullying).  Too bad you (and your friend) feel threatened by a simple request.  Your agenda seems to be disrespectful to my need to see proof of species on MDI.   Please do not take it so personally.   Asking for photo proof in the digital age.............should not be so difficult to understand.   Asking for a photo has  nothing what-so-ever with anyone’s abilities.   I asked about  your Golden Eagle off line..... because if it was an immature bird you could have been mistaken. There are very few Golden Eagles in Maine, let alone MDI..... The other day I asked another person for an image of Lesser-Black-backed Gull......NO EGO LASHING EMAIL FROM THAT PERSON.  Why are you attacking my request for a photo about a bird of interest..... online.    Perhaps you should remove yourself from the list if you cannot accept someone questioning your reports and others?   

 

You and your silent friend are about as disrespectful as they get.   My enjoyment of birds comes from confirmation.  Photos do not lie.   I will repeat my request for confirmation of Black-crowned Night Heron at Hamilton Pond.  If there is no photo proof than it is another IIT of a BCNH on MDI.... its only a report not confirmation.   Thank you

 

Michael

 

Michael J. Good, MS
President Down East Nature Tours
Founder and Director Research and Development
15th Acadia Birding Festival, May 30-June 2, 2013
Co-founder Penobscot Watershed Eco Center
39 COTTAGE STREET
Bar Harbor, Maine 04609
207-288-8128 / 207-479-4256

in...@DownEastNatureTours.com
www.DownEastNatureTours.com
face...@DownEastNatureTours.com

in...@AcadiaBirdingFestival.com
www.AcadiaBirdingFestival.com
face...@AcadiaBirdingFestival.com

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:maine-birds%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com.

For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 
 

[Susan Guare]

The rest of us already know Craig's "true colors":  he's polite, friendly, knowledgeable, and helpful to less-abled birders or the geographically challenged.  Enough of this now.

There are ways to ask if anyone has a photograph that don't come across as a challenge.  Your local English teacher would be happy to help you word such a request, Mr. Good, should the issue come up again.

[Eric B]

Michael,

yumadbro?

As a lurker of the list I have decided to weigh in on this one...

First - you are the only one that consistently breaks group rules and constantly plugs your organization.

Second - you consistently come off abrasive and arrogant when replying to members (downright condescending as well).

Third - what the hell is your real scientific background? Citizen science is great but get off your damn high horse.

Fourth - your posts are always too long. Just post significant sightings and leave your giant list on ebird where it belongs (a simple link works fine).

Fif - I plead this.

Sixth - have a nice day.



Best,
Eric

P.S. Sorry Doug :)