something like Mail's Smart Mailbox?

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Bee

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:09:17 PM12/28/09
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Does Mailsmith have something like Apple Mail's Smart Mailbox?

I would like a mailbox showing only the Flagged messages.

I know I can create an "Advanced Query" to show all Flagged mail.

Is it possible to SAVE an "Advanced Query"?

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Charlie Garrison

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Dec 29, 2009, 10:16:37 AM12/29/09
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Good morning,

On 28/12/09 at 3:09 PM -0800, Bee <beey...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Does Mailsmith have something like Apple Mail's Smart Mailbox?
>
>I would like a mailbox showing only the Flagged messages.
>
>I know I can create an "Advanced Query" to show all Flagged mail.
>
>Is it possible to SAVE an "Advanced Query"?

I don't think it's possible to save an Advanced Query, but it's
possible to script much of the same functionality. So if they
are common/repeated searches you are doing; turn it into an
AppleScript instead. I haven't tested all the variations, but
the few saved scripted searches I have are also live-updating.


Charlie

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David Groover

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Dec 29, 2009, 10:35:38 AM12/29/09
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No. When Apple first started using saved searches I thought, great! I
thought it would not be long before every good mac software developer
would implement this type of search. But no, this is not the way it
is. Smart folders are a brilliant idea as far as I can tell. But in
some circles, it just isn't seen that way.

I used to complain of this missing feature Mailsmith. But in this
environment, it is a better use of time not to even go there.
Mailsmith is a very good program, however it is definitly as the first
reply to your post mentioned, Applescript is how most challenges are
served by most users in Mailsmith. I guess the best way I could put it
is that, as I see it, Mailsmith is more a power app for managing
large email volumes. It is used a lot by those who consider themselves
power users. Those users also tend to have relatively high Applescript
abilities and most just see it differently than I do. No offense
intended, I just don't expect things will change in the smart folder
department within Mailsmith any time soon.

Someone on this list helped me once to create a script that would find
all my unread messages. People here can be very helpful like that. But
to my mind that is still not the same as having a smart folder.

Ah well, Mailsmith is quite nice, yet I doubt it will ever see the
need (for it's developers) to create smart folders - saved searches.

Would be nice but, it really isn't the vision here that I can see with
Mailsmith AFAIK.

Respectfully

David

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Bee

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:48:57 AM12/30/09
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Charlie Garrison wrote:
> On 28/12/09 at 3:09 PM -0800, Bee <beey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Does Mailsmith have something like Apple Mail's Smart Mailbox?
> >I would like a mailbox showing only the Flagged messages.
> >I know I can create an "Advanced Query" to show all Flagged mail.
> >Is it possible to SAVE an "Advanced Query"?
>
> I don't think it's possible to save an Advanced Query, but it's
> possible to script much of the same functionality. So if they
> are common/repeated searches you are doing; turn it into an
> AppleScript instead. I haven't tested all the variations, but
> the few saved scripted searches I have are also live-updating.

First try:
"Script Menu > Start Recording...", setup an Advanced Query, the
result was a blank script.

Second try:
Look for anything in the Mailsmith scripting library about Advanced
Query, result nothing.

Will you, someone, post an example?

Charlie Garrison

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:30:34 PM12/30/09
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Good morning,

On 30/12/09 at 8:48 AM -0800, Bee <beey...@gmail.com> wrote:

>First try:
>"Script Menu > Start Recording...", setup an Advanced Query, the
>result was a blank script.
>
>Second try:
>Look for anything in the Mailsmith scripting library about Advanced
>Query, result nothing.
>
>Will you, someone, post an example?

There have been a few 'complete' scripts to the list recently
which 'find' messages and show them in a new window. Use one of
those as a starting point. For an advanced query, you can do
something like the following; it's one I use to find messages
with specific label that has been 'read'.

set myList to every message of myBox whose ((label index is
0 or label index is 8 or ¬
label index is 26 or label index is 27 or label index is
30) and seen is true)

From that you can see it's possible to create some fairly
'advanced' search criteria. Combine that with one of the many
other 'find' scripts to create a 'saved query' which does
exactly what you need.

Eg. Look for the message from me on 17/12/09 with subject of
"sort by thread" for example of a complete script. Bill Rowe
also sent a similar script on the same subject thread; Bill's
script is simpler to work with.

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