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co...@sdf.org
Jun 24, 2016, 9:35:18 AM6/24/16
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Hi,
There's a lot of programs sticking around since a long time, and are
less useful today. at the very least, they do not need to be in
base.tgz, which means they take up space even in minimal installs.
Examples:
ekermit in rescue, base.tgz
bpm in base.tgz
atf tests utilities in base.tgz
I want to:
delete ekermit, bpm (or at the very least move them to another set).
move atf things (and rump?) out of base.tgz to a more optional set.
There's a lot of programs sticking around since a long time, and are
less useful today. at the very least, they do not need to be in
base.tgz, which means they take up space even in minimal installs.
Examples:
ekermit in rescue, base.tgz
bpm in base.tgz
atf tests utilities in base.tgz
I want to:
delete ekermit, bpm (or at the very least move them to another set).
move atf things (and rump?) out of base.tgz to a more optional set.
Thor Lancelot Simon
Jun 24, 2016, 10:27:13 AM6/24/16
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On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:34:52PM +0000, co...@SDF.ORG wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There's a lot of programs sticking around since a long time, and are
> less useful today. at the very least, they do not need to be in
> base.tgz, which means they take up space even in minimal installs.
>
> Examples:
> ekermit in rescue, base.tgz
I added kermit (gkermit, which was later replaced with ekermit). I added
> Hi,
>
> There's a lot of programs sticking around since a long time, and are
> less useful today. at the very least, they do not need to be in
> base.tgz, which means they take up space even in minimal installs.
>
> Examples:
> ekermit in rescue, base.tgz
it because it is:
A) Tiny
B) Essential for recovering damaged systems with only serial
console access.
It's repeatedly been a lifesaver for me both in development and when
helping customers recover their devices in the field after they
screwed them up. Please don't remove it. A minimal but robust file
transfer utility is an essential base system component for embedded
use.
> bpm in base.tgz
I didn't even know this program existed! Does it work?
> atf tests utilities in base.tgz
Thor
Joerg Sonnenberger
Jun 24, 2016, 10:45:40 AM6/24/16
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On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:34:52PM +0000, co...@SDF.ORG wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There's a lot of programs sticking around since a long time, and are
> less useful today. at the very least, they do not need to be in
> base.tgz, which means they take up space even in minimal installs.
>
> Examples:
> ekermit in rescue, base.tgz
> bpm in base.tgz
> Hi,
>
> There's a lot of programs sticking around since a long time, and are
> less useful today. at the very least, they do not need to be in
> base.tgz, which means they take up space even in minimal installs.
>
> Examples:
> ekermit in rescue, base.tgz
> atf tests utilities in base.tgz
>
>
> I want to:
> delete ekermit, bpm (or at the very least move them to another set).
> move atf things (and rump?) out of base.tgz to a more optional set.
ekermit is a highly useful program for many systems with serial
> delete ekermit, bpm (or at the very least move them to another set).
> move atf things (and rump?) out of base.tgz to a more optional set.
consoles. It doesn't make sense to move it elsewhere.
bpm - can IMO be dropped.
Moving ATF infrastructure and RUMP into the test set: I have no strong
opinion on this. It doesn't cost enough space in my tmpfs chroots
compared to many other factors.
Joerg
Martin Husemann
Jun 24, 2016, 10:51:58 AM6/24/16
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On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 04:45:27PM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
> Moving ATF infrastructure and RUMP into the test set: I have no strong
> opinion on this. It doesn't cost enough space in my tmpfs chroots
> compared to many other factors.
Note that rump and compat are hacked^Wspecial treated when creating
> Moving ATF infrastructure and RUMP into the test set: I have no strong
> opinion on this. It doesn't cost enough space in my tmpfs chroots
> compared to many other factors.
install CDs with semi-full base.tgz on /; moving both to separate sets
would make that a lot more straight forward.
Martin
co...@sdf.org
Jun 24, 2016, 11:23:06 AM6/24/16
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On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:27:01AM -0400, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:
> I added kermit (gkermit, which was later replaced with ekermit). I added
> it because it is:
>
> A) Tiny
> B) Essential for recovering damaged systems with only serial
> console access.
>
> It's repeatedly been a lifesaver for me both in development and when
> helping customers recover their devices in the field after they
> screwed them up. Please don't remove it. A minimal but robust file
> transfer utility is an essential base system component for embedded
> use.
>
Got it! I thought it's some old artefact, but guessed wrong.
> I added kermit (gkermit, which was later replaced with ekermit). I added
> it because it is:
>
> A) Tiny
> B) Essential for recovering damaged systems with only serial
> console access.
>
> It's repeatedly been a lifesaver for me both in development and when
> helping customers recover their devices in the field after they
> screwed them up. Please don't remove it. A minimal but robust file
> transfer utility is an essential base system component for embedded
> use.
>
Thanks.
> > bpm in base.tgz
>
> I didn't even know this program existed! Does it work?
>
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