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NoOp
Nov 14, 2011, 9:45:48 PM11/14/11
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On 10/26/2011 08:29 AM, Dr. George Kostopoulos wrote:
>
> Dear Open Office,
>
> I have experienced a problem with/Open Office/.
> I receive homeworks from my students and when I open them sometimes pages are
> just blank or missing.
> This time, I decided to bring this issue to your attention.
> Last week, I received the attached document.
> When I open it with/Open Office/ the document ends with a few lines on top of
> page five.
> When I open it with /Corel Write/ I see more text, References and Biography.
> My Open Office is about one year old.
...
This is interesting. I tried your document on the following:
1. OOo 3.2.1 (go-oo Ubuntu distribution build linux)
OpenOffice.org 3.2.1
OOO320m19 (Build:9505)
ooo-build 3.2.1.4, Ubuntu package 1:3.2.1-7ubuntu1.
The file opens properly and displays 7 full pages of text including
References and Biography etc., with no problem.
2. OOo-Dev (standard build linux)
OOo-dev 3.4.0
DEV300m106 (Build:9582)
Crashes OOo immediately & leaves a lock file in place.
3. LibreOffice 3.3.4 (standard build linux)
LibreOffice 3.3.4
OOO330m19 (Build:401)
tag libreoffice-3.3.4.
Crashes LO immediately & leaves a lock file in place.
4. LibreOffice 3.4.4 (standard build linux)
LibreOffice 3.4.4
OOO340m1 (Build:402)
Crashes LO immediately & leaves a lock file in place.
Unfortunately I no longer have earlier 'standard' OOo versions installed
or I would have tested with them as well. In any event it appears that
you have a reportable bug.
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>
> Dear Open Office,
>
> I have experienced a problem with/Open Office/.
> I receive homeworks from my students and when I open them sometimes pages are
> just blank or missing.
> This time, I decided to bring this issue to your attention.
> Last week, I received the attached document.
> When I open it with/Open Office/ the document ends with a few lines on top of
> page five.
> When I open it with /Corel Write/ I see more text, References and Biography.
> My Open Office is about one year old.
...
This is interesting. I tried your document on the following:
1. OOo 3.2.1 (go-oo Ubuntu distribution build linux)
OpenOffice.org 3.2.1
OOO320m19 (Build:9505)
ooo-build 3.2.1.4, Ubuntu package 1:3.2.1-7ubuntu1.
The file opens properly and displays 7 full pages of text including
References and Biography etc., with no problem.
2. OOo-Dev (standard build linux)
OOo-dev 3.4.0
DEV300m106 (Build:9582)
Crashes OOo immediately & leaves a lock file in place.
3. LibreOffice 3.3.4 (standard build linux)
LibreOffice 3.3.4
OOO330m19 (Build:401)
tag libreoffice-3.3.4.
Crashes LO immediately & leaves a lock file in place.
4. LibreOffice 3.4.4 (standard build linux)
LibreOffice 3.4.4
OOO340m1 (Build:402)
Crashes LO immediately & leaves a lock file in place.
Unfortunately I no longer have earlier 'standard' OOo versions installed
or I would have tested with them as well. In any event it appears that
you have a reportable bug.
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NoOp
Nov 14, 2011, 10:59:37 PM11/14/11
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still has OOo 3.3.0 OOO330m20 (build:9567) and opening the .docx file in
that demonstrates what you probably are experiencing: only 5 pages, dual
columns in pages 2-5, and no References and Biography page.
Again, this appears to be a a regression between 3.3.0 and OOo-Dev
(3.4.0). Given the OOo - Apache conversion I'm not even sure if you can
file a bug report any longer (at least I've no idea how). But hopefully
someone from Apache will pick up on this post and see if they can pass
it along to their devs. If I've time tomorrow I'll try to remember to
file a bug report with LO.
Larry Gusaas
Nov 14, 2011, 11:45:56 PM11/14/11
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On 2011-11-14 9:59 PM NoOp wrote:
> Found an old version of Windows 2KPro on one of my virtual machines that
> still has OOo 3.3.0 OOO330m20 (build:9567) and opening the .docx file in
> that demonstrates what you probably are experiencing: only 5 pages, dual
> columns in pages 2-5, and no References and Biography page.
3.4.4 all crash immediatly and leave a lock file.
Pages, TextEdit, and Bean all open document with references and biograpy.
> Again, this appears to be a a regression between 3.3.0 and OOo-Dev
> (3.4.0). Given the OOo - Apache conversion I'm not even sure if you can
> file a bug report any longer (at least I've no idea how). But hopefully
> someone from Apache will pick up on this post and see if they can pass
> it along to their devs. If I've time tomorrow I'll try to remember to
> file a bug report with LO.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
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Larry Gusaas
Nov 15, 2011, 9:22:14 PM11/15/11
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On 2011-11-15 7:54 PM NoOp wrote:
> I have WinXP on a VMWare virtual machine; opened the file in MS Word
> viewer and get all 6 pages (2-5 are dual columns, page 6 is the
> references page). Not sure if the PDF will be accepted as an attachment,
> but I'll give it a try (it's 29.2KB) so that it can be used for comparison.
That is basically the same as the original opened in Pages on my Mac.
> I have WinXP on a VMWare virtual machine; opened the file in MS Word
> viewer and get all 6 pages (2-5 are dual columns, page 6 is the
> references page). Not sure if the PDF will be accepted as an attachment,
> but I'll give it a try (it's 29.2KB) so that it can be used for comparison.
That is basically the same as the original opened in Pages on my Mac.
NoOp
Nov 15, 2011, 9:34:53 PM11/15/11
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On 11/14/2011 08:45 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>
> On 2011-11-14 9:59 PM NoOp wrote:
>> Found an old version of Windows 2KPro on one of my virtual machines that
>> still has OOo 3.3.0 OOO330m20 (build:9567) and opening the .docx file in
>> that demonstrates what you probably are experiencing: only 5 pages, dual
>> columns in pages 2-5, and no References and Biography page.
>
> On Mac OS X version 10.6.8 OOo 3.3.0, OOo-dev 3.4.0, NeoOffice 3.1.2 Patch 9, and LibreOffice
> 3.4.4 all crash immediatly and leave a lock file.
>
> Pages, TextEdit, and Bean all open document with references and biograpy.
Interesting & thanks for testing.
>
> On 2011-11-14 9:59 PM NoOp wrote:
>> Found an old version of Windows 2KPro on one of my virtual machines that
>> still has OOo 3.3.0 OOO330m20 (build:9567) and opening the .docx file in
>> that demonstrates what you probably are experiencing: only 5 pages, dual
>> columns in pages 2-5, and no References and Biography page.
>
> On Mac OS X version 10.6.8 OOo 3.3.0, OOo-dev 3.4.0, NeoOffice 3.1.2 Patch 9, and LibreOffice
> 3.4.4 all crash immediatly and leave a lock file.
>
> Pages, TextEdit, and Bean all open document with references and biograpy.
On WinXP OOo didn't crash (but dual columns in 2-5, no page 6 with
references):
OOo 3.3.0
OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
OOO330m20 (build:9567)
or
OOo-Dev (Windows)
OOo-dev 3.4.0
OOO340m0 (Build:9583)
LO (Windows same VM):
LibreOffice 3.3.4
OOO330m19 (Build:401)
tag libreoffice-3.3.4.1
OOO330m19 (Build:401)
Doesn't crash. Again, dual columns in 2-5, no page 6 with references. I
wonder why this only crashes non-windows versions.
So it appears that there are two issues: 1) the .docx crashes other
non-windows versions tested (linux, Mac), and 2) even when the file
opens it is missing the references page. OOo 3.2.1 (go-oo Ubuntu
distribution build linux)
OpenOffice.org 3.2.1
OOO320m19 (Build:9505)
ooo-build 3.2.1.4, Ubuntu package 1:3.2.1-7ubuntu1. opens the document &
OpenOffice.org 3.2.1
OOO320m19 (Build:9505)
displays the reference page, but 2-6 are single column.
Overall pretty disappointing results as the .docx doesn't contain
anything special (formating-wise).
If I get time I'll try to save to a .doc and see if there are any major
differences.
Gary
NoOp
Nov 15, 2011, 10:10:54 PM11/15/11
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On 11/15/2011 06:59 PM, NoOp wrote:
> the MS odf extension installed and found that there is an extra section
> between the last text column and the references page. In other words it
> went from section 2 at "intent of the law could be solidified." to a
> blank section 3, and then section 4 which is the 'Refrences' page. I
> deleted the section 3 and then did a saveas. Attached is the .docx from
> that & it no longer crashes my linux OOO's or LO's.
>
> Seems odd that a blank section would cause this. Please test on the Mac.
> Thanks.
>
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And from mine with the section deleted:
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So something in the first is causing the crashes.
> On 11/15/2011 06:22 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>> On 2011-11-15 7:54 PM NoOp wrote:
>>> I have WinXP on a VMWare virtual machine; opened the file in MS Word
>>> viewer and get all 6 pages (2-5 are dual columns, page 6 is the
>>> references page). Not sure if the PDF will be accepted as an attachment,
>>> but I'll give it a try (it's 29.2KB) so that it can be used for comparison.
>>
>> That is basically the same as the original opened in Pages on my Mac.
>>
>
> I think that I may have found the issue; I opened in MS Word 2002 with
>> On 2011-11-15 7:54 PM NoOp wrote:
>>> I have WinXP on a VMWare virtual machine; opened the file in MS Word
>>> viewer and get all 6 pages (2-5 are dual columns, page 6 is the
>>> references page). Not sure if the PDF will be accepted as an attachment,
>>> but I'll give it a try (it's 29.2KB) so that it can be used for comparison.
>>
>> That is basically the same as the original opened in Pages on my Mac.
>>
>
> the MS odf extension installed and found that there is an extra section
> between the last text column and the references page. In other words it
> went from section 2 at "intent of the law could be solidified." to a
> blank section 3, and then section 4 which is the 'Refrences' page. I
> deleted the section 3 and then did a saveas. Attached is the .docx from
> that & it no longer crashes my linux OOO's or LO's.
>
> Seems odd that a blank section would cause this. Please test on the Mac.
> Thanks.
>
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> the original intent of the law could be solidified.
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And from mine with the section deleted:
> intent of the law could be solidified. </w:t></w:r></w:p><w:p
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So something in the first is causing the crashes.
Larry Gusaas
Nov 15, 2011, 10:54:50 PM11/15/11
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On 2011-11-15 8:59 PM NoOp wrote:
> On 11/15/2011 06:22 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>> On 2011-11-15 7:54 PM NoOp wrote:
>>> I have WinXP on a VMWare virtual machine; opened the file in MS Word
>>> viewer and get all 6 pages (2-5 are dual columns, page 6 is the
>>> references page). Not sure if the PDF will be accepted as an attachment,
>>> but I'll give it a try (it's 29.2KB) so that it can be used for comparison.
>> That is basically the same as the original opened in Pages on my Mac.
>>
> I think that I may have found the issue; I opened in MS Word 2002 with
> the MS odf extension installed and found that there is an extra section
> between the last text column and the references page. In other words it
> went from section 2 at "intent of the law could be solidified." to a
> blank section 3, and then section 4 which is the 'Refrences' page. I
> deleted the section 3 and then did a saveas. Attached is the .docx from
> that& it no longer crashes my linux OOO's or LO's.
> On 11/15/2011 06:22 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>> On 2011-11-15 7:54 PM NoOp wrote:
>>> I have WinXP on a VMWare virtual machine; opened the file in MS Word
>>> viewer and get all 6 pages (2-5 are dual columns, page 6 is the
>>> references page). Not sure if the PDF will be accepted as an attachment,
>>> but I'll give it a try (it's 29.2KB) so that it can be used for comparison.
>> That is basically the same as the original opened in Pages on my Mac.
>>
> I think that I may have found the issue; I opened in MS Word 2002 with
> the MS odf extension installed and found that there is an extra section
> between the last text column and the references page. In other words it
> went from section 2 at "intent of the law could be solidified." to a
> blank section 3, and then section 4 which is the 'Refrences' page. I
> deleted the section 3 and then did a saveas. Attached is the .docx from
>
> Seems odd that a blank section would cause this. Please test on the Mac.
> Thanks.
Opens fine in OOo, LibreOffice, NeoOffice, and Pages.
> Seems odd that a blank section would cause this. Please test on the Mac.
> Thanks.
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