Installation issue wrt python version

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Ray Wakeland

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Mar 15, 2025, 3:19:10 PMMar 15
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Hi.  I used conda to create an environment with python 3.13.2 and all the other listed pre-requisites except PyAudio, because I had to use pip to get a recent-enough version of PyAudio, ending up with PyAudio 0.2.14.  Then I used pip to install madmom, ending up with madmom 0.16.1.

When I try to import madmom in jupyterlab (3.3.2), I get this error:

ImportError: cannot import name 'MutableSequence' from 'collections' (C:\Users\ray_w\trnscrpt_proj\trnscrpt_env\Lib\collections\__init__.py)

Getting help from a friend, I was told that " the MutableSequences class was moved from collections to collections.abc in Python 3.10"  He suggested that make an environment with Python 3.9 and numpy 1.19.

Is the problem that I'm encountering a "bug", or a failure on my part?

Thanks!
Ray








khubaib ahmad

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Mar 15, 2025, 3:22:51 PMMar 15
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try to create a virual env with 3.8 or 3.10 for now. Also look into madmom documentation for learning the supported python versions.
Or try to install madmom for yourself with editable version so that you may debug , resolve and recompile it for yourself.

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Ray Wakeland

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Mar 15, 2025, 3:41:42 PMMar 15
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OK, thanks.

WRT " look into madmom documentation for learning the supported python versions",  

https://madmom.readthedocs.io/en/latest/installation.html says simply "you must have either Python 2.7 or Python 3.5 or newer".

The main text of https://pypi.org/project/madmom/ [madmom 0.16.1] says "you must have either Python 2.7 or Python 3.3 or newer", but upon further scrutinizing I see that on the left sidebar has

Programming Language

Should this have made me realize that there was an upper limit to the python version?

Thanks!

khubaib ahmad

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Mar 15, 2025, 3:44:19 PMMar 15
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Yes. So far my experience with Madmom is with python 3.8. Also I got into numpy issues that i resolved after debugging.

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Ray Wakeland

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Mar 15, 2025, 4:37:51 PMMar 15
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Well, for someone of my python abilities, this translates to "madmom doesn't work right now".

Ray Wakeland

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Mar 19, 2025, 9:35:24 AMMar 19
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I now have an installation that can run most parts of the tutorials using Python 3.8.20 and numpy 1.19.5.  The key is to keep other installed packages from upgrading to numpy 2.anything.  At some point I successfully used 

pip install numpy==1.19.5 --upgrade

to downgrade numpy back from 2.someting that had been introduced by another package, maybe ipykernels.

Thanks to khub... for the suggestion to go back to Python 3.8.


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khubaib ahmad

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Mar 19, 2025, 9:59:30 AMMar 19
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I am glad it worked out. 

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