Fireworks Canvas Size Limitation
jeremyhein
friend who loves to use fireworks for graphics design and he says that it has a
canvas size limit of around 8ft, but he likes to design really large images and
doesn't want to switch to another product. He contacted me because I do some
development, but I think this may be out of my league. He is willing to pay for
any help to this problem. Thanks.
dave prescott
Stéphane Bergeron
> Illustrator ;)
Exactly. If you want to work with large canvases for print purposes,
Fireworks is completely the wrong tool for the job. Fireworks was
designed for the creation of screen/web graphics. It isn't and was never
meant to be a complete graphic design solution.
Furthermore, Fireworks only deals in pixels. Inches, feet and other
physical world measurements are irrelevant in Fireworks.
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dave prescott
darrel
As others have stated Fireworks is for on-screen graphics.
However, there's not usually a need to work at 100% in most software. If
he's printing a 20' bilboard, he doesn't actually have to work with a
document that's actualy 20'. a 2' document scaled up when going to print
would work just as well provided the resolution of the image is adequate.
-Darrel
jeremyhein
scale graphics and I understand that fireworks deals in pixels. Unfortunately,
my friend is not willing to use another program. Does anyone know if it's
possible to make fireworks work with unusually large canvas sizes?
Linda Rathgeber
It is not. The limitation is 6000 pixels in either dimension
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John Waller
the right tool for the job.
Although he may be comfortable with Fireworks, in this case, Fireworks is
not the right tool for this job and there are no simple workarounds.
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John Waller
Stéphane Bergeron
Exactly. There is no simple or even not so simple workarounds. He'll
have no choice but to accept that he needs to use another more suitable
application.
deebs
proposed designs to clients without sending grossly large files.
So it could, especially if the person is really very good with FW, cater
for a creative synergy before committing to a major design work using,
of course, an application that really is best suited to the project.
Stéphane Bergeron
But even then, a major re-work may be needed in the application that
will create the real final work files. Seems like wasted efforts to me
to start in FW and have to finish or even re-do it completely elsewhere.
Using the right tool for the job really is a matter of basic common sense.
deebs
In this case I was thinking of the user's skills and preference in FW.
Matching a final/approved design in a new or totally new application is
tough but an equally great way to learn.
The person will probably be quite an expert at switching between both
apps by the time the project has finished.
jeremyhein
from Adobe that he could get a developer to modify the program for him and that
people do this all the time. Can anyone clarify whether or not this is
possible? He's willing to pay for the development time as this is something
that would be extremely helpful for him.
darrel
> that would be extremely helpful for him.
I imagine that if you toss 7 figures at Adobe, they'd consider it.
But it sure sounds like you have one stubborn friend.
It's like me asking and paying Ford to modify their Focus to enable me to
hall sheets of plywood instead of me just going out and buying a Ranger. ;o)
-Darrel
Stéphane Bergeron
> Thanks again for the responses. My friend said that he was was told
> by someone from Adobe that he could get a developer to modify the
> program for him and that people do this all the time.
Sounds like BS to me. Adobe development resources are stretched enough
as it is that I really doubt they would spend any time to "customize" an
application that is already this far from being the right tool for the
job... and just for one customer? Very unlikely.
> Can anyone clarify whether or not this is possible? He's willing to
> pay for the development time as this is something that would be
> extremely helpful for him.
Sorry to be blunt but your friend should buy a clue instead... Fireworks
is NOT the application he should be using for the task you described,
period, end of story. I'm a huge Fireworks fan myself... for the purpose
it was designed for. It really doesn't have any feature that is so
uniquely powerful that anyone should be compelled to chosse it over much
more appropriate alternatives that would take little time to learn. He's
wasting his time sticking with Fireworks for this.
John Waller
> that would be extremely helpful for him.
So why not purchase Illustrator (or even the Creative Suite) at the fraction
of the cost of the mythical developer (urban legend) he's heard about and do
the job with the correct tool?
If he'd done that a week ago, the project would be finished by now and he
would have an expanded skillset.
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Regards
John Waller
Stéphane Bergeron
Exactly. And he he would be providing a quality native or PDF file to
his printer in the correct CMYK color space (which Fireworks does not
support... at all) and at the right physical dimensions without ugly
workarounds. Because that is the other part of the equation: the
printer. I work two jobs myself and one of them is at a printing
company. It has never happened to us yet but if we were supplied a
native Fireworks file for a print job, we'd either reject it outright or
charge for re-doing it in Illustrator because the Fireworks file would
be unusable to produce films (we do screen printing). Any professional
printer (even one with a 100% digital workflow) would do the same.
jeremyhein
Stéphane Bergeron
I'm actually a very stubborn guy myself so I get that... but I'm mostly
a pragmatist. One of the things I hate the most is wasting my time, and
trying to use the wrong tool for a job like this is exactly that... a
waste of time and ultimately, money. His stubbornness in this matter is
probably hurting his bottom line as well as his client's.
I'd be curious to know what exactly he finds in Fireworks that is so
compelling that he wants to use it above much more appropriate tools.
Illustrator, InDesign or even FreeHand all have features that would make
his job a lot easier than trying to do it in Fireworks. Furthermore, the
assets he'd create in any of those apps would be much more easily
re-usable in other mediums. Also, why isn't he posting in this forum
himself?
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Alexander Ross
make several 6000x6000 pixel images in FW and stich them together in
illustrator (or whatever) later. It's a dumb idea, but if your friend is
THAT stubborn about it...
Seriously though, take the advice of everyone else who has chimed in
already... using the right tool will always save time/money/energy in the
long run
Alex
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