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Fireworks 3: Button States Reflect OPPOSITE of Settings

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Corbin Dallas

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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Hi,

I'm just doing the Fireworks 3 tutorials, and playing around with buttons. For some reason I have not yet been able to figure out, the button states (Up and Over) seem to be reflecting the exact opposite of their settings.

An example: In the tutorial I've saved as "my-work," I select a button, double-click it and the Button Editor comes up in the Up tab window. I click on the button, it outlines in blue indicating it's selected, I click Fill in the toolbox, select a charcoal color, it fills with the correct color. I next click the Down tab, select the button (again it's outlined in blue) and the fill is the appropriate charcoal. I next click on Fill in the toolbox, select a white color (then the fill changes to a medium/light gray). Then, I close the Button Editor and click the Preview tab. The selected button shows with a white fill. Moving the mouse over it changes it to charcoal. I go back to the Original view, double-click on the button again and the Button Editor opens in the Up state and showing with a white fill. I click on it to highlight it and look at the color showing in the Fill tool in the toolbox and it's white. I click the Over tab and the button appears showing the medium/light gray fill but the Fill tool in the toolbox shows as white.

Have I missed something? Is this a known glitch?

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One other question while I have your attention. Is it not possible to change the color of the text from one state (such as Up) to another (such as Over)? I've tried and tried but it always stays the color of the last setting but for both states.

Many thanks in advance,

PS - I'm using this on a Mac running 8.6 w/128mb RAM.

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Kleanthis E.

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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Hi,
If a selection is made, all the panels show what is applied on the selected object. So the fill panel, shows the fill of the selected object, the Stroke panel shows the stroke of the selected object etc. Now if no selection is made, those panels show the current Fill, stroke etc for the document. The one that will be applied if you draw say a rectangle. Which also happens to be the last applied.
 
So, when you switch to over state with nothing selected, you see the last Fill of the document, ready to be applied again if you draw something new. If you select something, you will see its fill.
 
I hope that explains it.
Kleanthis E.
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Tim Nowfel

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Feb 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/5/00
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I'm still confused.

I, too, have had the same problem when creating buttons (either the tutorial example above or my own).

It seems that if I create the button in the up state, copy up graphic, change the graphic (i.e. color) and then preview or export it to DW3, the down state seems to be swapped with the up state.

What am I not understanding here?

Rgds,
Tim

Tim Nowfel

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Feb 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/7/00
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I found the problem....Turn Onion Skinnig *OFF*.  It then works a treat!
 

Dave

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Feb 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/7/00
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 18:48:44 -0000, "Tim Nowfel"
<t...@nowfel.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Fireworks 3: Button States Reflect OPPOSITE of SettingsI found the problem....Turn Onion Skinnig *OFF*. It then works a treat!
>
Yes,

Well done that man!

It 'is' just that, turn off onion-skinning then copy the 'up' allows
you to adjust the buttons' features (colour, shadow et al) - I, like
you have spent ages trying to figure this one out - I got no replies
to my msg though (sigh, I do know y).

The tut. doesn't make these finer points clear (in my view). I always
had 'o-s' turned on because I wanted to see the view and part of the
tut. says' 'make sure ... turned on' - so you do! - always!! - just
for the best!!! - But no - not always.

Thanks again
Dave

PS. As for this...

Fireworks 3: Button States Reflect OPPOSITE of Settings

Hi,
If a selection is made, all the panels show what is applied on the
selected object. So the fill panel, shows the fill of the selected
object, the Stroke panel shows the stroke of the selected object etc.
Now if no selection is made, those panels show the current Fill,
stroke etc for the document. The one that will be applied if you draw
say a rectangle. Which also happens to be the last applied.

So, when you switch to over state with nothing selected, you see the
last Fill of the document, ready to be applied again if you draw
something new. If you select something, you will see its fill.

... I just wasn't sure what drugs to take whilst reading it! - opted
for alcohol - just to be on the safe side. No, but on a more serious
note, I'm sure it was meant well - it just wasn't 'step-by-step'
enough.

Fisnet

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Feb 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/7/00
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Found the solution...Turn off Onion Skinning!  If it is on, it mixes stuff up when changing colours.
 
Is it ever advised to use Onion Skinning or are there any know bugs?
 
Rgds,
Tim Nowfel (posting outside the firewall!)
I'm still confused.

I, too, have had the same problem when creating buttons (either the tutorial example above or my own).

It seems that if I create the button in the up state, copy up graphic, change the graphic (i.e. color) and then preview or export it to DW3, the down state seems to be swapped with the up state.

What am I not understanding here?

Rgds,
Tim
Hi,
If a selection is made, all the panels show what is applied on the selected object. So the fill panel, shows the fill of the selected object, the Stroke panel shows the stroke of the selected object etc. Now if no selection is made, those panels show the current Fill, stroke etc for the document. The one that will be applied if you draw say a rectangle. Which also happens to be the last applied.
 
So, when you switch to over state with nothing selected, you see the last Fill of the document, ready to be applied again if you draw something new. If you select something, you will see its fill.
 
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