A query before I waste my money...

[Dava]

Before I buy copies of Director for both Mac and PC, I'm just checking I'm
gonna need both versions to create CDROMS playable on both Mac and PCs. This
is a hell of a lot of money to spend so is there an easier way around this
problem?

Referring URLs

[Parker Fleming]

Yes sadly, that's teh case.....you can only create projectors for mac ON a
mac, and for a PC ON a PC.

What's worse.....right now mac OS X crashes consistently when running
projectors.....unless it's running in classic mode. Email your congressman
and ask them to start lobbying for a quick release of Director X!!!!!!

SOrry to be the bearer of bad news.....

~ Parker

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[Doug Golenski]

Okay, I apologize in advance...I'm cranky and haven't had my coffee. Now,
this question gets asked at least two or three times a week on this NG.
Everyone who asks this question (and some who reply to it) then usually
proceed to complain about having to get a version for each platform. Is
there anyone out there who knows of a development tool that will create an
executable on one platform that will run on all platforms?? For example,
develop in VB on a Windows machine and create an executable on a Windows
machine that runs on Macs? I don't think so...but maybe I'm wrong. I can
not imagine why anyone who seriously considers themselves a professional
developer would even consider trying to create a xplatform application
without having the equipment to properly test the application...that means
having at least one Mac and one PC. Now for the OS X issue. Apple made a
huge change in their operating system, they went from their proprietary OS
to a Unix OS...how many years did it take them to create this OS? Of the
total number of Macintosh programs, how many have been ported to run on OS
X? Even Apple new it would take time, that's why they included the
"Classic" option. Macromedia has said they will come out with an OS X
compatible version of Director, and I'm sure they will. That said, I'm as
impatient as the next person for MM to get this version out. However I also
understand what a huge undertaking this is and am willing to cut them a
little slack...as long as they have it out by say DEVCON. Okay, I'm going
to go make some coffee now.

Doug
"Parker Fleming" <par...@inspheria.com> wrote in message
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[Real World Televisual]

Wait!!!

I read in one of the regular mags [either Create! or Computer Arts - and
admittedly it was a few months ago] that Macromedia are looking into the
possibilities of a pricing structure for cross-grading, ie. buy Director for
either Mac/Windows and you're eligible to a "cheaper" purchase of Director
for the other platform.

Sounds like a good idea all round, as increasingly it appears that more and
more developers are looking to produce cross-platform titles.

If anybody out there knows of any additional information [be it good or bad]
then please let me/us know!!

;-)

[Doug Golenski]

They do have a cross grade program. It's not great but it is better than
buying two full price versions. They don't, however, give you a break when
you are upgrading like from D8.0 to 8.5.
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[Real World Televisual]

Thanks for that Doug... totally unaware a cross-grade program was in
operation - any chance of a link so I can find out more info??

Cheers
Mark B ;-)

"Doug Golenski" <do...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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[Doug Golenski]

There used to be a link on MM store web site...but I can't find it now.
When they announced 8.5 I called MM and was told that the cross grade
pricing didn't apply to an upgrade since the upgrades cost so little(MM
speaking...not me). I also think you have to buy both at the same time...so
I would call MM and get the details.

hth,
Doug

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[Real World Televisual]

> There used to be a link on MM store web site...but I can't find it now.
> When they announced 8.5 I called MM and was told that the cross grade
> pricing didn't apply to an upgrade since the upgrades cost so little(MM
> speaking...not me). I also think you have to buy both at the same
time...so
> I would call MM and get the details.
>
> hth,
> Doug

I'll give 'em a call!! Thanks once again for the info.

Regards
Mark B ;-)

[Rick Schneblin]

You can do this with one version, PC or Mac... if you know the tricks. Mine is
cross platform. However, you do need a Mac to burn your Gold CD. (and they will
both autorun as well!)

http://www.holylandvirtualtour.com

[jon ward]

Hi Doug,

I posted the following note on another group a couple of weeks ago at
the behest of some of the developers in our community (especially
those who have migrated to iShell from Director). I hope we're able
to help.

>>Paste>>
I'm the Manager of Membership Services here at Tribeworks, and some of
our developers thought it might be worthwhile for me to check in on
this list. Tribeworks is indeed about to release a fully OS X
compatible verion of iShell, our multimedia authoring tool.

We'll be releasing iShell 3 to our commercial developers over the next
month, and then rolling it out to the general public for evaluation
etc. towards the end of October, or early November.

Currently you can download a fully functional copy of iShell at:
www.tribeworks.com after you register there at our site. The version
we're on now is iShell 2.5.3

iShell 3 will include these following enhancements (along with many
others):
* OS X support (native)
* ability to create and read/write XML documents
* full integration with QuickTime 6 (available now in iShell 2.5.3)
* MPEG-4 A/V support
* Cross platform inherently (already available... always has been)

Tribeworks has been around for four years, and we've quietly carved a
nice niche of developers who have either migrated from Director or
Authorware, or, are historically content creators and are now moving
into multimedia and interactivity.

We put a lot of emphasis on tech support and having strong, ongoing
relationships with our Developers around the world. So, if you do
have any questions or would like to learn more about iShell feel free
to let me know. We'd be glad to see if we can help.

Thanks,

Jon

Jon Ward
Manager of Membership Services
j...@tribeworks.com
800-807-4458 (US and Canada) 415-674-5529 (Intl. Calls)

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[som...@someone.net]

Hey Jon,

Sorry to cut straight to the point, but could this kind of thing be done in
iShell?

http://www.titansonline.com/fan_zone/arcade_games/FieldGoalFrenzy.ht
ml

I'm not trying to be mean. I just would like to know how you would do it
with iShell. This and every other project I work on that requires realtime
3D. How could iShell do it? I have tried it out and have to say that it (in
version 2) does not contain the functionality to do half the work I get.

Please post back here if you want to prove me wrong.

Thanks

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>"Doug Golenski" &lt;do...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> "Parker Fleming" &lt;par...@inspheria.com> wrote in message

>> news:alpvmi$lce$1...@forums.macromedia.com...
>> > Yes sadly, that's teh case.....you can only create projectors for mac
ON a
>> > mac, and for a PC ON a PC.
>> >
>> > What's worse.....right now mac OS X crashes consistently when
running
>> > projectors.....unless it's running in classic mode. Email your
congressman
>> > and ask them to start lobbying for a quick release of Director X!!!!!!
>> >
>> > SOrry to be the bearer of bad news.....
>> >
>> > ~ Parker
>> >

>> > "Dava" &lt;webfor...@macromedia.com> wrote in message

[bigsky]

OK Rick, cough it up! I'm sure we would all like to know what "tricks"
you used to make a cross platform CD-ROM using only, say, a Mac.
bigsky

[jon ward]

Hi Someone,

Sorry for my delay in replying. I actually tried to post a note over
a week ago before I went out of town, but it never got up here for
some reason.

Anyhow, this conversation started in response to people's questions
about Directot's lack of OS X support. But, I don't at all take your
note in the wrong way. I understand you're looking to fill a need,
and so communication on that front is always welcomed. (One reason I
like working here is that Tribeworks is always up front about what we,
and/or iShell can and can't do.)

Now, as to your question and issue, the answer is, right now, No,
iShell doesn't have a 3D engine like Shockwave. However, in 3-4
months the answer will be yes, and, our 3D support will be fantastic
at that point. Ironically, we had great 3D support way back in iShell
1, but, when we moved up to iShell 2 the company we were working with
on 3D didn't have the resources to have us update that compatibility
at the time. And, in listening to our developers 3D was not a big
issue for them. So, we shelved it for a while.

And, it's not about "proving you wrong" or anything. Our best
developers, and even ones who have come from a loooong Director
background, may even use Director on certain projects. But, what they
tell us is that in 90-95% of cases, they can use iShell instead of
Director and do things faster, more stable, and have less tech issues
after shipping... and have all of this cross platform.

However, there are those cases where they'll have to use Director
(say, for example for 3D or for Shockwave) and then they'll use it.
So, I'm sure as you know, it's really more of a question of the BEST,
fastest tool for a CERTAIN job.

Again, thanks for inquiring. And, really, if you'd like to check
iShell out in more detail there's a fully functional evaluators copy
of it at our site at: www.tribeworks.com and, after registering you
can play around to your heart's content without it timing out on you.

All the best, and let me know if there're any other questions I can
help with.

Thanks,

Jon

Jon Ward
Manager of Membership Services

Tribeworks

800-807-4458 (US and Canada) 415-674-5529 (Intl. Calls)

j...@tribeworks.com

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[Troy Hipolito]

I just think that Macromedia has just dropped the on some aspects of
Director (mainly advertising and marketing).

If you notice that MM (now in popularity) flag ship product FLASH has been
cross platform for many years. And yes, yes I know that that FLASH does not
nearly have all the capabilities of Director, BUT if they really wanted to
make it cross platform they could.

Currently all my Director related projects have "if" statements to change
the path of the different operating systems. Sooo, If they had a publish MAC
and PC it could be done.

Also I am a FLASH user as well as a Director user and I find advantages of
both (all though I love the concept of Director's ability to just about make
any thing you can think!). I just wish all the good things of FLASH were
ported in Director (cross platform export, symbols, navigation and stuff
like that). Many of these concepts are just plain time savers and could
optimize production.

I also think the Development force behind Director may also (I could be
wrong) a bit limited in man power, time and budget :(

* Any ways I strongly support Director in my own little way.
http://www.shocksites.com

Thanks
-Troy

On 9/12/02 2:11 PM, in article 3D80D8CD...@esri.com, "Rick Schneblin"