PowerMouse & S100 protocol

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Peter Piper

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Dec 17, 2025, 12:54:27 AM12/17/25
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I am updating my FLARM config and am seeking advice on the protocol version. I can't see any mention in the S100 manual but have seen Paul's advice to use V9.
V7 is default in FLARM configurator and I'm not sure what the LXNAV tool uses as default.

Can anyone confirm that V9 is good to go with the S100?
Bonus points for explaining what changes between versions and if there is any real world benefit of one vs the other with an S100 and standard PowerMouse.

Thanks

Antoine Megens

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Dec 17, 2025, 4:40:06 AM12/17/25
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Paul Remde

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Dec 17, 2025, 7:35:36 AM12/17/25
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Hi Peter,

I always select the latest FLARM protocol (currently version 9) when setting-up FLARM units and in my own sailplane.  It works great with my LXNAV products.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

Richard Pfiffner

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Dec 17, 2025, 8:38:16 AM12/17/25
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Protocol version for data port 1 on the PowerFLARM Fusion (often just called FLARM Fusion) refers to the version of the FLARM proprietary data port protocol (also known as the Interface Control Document or ICD protocol) used for outputting data on that specific serial data port.

FLARM devices like Fusion have multiple data ports (typically Data Port 1 and Data Port 2) that connect to external displays, EFIS, or other instruments. The protocol version determines the format and content of the data sentences sent over the port, such as traffic information ($PFLAA), status ($PFLAU), and others.

  • Newer versions include additional fields and features (e.g., better support for ADS-B/Mode-S targets starting from version 6, more detailed signal strength from version 9, and other enhancements).
  • It is a configurable setting in FLARM Hub (the web-based configuration tool accessible via Wi-Fi).
  • Recommendation from FLARM documentation: Set the highest protocol version supported by the connected display or device, along with the highest compatible baud rate, to maximize information transfer without overwhelming older devices.

This ensures compatibility and optimal data flow. For example, older displays might only support up to version 6 or 7, while modern ones handle the latest (currently up to version 9 or higher in recent firmwares).

If you're seeing this in the configuration menu, check your connected device's manual for its supported ICD version to avoid data loss or incompatibility.

Richard

Peter Piper

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Dec 18, 2025, 7:25:55 PM12/18/25
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Thanks Paul & Richard.

I'll see how V9 works with my S100 then.
I just didn't see anything in the S100 manual about which protocol versions it supports.

Peter

Richard Pfiffner

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Dec 18, 2025, 8:55:54 PM12/18/25
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Both the LXNAV V9 and S100 use the standard FLARM data protocol over serial (RS232) connections for integration with external FLARM devices.

Key Details
  • Protocol: They receive and process standard FLARM NMEA sentences (primarily $PFLAU for status and $PFLAA for traffic targets). This is the universal FLARM data output format used across manufacturers.
  • Connection:
    • The S100 has a dedicated GPS/FLARM port (RJ12 connector, RS232 level) for direct connection to external FLARM/PowerFLARM units. It displays FLARM traffic (radar view, warnings) when connected.
    • The V9 (as a vario unit, often paired with larger LXNAV systems like LX80xx/90xx) receives FLARM data via the system's bus (CAN/RS485) or serial input from an external FLARM module connected to the main unit.
  • Baud Rate: Typically 19200 bps (common default for FLARM), though configurable in some setups.
  • Compatibility: Works with classic FLARM, PowerFLARM, LXNAV's own FLARM modules (e.g., FlarmMouse, PowerMouse), and third-party units, as long as they output standard FLARM sentences.

No special or proprietary "FLARM protocol" variant is required—these units adhere to the open FLARM data specification for interoperability.

Richard

Peter Piper

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Dec 20, 2025, 8:01:47 PM12/20/25
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Thanks Richard.
Are you saying that it makes no difference which version protocol you use with these varios?
As I understand it the different protocols aren't 'special or proprietary', just more recent versions of the same thing as specified by FLARM.

Peter

Paul Remde

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Dec 21, 2025, 11:34:33 AM12/21/25
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Hi Peter,

As stated previously in this thread, I recommend using the latest FLARM protocol with LXNAV products.  

I have seen only on instance where an LX Navigation vario wasn't able to use a recent FLARM protocol.  It was very tough to figure-out why the vario wasn't getting the FLARM data, but setting the FLARM to use an older protocol solved the issue.  I've never seen that with an LXNAV product.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

John Ferguson

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Dec 22, 2025, 3:10:11 PM12/22/25
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The newer the protocol the more data (more data fields/message content) it carries in the NMEA sentence,. As long as your device "throws away" any data fields it does not know of, the device should be pretty much protocol version agnostic. If in doubt start with the latest protocol version and downgrade versions until it works.

John

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