Luminotes appliance?
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gemlog
Jun 15, 2010, 9:02:34 PM6/15/10
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I thought (and still think) that Luminotes is the best wiki ever, and
the best thing for organizing notes, links and attachments without
users having to be a geek.
Over the past couple of decades I've tried many apps for notes, wrote
some kluges myself, and never been completely happy. It took me quite
a while to commit to moving everything to luminotes, but when I did,
it took me even more time to move all my own stuff and do network
documentation etc. for others in it. Dan was a big help all along and
it is really a great shame that things didn't work out for him;
luminotes is a brilliant piece of work. But here we are.
For me, the "good stuff" still remains good: it uses my favourite db
(postgresql), my favourite scripting language (python), my favourite
db connector (psycopg2) etc., etc. -- and, of course, Dan gpl'd it, so
we have the sources unencumbered too. You can't really beat that for
an EOL situation! :-)
Now, it happens that Luminotes "likes" an older version of postgres. I
do have it running under 8.2x ok, but the reference platform is debian/
ubuntu with 8.1x I believe. It happens that I prefer rpm-based systems
though myself.
Idea 1:
To preserve my "investment" I made a Centos5.5 appliance under
VirtualBox today (with postgres 8.1x).
If there is any interest, I'll clean it up (set root passwd to blank,
make it LAN agnostic etc.) and post it on my server somewhere for
download. I installed samba and configured nsswitch.conf so that it
responds as "http://luminotes" on a mixed network of linux and windows
boxen.
http://www.virtualbox.org/
Idea 2:
A copy of the vm could serve as a place to collect patches and
enhancements and still be a turn-key solution to having a luminotes
server.
Idea 2b:
We could run a headless vm as a devel box and have folks log in and
enhance it. I need to give this idea some more thought though I think.
It's kind of a live svn/git/bz in a way. O.K., in a distant, weird,
remote way. Also, I may have to lease a new box to do that as I don't
have that much ram to burn on vm's on my main server.
Any interest?
Regards, Paul Evans
the best thing for organizing notes, links and attachments without
users having to be a geek.
Over the past couple of decades I've tried many apps for notes, wrote
some kluges myself, and never been completely happy. It took me quite
a while to commit to moving everything to luminotes, but when I did,
it took me even more time to move all my own stuff and do network
documentation etc. for others in it. Dan was a big help all along and
it is really a great shame that things didn't work out for him;
luminotes is a brilliant piece of work. But here we are.
For me, the "good stuff" still remains good: it uses my favourite db
(postgresql), my favourite scripting language (python), my favourite
db connector (psycopg2) etc., etc. -- and, of course, Dan gpl'd it, so
we have the sources unencumbered too. You can't really beat that for
an EOL situation! :-)
Now, it happens that Luminotes "likes" an older version of postgres. I
do have it running under 8.2x ok, but the reference platform is debian/
ubuntu with 8.1x I believe. It happens that I prefer rpm-based systems
though myself.
Idea 1:
To preserve my "investment" I made a Centos5.5 appliance under
VirtualBox today (with postgres 8.1x).
If there is any interest, I'll clean it up (set root passwd to blank,
make it LAN agnostic etc.) and post it on my server somewhere for
download. I installed samba and configured nsswitch.conf so that it
responds as "http://luminotes" on a mixed network of linux and windows
boxen.
http://www.virtualbox.org/
Idea 2:
A copy of the vm could serve as a place to collect patches and
enhancements and still be a turn-key solution to having a luminotes
server.
Idea 2b:
We could run a headless vm as a devel box and have folks log in and
enhance it. I need to give this idea some more thought though I think.
It's kind of a live svn/git/bz in a way. O.K., in a distant, weird,
remote way. Also, I may have to lease a new box to do that as I don't
have that much ram to burn on vm's on my main server.
Any interest?
Regards, Paul Evans
Bill Maslen
Jun 16, 2010, 12:36:48 PM6/16/10
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Paul, that's amazing. I'd be very interested in a Luminotes appliance, on VirtualBox or VMware, and although I can't contribute anything in the way of programming skills, would be happy to make suggestions (aha! the easy part!). Something that takes this work forward would be wonderful - I also regard Luminotes as one of the simplest, most straightforward solutions to the whole wiki thing.
gemlog
Jun 16, 2010, 6:32:14 PM6/16/10
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Well, I think "amazing" might be overstating it a bit ;-)
There are lots of them out there e.g.
http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ (actual purpose-built appliances)
http://virtualboxes.org/tag/linux/
http://virtualboximages.com/
The first ones linked there are very good and really trimmed down to
the bone.
There are lots of them out there e.g.
http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ (actual purpose-built appliances)
http://virtualboxes.org/tag/linux/
http://virtualboximages.com/
The first ones linked there are very good and really trimmed down to
the bone.
MadaboutDana
Jun 17, 2010, 7:11:52 PM6/17/10
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Absolutely - the "amazing" was directed at your excellent idea to
create a VM in the first place. Installing Luminotes is not
straightforward, by any means, and a VM just makes the whole thing
much, much easier. I for one would be very enthusiastic to install a
VM of some kind!
On Jun 16, 11:32 pm, gemlog <gem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I think "amazing" might be overstating it a bit ;-)
>
> There are lots of them out there e.g.http://www.turnkeylinux.org/(actual purpose-built appliances)http://virtualboxes.org/tag/linux/http://virtualboximages.com/
create a VM in the first place. Installing Luminotes is not
straightforward, by any means, and a VM just makes the whole thing
much, much easier. I for one would be very enthusiastic to install a
VM of some kind!
On Jun 16, 11:32 pm, gemlog <gem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I think "amazing" might be overstating it a bit ;-)
>
gemlog
Jun 17, 2010, 8:10:56 PM6/17/10
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I thought the server section in the install text file was quite good.
The vm isn't trimmed down at all -- it weighs in at 650mb uncompressed
-- and they don't seem to compress very much (hardly at all). A
tarball I made is 644mb. Only the one iso centos5 install was done
plus luminotes and its dependencies. Adding Samba probably didn't help
though... Also, I know there's some junk in root's d/l directory that
I copied over with sshfs while I was setting it up.
Two people with interest in as many days is enough for me. I'll try to
clean it up a bit and upload it over the next week some time. Please
just don't expect it to be as polished and lean as the stuff from the
guys at turnkeylinux. It does work fine though. Just import it and hit
'start machine' in vbox. I'll make a txt file with the commands to run
it headless from rc.local or a shell as that's how it will probably be
used the most I would think.
The vm isn't trimmed down at all -- it weighs in at 650mb uncompressed
-- and they don't seem to compress very much (hardly at all). A
tarball I made is 644mb. Only the one iso centos5 install was done
plus luminotes and its dependencies. Adding Samba probably didn't help
though... Also, I know there's some junk in root's d/l directory that
I copied over with sshfs while I was setting it up.
Two people with interest in as many days is enough for me. I'll try to
clean it up a bit and upload it over the next week some time. Please
just don't expect it to be as polished and lean as the stuff from the
guys at turnkeylinux. It does work fine though. Just import it and hit
'start machine' in vbox. I'll make a txt file with the commands to run
it headless from rc.local or a shell as that's how it will probably be
used the most I would think.
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