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Henk Remijn

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Mar 25, 2003, 1:41:43 AM3/25/03
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Pontus,

With lsmod you can check if modules are loaded.

1. I would not use 2.4.18, this was is buggy. Try a later kernel.
But this has nothing to do with your problem now.

2. Try to build as much drivers as modules, especially the ham radio ones.

If nothing is going to work, you might consider switching to debian. This
distro has ham-radio enabled by default. No kernel recompiling necessary.

73, Henk PA5KT

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> Sent: dinsdag 18 maart 2003 16:50
> To: Pontus Falk
> Cc: linux...@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: Problem...
>
>
> On Monday 17 March 2003 22:09, Pontus Falk wrote:
>
> > > cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep MKISS
> > > You should get CONFIG_MKISS=m or CONFIG_MKISS=y if you get
> > > # CONFIG_MKISS is not set
> > > that means you dont have mkiss at all.
> >
> > Yes, I have CONFIG_MKISS=y in /usr/src/linux/.config. But, I have
> > CONFIG_HAMRADIO=m if that is any problem. I don't know where to set this
> > to y in menuconfig... When I try to set it manually and recompile the
> > kernel I get an error message...
>
> Why not do it the other way round, compile tham all as modules.
>
> > Pontus
> >
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bernard pidoux

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Mar 25, 2003, 11:43:22 AM3/25/03
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Henk Remijn wrote:

Here is my own experience (using Linux and AX25 applications for 3 years
since kernel 2.0.19).
I was not able to achieve a normal functionning of Linux as soon as AX25
was set up with mkiss connexions with any of 2.4.xx kernels. And I tried
with different PCs.
In 2.4 kernel, there are major problems with interruptions (and kernel
panics after a few minutes or hours) that should be corrected in kernel
version under development (actually around 2.5.65) leading to a possible
return to correct functionning (I hope) in 2.2.6 kernel.
I strongly suggest you use kernel 2.2.x (with x greater than 19, last is
2.2.25) for AX25 purpose.
Thats what I am using without any serious problem with AX25 applications
(two mkiss serial port handling 9600 and 1200 bauds links each, plus an
ethernet 10 Mb LAN).
For example, install Mandrake Linux distro 7.2, then update with 7.2
update (february 2003 delivery or so) that can be found on any Linux
distro mirror.
Then install (optionally) the last 2.2 kernel if you want.

Bernard Pidoux, F6BVP

pa3gcu

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Mar 25, 2003, 3:45:33 PM3/25/03
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On Tuesday 25 March 2003 16:42, bernard pidoux wrote:
> Henk Remijn wrote:
> >Pontus,
> >
> >With lsmod you can check if modules are loaded.
> >
> >1. I would not use 2.4.18, this was is buggy. Try a later kernel.
> >But this has nothing to do with your problem now.

> Here is my own experience (using Linux and AX25 applications for 3 years
> since kernel 2.0.19).

O, i used kernel 2.0.19 6 and one half years ago when it came out, you
possably mean when you started using it.
I hope i am correct in the 6 + years as i checked on kernel.org, 2.0.19 is
archived with a date of; Sep 11 1996, i'm getting older.....

> I was not able to achieve a normal functionning of Linux as soon as AX25
> was set up with mkiss connexions with any of 2.4.xx kernels. And I tried
> with different PCs.
> In 2.4 kernel, there are major problems with interruptions (and kernel
> panics after a few minutes or hours) that should be corrected in kernel
> version under development (actually around 2.5.65) leading to a possible
> return to correct functionning (I hope) in 2.2.6 kernel.

I have encountered problems when ifconfig'ing down a kiss interface in 2.4
kernels, however that has been fixed now, i have tryed 2.4 kernels and my
feelings are mixed, i certainly have not encountered any interrupt problems
either with AX25 or Inet networking. Of course i am not saying there are none.

> I strongly suggest you use kernel 2.2.x (with x greater than 19, last is
> 2.2.25) for AX25 purpose.

I still use 2.2.19 with AX25, i have no problem what so ever with it. Or i
should say the following.
9:31pm up 147 days, 18:25, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
3 ethernet cards one scc card 3 IPIP links and AFAIK no problems.
The box is certainly not busy, but when it was years back it stayed up untill
i buggered something up and for easyness sake hit the restset button because
i was enoyed with myself otheriwse uptimes would have been higher.

> Thats what I am using without any serious problem with AX25 applications
> (two mkiss serial port handling 9600 and 1200 bauds links each, plus an
> ethernet 10 Mb LAN).
> For example, install Mandrake Linux distro 7.2, then update with 7.2
> update (february 2003 delivery or so) that can be found on any Linux
> distro mirror.
> Then install (optionally) the last 2.2 kernel if you want.

IMHO 2.2.xx has yet to be beaten when it comes to stability.

I do however belive that my learned friend Henk PA5KT uses 2.4.xx kernels on
his DXcluster gateway and it is always accessable.
The last time i saw him he mentioned he had no such problems with his 2.4
kernel, now i hope i understood him properly.

>
> Bernard Pidoux, F6BVP
>

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bernard pidoux

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Mar 27, 2003, 7:02:06 AM3/27/03
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Jarmo wrote:

>On Tuesday 25 March 2003 18:42, bernard pidoux wrote:
>
>
>
>>For example, install Mandrake Linux distro 7.2, then update with 7.2
>>update (february 2003 delivery or so) that can be found on any Linux
>>distro mirror.
>>Then install (optionally) the last 2.2 kernel if you want.
>>

>>Bernard Pidoux, F6BVP
>>
>>
>
>Hi
>
>I have all ax25 stuff compiled as modules and working like charm
>in mandrake 9.0 with kernel 2.4.20.
>
>Have one 9k6 port using 6pack...So with 2.4.x series kernel ax25
>IS working fine...
>Have tested 2.5.x series and there ax25 does not work....
>
>Jarmo
>
>

I am glad that your AX25 applications are working fine with Linux kernel
2.4.x
I was only reporting that this is not the case when serial link are
handled by mkiss.
I assume that it is a question of heavy interrupts load for I have
traced the problem and found that kernel panics occur very often around
the same address in ax25 input routines.
This is probably related to the lot of cli() instructions and the new
way interrupts are managed in 2.4 kernels.
All these cli() sti() have been removed in 2.5 kernel. Thats why I hope
mkiss will work again on 2.6.

Best 73 de Bernard, F6BVP

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