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Today's Topics:

1. Re: under X, frozen keys, no mouse (Henry Olyer)
2. Re: under X, frozen keys, no mouse (Masoom Shaikh)
3. Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
(Masoom Shaikh)
4. Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
(S Roberts)
5. Re: SSH root login with keys only (Marcin Wisnicki)
6. Re: svn commit problems with sourceforge due to svn
(Marcin Wisnicki)
7. Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
(Masoom Shaikh)
8. Re: svn commit problems with sourceforge due to svn
(Marcin Wisnicki)
9. Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
(S Roberts)
10. Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
(S Roberts)
11. Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB
with nVidia ION chipset) (Dan Naumov)
12. Re: perl qstn... (Randal L. Schwartz)
13. ftp giving url but i want the IP address (Walter)
14. Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
(Warren Block)
15. Re: ftp giving url but i want the IP address
(Programmer In Training)
16. Re: perl qstn... (pa...@pair.com)
17. Compiling (tristan)
18. Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
(S Roberts)
19. Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
(Masoom Shaikh)
20. Re: ftp giving url but i want the IP address (Greg Larkin)
21. Re: Compiling (Matthew Seaman)
22. Re: Compiling (Mikle Krutov)
23. Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
(Leslie Jensen)
24. Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
(S Roberts)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:17:19 -0400
From: Henry Olyer <henry...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: under X, frozen keys, no mouse
To: Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>
Cc: ques...@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
<s2v1d7089c41004050517w7...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I see:

Setting master
xclock: not found
Dropping master

While the root screen has:

drm0: <Intel i845G GMCH> on vgapci0

vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster

info: [drm] AGP at 0xf0000000 128NB

info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0

I have:

hald_enable=YES

in the boot up conf file (/boot/loader.conf)

and

Option "AutoAddDevice" Off

Option "IgnoreEmptyInput" Off

in the xorg.conf file

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Henry Olyer <henry...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I installed FBSD 7.3 on an older Compaq box. It has a built-in video
> card,
> > this isn't a top of the line superfast machine.
> >
> > But it is important for me to press it into service.
> >
> > I tried using a couple of Option lines in xorg.conf, but no luck.
> >
> > so now my questions...
> >
> > Will FBSD 7.3 make use of xf86cfg or some such program. I ask because
> the X
> > --configure command has never worked for me; Not on any of five
> different
> > machines I've put FBSD on.
> >
> > I'm not trying to do a sophisticated install either -- and though I've
> > decided against running OpenBSD, the default install put's up X
> > perfectly... (Why??)
> >
> > wish I knew more...
> > _______________________________________________
> > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "
> freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
> >
>
> add this line to your rc.conf
> hald_enable="YES"
> and restart your machine
>

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:29:19 +0530
From: Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: under X, frozen keys, no mouse
To: Henry Olyer <henry...@gmail.com>
Cc: ques...@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
<o2tb10011eb1004050559u9...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Henry Olyer <henry...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I see:
>
> Setting master
> xclock: not found
> Dropping master
>
> While the root screen has:
>
> drm0: <Intel i845G GMCH> on vgapci0
>
> vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster
>
> info: [drm] AGP at 0xf0000000 128NB
>
> info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0
>
>
> I have:
>
> hald_enable=YES
>
> in the boot up conf file (/boot/loader.conf)

this line was advised to be placed in /etc/rc.conf, NOT /boot/loader.conf
or you did a typo while writing this mail ?

>
> and
>
> Option "AutoAddDevice" Off
>
> Option "IgnoreEmptyInput" Off
>
> in the xorg.conf file
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Henry Olyer <henry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I installed FBSD 7.3 on an older Compaq box. It has a built-in video
>> > card,
>> > this isn't a top of the line superfast machine.
>> >
>> > But it is important for me to press it into service.
>> >
>> > I tried using a couple of Option lines in xorg.conf, but no luck.
>> >
>> > so now my questions...
>> >
>> > Will FBSD 7.3 make use of xf86cfg or some such program. I ask because
>> > the X
>> > --configure command has never worked for me; Not on any of five
>> > different
>> > machines I've put FBSD on.
>> >
>> > I'm not trying to do a sophisticated install either -- and though I've
>> > decided against running OpenBSD, the default install put's up X
>> > perfectly... (Why??)
>> >
>> > wish I knew more...
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
>> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>> > "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
>> >
>>
>> add this line to your rc.conf
>> hald_enable="YES"
>> and restart your machine
>
>

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
From: Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
To: sta...@vickiandstacey.com, Leslie Jensen <les...@eskk.nu>,
FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID:
<p2ib10011eb1004050602k5...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
<sta...@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> Hello Leslie,
> Good to hear from you..,
>
> On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-...@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
>>
>> /Leslie
>>
>
> I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
>
> The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its
> compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually states that it
> supports windows 7.

I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now

>
> Or, am I missing something?
>
> I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers to a
> document that is based on windows vista, but will review this as well.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Regards,
>
> S Roberts
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hello,
>> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to where I
>> > can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 pre-installed
>> > machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, please?
>> >
>> > Any assistance is appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > S Roberts
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
>> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>> > "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
>> >
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
>

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:15:13 +0100
From: S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
To: Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>
Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>, Leslie
Jensen <les...@eskk.nu>
Message-ID: <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Masoom,
Good to hear from you..,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
> <sta...@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> > Hello Leslie,
> > Good to hear from you..,
> >
> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-...@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
> >>
> >> /Leslie
> >>
> >
> > I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
> >
> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its
> > compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually
> > states that it supports windows 7.
>
> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
>

That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a
pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
FreeBSD, please?

Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did you
select, please?

Thanks!

Regards,

S Roberts

> >
> > Or, am I missing something?
> >
> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers to
> > a document that is based on windows vista, but will review this as
> > well.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > S Roberts
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hello,
> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to
> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7
> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up,
> >> > please?
> >> >
> >> > Any assistance is appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > S Roberts
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> >> > "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> > "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
> >

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:19:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: Marcin Wisnicki <mwisnick...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <hpco0b$eji$1...@dough.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:01:08 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 04/04/2010 22:04:35, Marcin Wisnicki wrote:
>> Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met:
>>
>> 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys 2. Normal users will
>> still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive
>
> Only by running two instances of sshd on different ports / IP numbers.
>

Thanks for all reponses.
I've finally solved it by configuring PAM to deny root.
Unfortunately all of pam modules in base system that can do it,
deny login only in "account" phase which is too late for sshd.
I've modified pam_securetty to also provide "auth" facility.

For anyone interested, here is a patch:

--- /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_securetty/pam_securetty.c 2010-02-18 00:12:28.000000000 +0100
+++ pam_securetty/pam_securetty.c 2010-04-05 04:47:21.000000000 +0200
@@ -45,2 +45,3 @@

+#define PAM_SM_AUTH
#define PAM_SM_ACCOUNT
@@ -54,2 +55,24 @@
PAM_EXTERN int
+pam_sm_authenticate(pam_handle_t *pamh, int flags,
+ int argc, const char *argv[])
+{
+ const char *user;
+ int r;
+
+ if ((r = pam_get_user(pamh, &user, NULL)) != PAM_SUCCESS)
+ return (r);
+
+ return (pam_sm_acct_mgmt(pamh, flags, argc, argv));
+}
+
+PAM_EXTERN int
+pam_sm_setcred(pam_handle_t *pamh __unused, int flags __unused,
+ int argc __unused, const char *argv[] __unused)
+{
+
+ return (PAM_SUCCESS);
+}
+
+
+PAM_EXTERN int
pam_sm_acct_mgmt(pam_handle_t *pamh __unused, int flags __unused,

------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:26:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: Marcin Wisnicki <mwisnick...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: svn commit problems with sourceforge due to svn
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <hpcodo$eji$2...@dough.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:08:36 +0200, Dominic Fandrey wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'd like to commit my new release of sysutils/automounter to the
> sourceforge svn repository, so that I can branch the release.
>
> Unfortunately there seems to be a problem with OpenSSL: svn: Commit
> failed (details follow):
> svn: OPTIONS of
> 'https://bsdadminscripts.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bsdadminscripts/automounter':
> SSL negotiation failed: SSL disabled due to library version mismatch
> (https://bsdadminscripts.svn.sourceforge.net)
>
> It seems svn is linked to both the base system version of OpenSSL
> (0.9.8k) and the package (1.0.0):
>> ldd /usr/local/bin/svn |grep ssl
> libssl.so.7 => /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.7 (0x801c8f000) libssl.so.6 =>
> /usr/lib/libssl.so.6 (0x803242000)
>
> I have no idea which version of OpenSSL is used by SF.

It does not matter.

>
> Does someone know a workaround/fix?

Deinstall openssl package and rebuild svn.

Alternatively you could try mapping one of them to another in libmap.conf(5),
but it may not work or cause troubles.

------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530
From: Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
To: S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID:
<h2yb10011eb1004050624j8...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> Hi Masoom,
> Good to hear from you..,
>
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
> Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
>> <sta...@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
>> > Hello Leslie,
>> > Good to hear from you..,
>> >
>> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-...@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
>> >>
>> >> /Leslie
>> >>
>> >
>> > I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
>> >
>> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its
>> > compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually
>> > states that it supports windows 7.
>>
>> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
>>
>
> That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a
> pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
> FreeBSD, please?

Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions,
part1(c:) - NTFS
part2(d:) - FAT32
part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console
as free space

Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can read/write
do not want to use fusefs

first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to
add FreeBSD as another entry
remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.

have fun!!

>
> Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did you
> select, please?

don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that

>
> Thanks!
>
> Regards,
>
> S Roberts
>
>
>> >
>> > Or, am I missing something?
>> >
>> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers to
>> > a document that is based on windows vista, but will review this as
>> > well.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > S Roberts
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to
>> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7
>> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up,
>> >> > please?
>> >> >
>> >> > Any assistance is appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > S Roberts
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
>> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>> >> > "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
>> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>> > "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
>> >
>
>

------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:31:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Marcin Wisnicki <mwisnick...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: svn commit problems with sourceforge due to svn
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <hpconu$eji$3...@dough.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:26:16 +0000, Marcin Wisnicki wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:08:36 +0200, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
>
>>
>> It seems svn is linked to both the base system version of OpenSSL
>> (0.9.8k) and the package (1.0.0):
>>> ldd /usr/local/bin/svn |grep ssl
>> libssl.so.7 => /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.7 (0x801c8f000) libssl.so.6 =>
>> /usr/lib/libssl.so.6 (0x803242000)
>
>
>> Does someone know a workaround/fix?
>
> Deinstall openssl package and rebuild svn.
>

Also if the problem is reproducible - that is, svn being linked to both
versions of openssl if package is installed, you should definitely file
a bug against devel/subversion port.

------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:43:36 +0100
From: S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
To: Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>
Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hello Masoom,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530
Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Masoom,
> > Good to hear from you..,
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
> > Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
> >> <sta...@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >> > Hello Leslie,
> >> > Good to hear from you..,
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-...@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
> >> >>
> >> >> /Leslie
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
> >> >
> >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that
> >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually
> >> > states that it supports windows 7.
> >>
> >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
> >>
> >
> > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a
> > pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
> > FreeBSD, please?
>
> Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions,
> part1(c:) - NTFS
> part2(d:) - FAT32
> part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console
> as free space
>
> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can
> read/write do not want to use fusefs
>
> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to
> add FreeBSD as another entry
> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.
>

Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None Leave
Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did **NOT**
find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr?

Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.

Thanks again, Masoom.

Regards,

S Roberts

> have fun!!
>
> >
> > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did
> > you select, please?
>
> don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that
>
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > S Roberts
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> > Or, am I missing something?
> >> >
> >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers
> >> > to a document that is based on windows vista, but will review
> >> > this as well.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > S Roberts
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to
> >> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7
> >> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up,
> >> >> > please?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > S Roberts
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
> >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> >> >> > "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> >> > "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
> >> >
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:45:10 +0100
From: S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
To: Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>
Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <20100405144510.00006d94@unknown>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hello Masoom,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530
Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.

Thanks again, Masoom.

Regards,

S Roberts

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:02:13 +0300
From: Dan Naumov <dan.n...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB
with nVidia ION chipset)
To: Jeremie Le Hen <jer...@le-hen.org>
Cc: Tim Judd <taj...@gmail.com>, freebsd-...@freebsd.org, Peter
Jeremy <peter...@acm.org>, freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
<r2vcf9b1ee01004050702i7...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jer...@le-hen.org> wrote:
> Nonetheless I'm a little worried by what you said about the lack of ECC.
> Computers has been used for years before ECC came out and obviously they
> worked :). Do you really think it might happen to be a problem? Would
> an Intel board would compensate for this? Dan, have you ever
> experienced weird problems that could be explained by bitflips?

Personally, I haven't had any issues, but then again on the ZFS scale
of things, both my current pool size (2 TB) and projected pool size
when I add more disks (6 TB) is pretty small. If this was a heavily
used machine with a 10 TB pool or bigger, I would definately give
strong consideration to ECC.

> For the records, I've found an interesting and very recent post about
> someone running OpenSolaris on this Supermicro motherboard [1]. He uses
> a thumbdrive for the operating system and with four drives connected
> onto it, the whole system sucks 41 watts when idle (27 without any HDD,
> which is twice as the Intel D945GSE

The power draw (from the wall) for the Supermicro X7SPA-H without any
disks attached is as following:

26W - During boot.
24W - IDLE at console
28W - Full load

This is with a 80+ rated Corsair 400CX PSU. Sadly, I did not have the
opportunity to measure the power draw with powerd enabled. The D945GSE
is unsuitable for use as a ZFS NAS due to it's severe feature
limitations when compared against the X7SPA-H, of biggest concern
would be the limitation of RAM, followed by the amount of native SATA
ports, followed by the fact that you only get a PCI-E x1 (both
physical formfactor and speed-wise) slot for expansion, while most
controller cards are either 4x or 8x, meaning they simply wouldn't
physically fit into the slot.

Singlecore 1,6Ghz Diamondville Atom VS Dualcore 1,66Ghz Pineview Atom
1 RAM socket supporting a max of 1GB VS 2 RAM sockets supporting a max
of 4GB (note that X7SPA-H uses SO-DIMMs, not regular DIMMs)
2 SATA ports vs 6 SATA ports
1 Realtec NIC vs 2 x Intel NIC
PCI-E x1 Slot VS PCI-E x4 Slot (in x16 form factor) for expansion

- Sincerely,
Dan Naumov

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:07:52 -0700
From: mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: perl qstn...
To: Matthew Seaman <m.se...@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Cc: Alejandro Imass <a...@p2ee.org>, Polytropon <fre...@edvax.de>,
Chad Perrin <per...@apotheon.com>, FreeBSD Mailing List
<freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <867homm...@red.stonehenge.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

>>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman <m.se...@infracaninophile.co.uk> writes:

Matthew> As far as I know, perl and its descendant ruby are the only
Matthew> programming languages that let you put the condition test after
Matthew> the action, despite this being exceeding familiar in human
Matthew> languages.

Except, we old-timers remember that Larry Wall directly lifted this from
RSTS-E BASIC-PLUS, which he had used at Pacific University as a student.
Having hacked BASIC-PLUS myself around the same time, I recognized it
instantly.

BASIC-PLUS went further though, allowing them to be nested. So you'd
end up with monstrosities like:

PRINT a
IF a % 3 = 2
FOR a = b TO b+7
FOR b = 0 TO 90 STEP 10;

Thankfully, Larry limited Perl's statement modifiers to precisely one
level. :)

Just another old geezer,

--
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<mer...@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:08:43 -0500
From: Walter <walt...@earthlink.net>
Subject: ftp giving url but i want the IP address
To: Questions <freebsd-...@FreeBSD.org>
Message-ID: <4BB9FCF...@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I want to parse ftp error messages in auth.log and use the
ip address in inserting a block into ipfw. It works, except
when ftpd spits out the host-specific url rather than the ip.
Adding "-h" to the ftpd command in inet.conf didn't help.
Can someone tell me how to do this, or point me to code
(C) to convert it?

Thanks. I'm off-list so please reply directly.

Walter

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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:10:47 -0600 (MDT)
From: Warren Block <wbl...@wonkity.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
To: S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
Cc: Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Mailing List
<freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1...@wonkity.com>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, S Roberts wrote:
> Hello Masoom,
>
>>>> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
>>>
>>> That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a
>>> pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
>>> FreeBSD, please?

EasyBCD worked for me on a preinstalled Vista machine, adding FreeBSD 8.
And of course Vista is just Win7 alpha.

>> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can
>> read/write do not want to use fusefs
>>
>> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to
>> add FreeBSD as another entry
>> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.
>>
>
> Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None Leave
> Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did **NOT**
> find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr?

No problem for me.

> Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
> people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
> and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.

There's a relatively rare bug in sysinstall, but even if there wasn't,
you should still back up the existing MBR and the whole Windows
partition before you add another OS.

For backup, you can use the FreeBSD livefs and dd, but clonezilla or
partimage are faster. Clonezilla automatically saves a separate copy of
the MBR, AFAIR.

http://www.clonezilla.org/
http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA

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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:20:25 -0500
From: Programmer In Training <p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>
Subject: Re: ftp giving url but i want the IP address
To: Walter <walt...@earthlink.net>
Cc: Questions <freebsd-...@FreeBSD.org>
Message-ID: <4BB9FFB9...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

On 04/05/10 10:08, Walter wrote:
> I want to parse ftp error messages in auth.log and use the
> ip address in inserting a block into ipfw. It works, except
> when ftpd spits out the host-specific url rather than the ip.
> Adding "-h" to the ftpd command in inet.conf didn't help.
> Can someone tell me how to do this, or point me to code
> (C) to convert it?
>
> Thanks. I'm off-list so please reply directly.
>
> Walter

Would it be possible to wrapper everything in a script that uses a
single ping (ping -c 1) to pull the resulting IP address from the
output? For example:

ping -c 1 google.com
PING google.com (74.125.47.103): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 74.125.47.103: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=111.391 ms

--- google.com ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 111.391/111.391/111.391/0.000 ms

seeing how that's the standard output for ping, couldn't you use grep
and a regex to grab the IP either from the parenthesis or that first
line? Of course there might be an easier way and/or better tool than
ping to do this.

CCing the list to get a discussion going as I imagine such a script
could have other uses.

--
Yours In Christ,

PIT
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Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org
Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed.

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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 04:31:40 -1000
From: pa...@pair.com
Subject: Re: perl qstn...
To: "Randal L. Schwartz" <mer...@stonehenge.com>
Cc: Alejandro Imass <a...@p2ee.org>, Polytropon <fre...@edvax.de>,
Chad Perrin <per...@apotheon.com>, FreeBSD Mailing List
<freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <2010040514...@holstein.holy.cow>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

in message <867homm...@red.stonehenge.com>, wrote Randal L.
Schwartz thusly...
>
> >>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman
> >>>>> <m.se...@infracaninophile.co.uk> writes:
>
> Matthew> As far as I know, perl and its descendant ruby are the
> Matthew> only programming languages that let you put the
> Matthew> condition test after the action, despite this being
> Matthew> exceeding familiar in human languages.
>
> Except, we old-timers remember that Larry Wall directly lifted this
> from RSTS-E BASIC-PLUS, which he had used at Pacific University as a
> student. Having hacked BASIC-PLUS myself around the same time, I
> recognized it instantly.
>
> BASIC-PLUS went further though, allowing them to be nested. So
> you'd end up with monstrosities like:

"Beauty is in the eye ...", or, perhaos you would prefer "Only a
mother would ...".

> PRINT a
> IF a % 3 = 2
> FOR a = b TO b+7
> FOR b = 0 TO 90 STEP 10;

Oh Randal, don't tease me please about the lack of such loveliness in
perl.

- parv

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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:35:05 -0400
From: "tristan" <tri...@tristan.cz.cc>
Subject: Compiling
To: <freebsd-...@FreeBSD.org>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP97270941C...@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

How would i go about compiling the FreeBSD source code (to build my own) in an Ubuntu machine? (windows 7 is also available). What programs do i need? Were can i download the source code?
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:26:46 +0100
From: S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
To: Warren Block <wbl...@wonkity.com>, Masoom Shaikh
<masoom...@gmail.com>
Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <20100405162646.00000b79@unknown>
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Hello Warren,
Great to hear from you..,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:10:47 -0600 (MDT)
Warren Block <wbl...@wonkity.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, S Roberts wrote:
> > Hello Masoom,
> >
> >>>> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
> >>>
> >>> That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with
> >>> a pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
> >>> FreeBSD, please?
>
> EasyBCD worked for me on a preinstalled Vista machine, adding FreeBSD
> 8. And of course Vista is just Win7 alpha.
>

Understood - only realized this over the past 24 hours.,

> >> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes
> >> can read/write do not want to use fusefs
> >>
> >> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use
> >> EasyBCD to add FreeBSD as another entry
> >> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.
> >>
> >
> > Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None
> > Leave Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did
> > **NOT** find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the
> > mbr?
>
> No problem for me.
>
> > Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
> > people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
> > and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.
>
> There's a relatively rare bug in sysinstall, but even if there
> wasn't, you should still back up the existing MBR and the whole
> Windows partition before you add another OS.
>
> For backup, you can use the FreeBSD livefs and dd, but clonezilla or
> partimage are faster. Clonezilla automatically saves a separate copy
> of the MBR, AFAIR.
>

That's excellent information. I was unsure of the status of
sysinstall's integrity as far as the efficacy of these option
selections.

Will have a go shortly.

Regards,

S Roberts

> http://www.clonezilla.org/
> http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page
>
> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:56:39 +0530
From: Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
To: S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID:
<p2pb10011eb1004050826l8...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:13 PM, S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> Hello Masoom,
>
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530
> Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Masoom,
>> > Good to hear from you..,
>> >
>> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
>> > Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
>> >> <sta...@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hello Leslie,
>> >> > Good to hear from you..,
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-...@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> /Leslie
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
>> >> >
>> >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that
>> >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually
>> >> > states that it supports windows 7.
>> >>
>> >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
>> >>
>> >
>> > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a
>> > pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
>> > FreeBSD, please?
>>
>> Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions,
>> part1(c:) - NTFS
>> part2(d:) - FAT32
>> part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console
>> as free space
>>
>> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can
>> read/write do not want to use fusefs
>>
>> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to
>> add FreeBSD as another entry
>> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.
>>
>
> Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None Leave
> Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did **NOT**
> find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr?
>
> Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
> people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
> and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.

yes, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-April/056100.html
thread is actually correct,
for me it is fresh install, in your case it is little tricky to get it straight
for a fresh install you can install FreeBSD first then Win7, and then
use EasyBSD. done.

i guess, i have done that too. i.e. installed FreeBSD after Win7, then
used Win7 CD to repair
but take care, it can fail with that irritating send, don't send dialog box

so here is one trick if you got guts to try :). I recently got saved
with this trick

you have Win7 pre-installed, now free up some space and let FreeBSD
install, select the option "do not touch mbr". Next boot you will find
Win7 gone. Boot from Win7 CD and let it install at same location where
it is/was installed. Setup will warn you of already existing
installation. It might additionally say that it will move old
installation to "Windows.old" folder. Ignore this warning and let
setup continue. If I remember correctly the second option is
Extracting Windows Files(percentage). Let it come to second step and
execute it for a 5 mins, then cancel the setup, ignore all warning and
it will undo all changes, but by that time it will already have fixed
the bootloader problem. After you cancel setup, give it all time it
needs to undo, don't force reboot/power down.

hope this will enable you too install FreeBSD, a great development environment
have fun!

>
> Thanks again, Masoom.
>
> Regards,
>
> S Roberts
>
>> have fun!!
>>
>> >
>> > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did
>> > you select, please?
>>
>> don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > S Roberts
>> >
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Or, am I missing something?
>> >> >
>> >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers
>> >> > to a document that is based on windows vista, but will review
>> >> > this as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > S Roberts
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hello,
>> >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to
>> >> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7
>> >> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up,
>> >> >> > please?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > S Roberts
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
>> >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>> >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>> >> >> > "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list
>> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>> >> > "freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org"
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
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>
>

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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:46:25 -0400
From: Greg Larkin <gla...@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: ftp giving url but i want the IP address
To: Walter <walt...@earthlink.net>
Cc: Questions <freebsd-...@FreeBSD.org>
Message-ID: <4BBA05D...@FreeBSD.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

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Walter wrote:
> I want to parse ftp error messages in auth.log and use the
> ip address in inserting a block into ipfw. It works, except
> when ftpd spits out the host-specific url rather than the ip.
> Adding "-h" to the ftpd command in inet.conf didn't help.
> Can someone tell me how to do this, or point me to code
> (C) to convert it?
>
> Thanks. I'm off-list so please reply directly.
>
> Walter
> _______________________________________________

Hi Walter,

Did you send a HUP signal to inetd so it rereads the config file?

kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`

Hope that helps,
Greg
- --
Greg Larkin

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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:46:26 +0100
From: Matthew Seaman <m.se...@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Compiling
To: tristan <tri...@tristan.cz.cc>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <4BBA05D2...@infracaninophile.co.uk>
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On 05/04/2010 15:35:05, tristan wrote:
> How would i go about compiling the FreeBSD source code (to build my
> own) in an Ubuntu machine? (windows 7 is also available). What
> programs do i need?

Really you need FreeBSD already installed if you want to compile FreeBSD
from source. If you've got a spare partition of about 5GB or more[*]
then you can install there, boot into FreeBSD and away you go.
Everything you need to know about doing that is described in the
handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

If you haven't got a spare partition then vmware or VirtualBox or some
other virtualization solution are alternatives. However, if you want to
use that to do a v-to-p migration, be aware that you'll probably want to
re-tune the kernel to better match the physical, and it may well be a
lot less hassle just to install directly on the physical server.

> Were can i download the source code?

ftp.freebsd.org and mirrors all round the world. It's also available on
the installation .iso images. Although you will find it considerably
more useful to use csup(1) or freebsd-update(1) from a FreeBSD box to
grab more recent patch-levels.

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] which is enough to install FreeBSD and still have a usable amount of
space left over -- quart-in-a-pint-pot types will no doubt follow up
explaining how they've managed to install FreeBSD on something
unfeasibly small.

- --
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
Kent, CT11 9PW
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:45:51 +0400
From: Mikle Krutov <nekoex...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Compiling
To: tristan <tri...@tristan.cz.cc>
Cc: freebsd-...@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <2010040515...@takino.homeftp.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 10:35:05AM -0400, tristan wrote:
> How would i go about compiling the FreeBSD source code (to build my own) in an Ubuntu machine? (windows 7 is also available). What programs do i need? Were can i download the source code?
Why do even need this?
Also, i doubt any one had such an expirience before.

--
Wbr,
Krutov Mikle

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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:05:42 +0200
From: Leslie Jensen <les...@eskk.nu>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
To: Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>
Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>, S Roberts
<sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
Message-ID: <4BBA0A56...@eskk.nu>
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> so here is one trick if you got guts to try :). I recently got saved
> with this trick
>
> you have Win7 pre-installed, now free up some space and let FreeBSD
> install, select the option "do not touch mbr". Next boot you will find
> Win7 gone. Boot from Win7 CD and let it install at same location where
> it is/was installed. Setup will warn you of already existing
> installation. It might additionally say that it will move old
> installation to "Windows.old" folder. Ignore this warning and let
> setup continue. If I remember correctly the second option is
> Extracting Windows Files(percentage). Let it come to second step and
> execute it for a 5 mins, then cancel the setup, ignore all warning and
> it will undo all changes, but by that time it will already have fixed
> the bootloader problem. After you cancel setup, give it all time it
> needs to undo, don't force reboot/power down.
>
> hope this will enable you too install FreeBSD, a great development environment
> have fun!

I would use the fixboot command to fix this, or boot from PartedMagic CD
and set the boot flag on that partition.

/Leslie

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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:08:18 +0100
From: S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
To: Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Mailing List
<freebsd-...@freebsd.org>, freebsd...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20100405170818.00001dc7@unknown>
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Hello Masoom,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:56:39 +0530
Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:13 PM, S Roberts <sta...@vickiandstacey.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello Masoom,
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530
> > Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts
> >> <sta...@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi Masoom,
> >> > Good to hear from you..,
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
> >> > Masoom Shaikh <masoom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
> >> >> <sta...@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Hello Leslie,
> >> >> > Good to hear from you..,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-...@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> /Leslie
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that
> >> >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that
> >> >> > actually states that it supports windows 7.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off
> >> > with a pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then
> >> > **added** FreeBSD, please?
> >>
> >> Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions,
> >> part1(c:) - NTFS
> >> part2(d:) - FAT32
> >> part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management
> >> console as free space
> >>
> >> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes
> >> can read/write do not want to use fusefs
> >>
> >> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use
> >> EasyBCD to add FreeBSD as another entry
> >> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.
> >>
> >
> > Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None
> > Leave Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did
> > **NOT** find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the
> > mbr?
> >
> > Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
> > people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
> > and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.
>
> yes,
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-April/056100.html
> thread is actually correct, for me it is fresh install, in your case
> it is little tricky to get it straight for a fresh install you can
> install FreeBSD first then Win7, and then use EasyBSD. done.
>

Wiping the machine as you suggest is not an option.

This is a new, windows 7 preinstalled machine that came with **NO**
windows 7 install disks.

> i guess, i have done that too. i.e. installed FreeBSD after Win7, then
> used Win7 CD to repair
> but take care, it can fail with that irritating send, don't send
> dialog box
>

I'd have like to have known this earlier.., I wasn't set to start until
later this evening, so I guess its good to have found this out now.

As I said above, the machine did not come with windows 7 installation
media included.

W Block earlier referred to the sysinstall mbr issue as a "rare bug",
but if you have yourself encountered this bug 6 months ago, then it
would appear to have been broken for a long time.

A search of PRs show;
Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:37:58 GMT: bin/86600: sysinstall(8): Sysinstall
boot manager screen is misleading

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:03:41 -0800 (PST): bin/121124: sysinstall(8):
FreeBSD 6.3 installation deletes MBR partition

Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:11:51 GMT: bin/129771: sysinstall(8): 7.1 RC1
sysinstalls installs boot0 even when told not to

I've been managing FreeBSD servers for years now, so I guess this type
of issue did slip through my attention gap - even so, going by the
earliest date there, seems like this ball has been dropping for a long
time :-/

Thanks for the suggestions, Masoom.

Regards,

S Roberts

> >
> > Thanks again, Masoom.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > S Roberts
> >
> >> have fun!!
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options
> >> > did you select, please?
> >>
> >> don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > S Roberts
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Or, am I missing something?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also
> >> >> > refers to a document that is based on windows vista, but will
> >> >> > review this as well.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > S Roberts
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me
> >> >> >> > to where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a
> >> >> >> > windows-7 pre-installed machine (single disk) in a
> >> >> >> > dual-boot set up, please?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > S Roberts
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