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Today's Topics:

1. Re: PERC 5/E SAS RAID in Dell PowerEdge 1950/2950
(Brian A. Seklecki)
2. Re: LVM support in FreeBSD (David Robillard)
3. rpc.lockd stalls (Tom Ierna)
4. Re: rpc.lockd stalls (Kris Kennaway)
5. Re: rpc.lockd stalls (Chuck Swiger)
6. Re: LVM support in FreeBSD (Jeff Rollin)
7. Re: solaris (backyard)
8. Re: rpc.lockd stalls (Tom Ierna)
9. Re: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers (Paul Mather)
10. Re: rc.firewall rule for passive FTP (Noah)
11. Re: solaris (Jona Joachim)
12. Re: solaris (backyard)
13. Re: rpc.lockd stalls (Tom Ierna)
14. Re: rpc.lockd stalls (Kris Kennaway)
15. Re: rpc.lockd stalls (Chuck Swiger)
16. rc.firewall rule for passive FTP from FTP server side (Noah)
17. Migrating from postfix to postfix (Hair)
18. Re: rpc.lockd stalls (Kris Kennaway)
19. Re: rpc.lockd stalls (Tom Ierna)
20. Re: Migrating from postfix to postfix (Bill Moran)
21. Re: Migrating from postfix to postfix (Chuck Swiger)
22. Re: Migrating from postfix to postfix (Martin Hudec)
23. DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram (Josef Grosch)
24. Re: ports/java/jdk15 (Jona Joachim)
25. Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram (Marc G. Fournier)
26. Re: Xfce 4.3.90.2 + Xorg 6.9.0 with Compositor == SUPER buggy
? (Jud)
27. Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram (Brad Miele)
28. Re: Xorg install (g)
29. Re: PERC 5/E SAS RAID in Dell PowerEdge 1950/2950 (ke han)
30. Re: Xorg install (Chuck Swiger)
31. Strange processes left over from periodic daily (Glenn Gillis)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:49:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Brian A. Seklecki" <lava...@spiritual-machines.org>
Subject: Re: PERC 5/E SAS RAID in Dell PowerEdge 1950/2950
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Cc: wmo...@collaborativefusion.com
Message-ID: <2006090712...@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Brian A. Seklecki wrote:

> All:
>
> Does anyone have details about the new PERC 5/E SAS RAID controller Dell
> is (or will soon be) shipping in the 1950/2950?
>

For the record, this is mfi(4).

Yay!

~BAS


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:17:55 -0400
From: "David Robillard" <david.r...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LVM support in FreeBSD
To: "Jeff Rollin" <jeff....@gmail.com>
Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID:
<226ae0c60609071017w169...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

> Hi list,
>
> I'm wondering whether FreeBSD is able to support reading (at least, but
> preferably also writing) Linux LVM volumes? I have an itch to try FreeBSD on
> a desktop but all my data is in a Linux LVM.
>
> Is it possible?

I really have no idea if it works, but have you tried to export your
LVM volume via NFS and then mount it on your FreeBSD machine? All what
FreeBSD will see is an NFS volume which we all know work very well.

Just an idea,

David
--
David Robillard
UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA
CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator
Montreal: +1 514 966 0122


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:34:08 -0400
From: Tom Ierna <t...@shockergroup.com>
Subject: rpc.lockd stalls
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <56C924ED-9AF8-4575...@shockergroup.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

Hello, list.

For the purposes of ease of software and hardware management, I'm
attempting to run a set of PXE-booted Client machines as web/db or
mail servers.

The NFS/DHCP/YP servers are running on a 5.4-STABLE Server. I mostly
followed the PXE guide when building these systems.

All of the disk (except for swap) sits on the master Server (which
has a bunch of external drive sleds), and all of the Client machines
boot via Gig-E.

Client machines are running 5.4-STABLE as well, but it is not
compiled with the same kernel configuration as the master Server, as
the hardware is slightly different. Client machines share userland
with the Server.

At the moment I have one Client machine running about 40 domains of
web and db, with reasonably low traffic (less than 3Mbit/sec total)
and one Client machine booted from the master Server, but not doing
anything.

Resource utilization on the master Server seems pretty low.

Sporadically, there appear to be stalls on some locks with rpc.lockd.
These lock stalls exhibit "interesting" behavior on the Client
machines: Slots will fill up on Apache in the "W" state. SSH login
attempts to the client machine (passwd files get some user data via
YP) will hang and timeout. when I find a file (via Apache's extended
status) which appears to be one of the stalled locks, and I attempt
to do anything with the file via a shell on the client machine, such
as "cat" it, that shell will become unresponsive. Any process which
is stalled on one of these files cannot be killled.

On the server, the only symptom I've witnessed is that rpc.lockd
starts using a bit more proc than it usually does. Normal utilization
is 0.0, and when the problem is happening, proc might go up to 3.0 or
so. "cat"ing a file on the Server which appears stalled on the
Client, works fine.

A stop and start of nfslocking on the server seems to clear things
up. Apache on the client will recover on its own, I'm guessing after
each stalled lock reaches a timeout. I usually gracefully restart
Apache, which forces the recovery to happen faster.

As far as timing, it doesn't appear to be consistently periodic. It
doesn't appear to be load related - I suffered through a Digg of one
of the sites, and while the client machine served more bandwidth that
couple of days than it had in a month, this particular problem did
not occur.

Over the past three months or so, this issue has probably cropped up
three or four times.

What can I do to troubleshoot this? I would like to add more client
machines, but I can't until this problem is resolved.

Changing OS builds at this point, unless absolutely necessary, is not
something I want to do.

Thanks for any insight!

--
Tom Ierna
President
Shockergroup, Inc.

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:40:46 -0400
From: Kris Kennaway <kr...@obsecurity.org>
Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls
To: Tom Ierna <t...@shockergroup.com>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20060907174...@xor.obsecurity.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:34:08PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote:
> Hello, list.
>
> For the purposes of ease of software and hardware management, I'm
> attempting to run a set of PXE-booted Client machines as web/db or
> mail servers.
>
> The NFS/DHCP/YP servers are running on a 5.4-STABLE Server. I mostly
> followed the PXE guide when building these systems.
>
> All of the disk (except for swap) sits on the master Server (which
> has a bunch of external drive sleds), and all of the Client machines
> boot via Gig-E.
>
> Client machines are running 5.4-STABLE as well, but it is not
> compiled with the same kernel configuration as the master Server, as
> the hardware is slightly different. Client machines share userland
> with the Server.
>
> At the moment I have one Client machine running about 40 domains of
> web and db, with reasonably low traffic (less than 3Mbit/sec total)
> and one Client machine booted from the master Server, but not doing
> anything.
>
> Resource utilization on the master Server seems pretty low.
>
> Sporadically, there appear to be stalls on some locks with rpc.lockd.

rpc.lockd is unreliable in all versions of FreeBSD (although it may be
worse in 5.x), see the mailing list archives for extensive discussion
of this. Try turning it off and using mount_nfs -L instead to fake
the lock traffic (See the manpage).

Kris
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:44:05 -0700
From: Chuck Swiger <csw...@mac.com>
Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls
To: Tom Ierna <t...@shockergroup.com>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
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On Sep 7, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Tom Ierna wrote:
> For the purposes of ease of software and hardware management, I'm
> attempting to run a set of PXE-booted Client machines as web/db or
> mail servers.

It is perhaps reasonable to run a diskless webserver, especially if
it is serving mainly dynamically generated content.

Trying to run a database server or mail server without a disk strikes
me as a very bad idea. I am surprised that rpc.lockd is holding up
well enough to only go down about once a month; simply running the
locking tests which come with sendmail used to be enough to cause
rpc.lockd to crash...

Best of luck,
--
-Chuck

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:51:17 +0100
From: "Jeff Rollin" <jeff....@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LVM support in FreeBSD
To: "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID:
<8a0028260609071051j288...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 07/09/06, David Robillard <david.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I'm wondering whether FreeBSD is able to support reading (at least, but
> > preferably also writing) Linux LVM volumes? I have an itch to try
> FreeBSD on
> > a desktop but all my data is in a Linux LVM.
> >
> > Is it possible?
>
> I really have no idea if it works, but have you tried to export your
> LVM volume via NFS and then mount it on your FreeBSD machine? All what
> FreeBSD will see is an NFS volume which we all know work very well.
>
> Just an idea,
>
> David
> --


Yeah, I'm sure that would work - I already export most of my data via NFS
anyway - except that the machine I was going to try it on is the one with
the LVM data, thus I can't export it as NFS from Linux whilst FreeBSD is
running on the bare hardware (or can I?). Thanks anyway.

(FYI, the other machine I *could* try it on is a laptop; I actually did
intend to use FreeBSD as the primary OS on it at one point, but had zero
luck with either of the wifi cards (one internal, one cardbus - the cardbus
one is there because the internal one also refuses to work in Linux) in it.
A laptop with no network access isn't much good to me! :-( )

Jeff Rollin
--
Proud Linux user since 1998


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:01:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: backyard <backyard...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: solaris
To: White Hat <pigskin...@yahoo.com>, FreeBSD Users Questions
<freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Cc: Freminlins <fremi...@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2006090718010...@web83113.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

--- White Hat <pigskin...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- Freminlins <fremi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 06/09/06, White Hat <pigskin...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have
> > > tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says,
> it
> > is
> > > just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is
> not
> > even
> > > close.

yeah cause most users want to use an MDI instead of a
PDF (inside joke, anyone in the telecomm industry who
does work for cell carriers or one in particular might
get)

> >
> >
> > True, but also compare the cost. Not even close...
>
> Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is
> suitability to task. If it is free and it does not
> work, what good is it?
>

"...but most users" only care about writing letters
and resumes; openoffice does this fine. Even spits out
a PDF for me to email away with a coversheet. And then
there is always SunOffice... Since spending money
seems to be the solution for all of the problems I
have with windows and the lack of integrated features
it contains. Maybe I should go out and get a Quad
AMDx2 motherboard and fill it with FX series chips to
handle XP being slower then Warp, but alas windows
still has no real support for 64-bit chips. Oh and it
sure would be a pain to have to reinstall EVERYTHING
because the PNP windows machine won't let me switch a
motherboard on it.

> > He/she does
> > > not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours
> > in a
> > > frustrating attempt to get it to run.
> >

if I buy a chain saw I take the time to read the
manufacturers suggested method to adjust the chain
tension. Maybe I'm not the normal person, but stuff
never works out of the box, and not taking the time to
read the manual is the users fault. and unlike windows
products the online help for FreeBSD and GNU in
general is incredible. Windows expects the use is an
idiot and makes no attempt to explain how the command
line switches work, or what registry keys do, or what
the blue-screen-o-death errors refer to.

> >
> > This is where you are completely wrong. I work for
> > an ISP. I'm not
> > responsible for tech support but I keep my "ear to
> > the ground". A VERY large
> > number of callers have problems configuring
> Outlook
> > Express, for example. No
> > matter what the polls say, the experience is often
> > very different. They may
> > not read the manuals (because they are no longer
> > supplied), they just ring a
> > call centre instead.
>
> Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually
> it
> can be obtained for an additonal cost which I
> suppose
> is better than nothing. The same lack of
> documentation
> plagues every facet of software today. Of course, it
> has been a boon for the after market book manual
> publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so
> called
> help line assistants who are nothing more than
> company
> mouth pieces who have at most a superficial
> knowledge
> of the product that they are suppose to be assistant
> a
> customer with. I had the experience of talking with
> a
> customer support moron who tried to sell me a new
> router while I attempted to explain the router was
> fine, but the installation CD was defective. I
> eventually just sent it back for a replacement.
> Usually these individuals are barely equipped to
> handle the job they are given.

which is why If i spend 300 on a license for windows
and 600 for a license for office I should get the
manual. Online help is useless in the windows world.
Nothing is more frustrating then having an error code
thrown in windows and the help system not having any
clue on what the error code is, but plenty of
information about how simple setting this thing up is.
Even more frustrating is the 15 chapters on how you
click the mouse and use the start menu.

>
> However, you have made my point. If a user cannot
> decipher how to configure a simple thing like
> Outlook
> Express, and there are programs available that will
> do
> it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable
> of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the
> mind
> -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is
> handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user
> cannot configure something when it is simplified
> down
> to that level.

I never thought the average user should have to set it
all up. I'm working towards deploying the system
amongst friends already configured becuase once it is
it don't break, is easy to use, and lightyears faster.
Make a PKzip of your windows install and try to copy
it to another machine. It doesn't happen, but if
someone took the time to setup FreeBSD they could copy
it on a million machines, and the users would never be
the wiser. Why can't I just zip up my windows machine
and keep a tape ready to go? why should it be an
ordeal to get it configured again. This is basically
what Apple did with Mac, and if they would just
release OS X on PC I wonder how fast the windows
market would shrink. As projects like PCBSD and
DesktopBSD advance it will be easier and easier to
convince folks windows is NOT the only kid on the
block.

>
> > The average user
> > > does not care about configuring firewall, AV or
> > > Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with
> > perhaps
> > > Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way.
> >
> >
> > That's one statement contradicting the other.
>
> How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run
> them and case closed. Neither one requires any
> significant configuration. The defaults work just
> fine
> for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy
> since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program,
> but
> I just happen to prefer Counter Spy.
>
> BTW, if MS actually does market it 'One Care'
> program
> suite, that might even obsolete that entire process.
> I
> don't think they will offer it with the OS though.
> Too
> much of a chance the government will protest.
> Personally I believe a company should be allowed to
> market its product anyway it wants without
> government
> intervention; however, that is entirely another
> story.

and I think a company should be stopped by the
government for stealing code from a competitor or
potential licensor, hence: alpha chipset support in
NT4 and 3.5, and no SP5 for Windows 2000 and no real
replacement for the aging NT beast. XP is a joke,
slower, and annoying if you work in an environment
constantly mapping network drives to the same
letters... Not to mention security should be part of
the OS. Why should a person spend 300 on a license to
spend another 100 on the software that makes it
secure. A recent article by "Information Week" Sept
4, 2006 edition; article "Windows After Vista":
Microsoft itself admits it maybe should use a virtutal
machine to support the old software and hardware so
they can remove the old and slow capatability code
from the protected system enviroment. hmm, it took em
10 years and thousands of exploits to figure out they
should use a "jail" system to make the kernel faster
and more secure by not allowing the old and flawed
programs with exploits due to the hacks they used to
make em work in the first place to talk to the system
directly, nor be part of the kernel directly; What a
concept.


-brian


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:16:36 -0400
From: Tom Ierna <t...@shockergroup.com>
Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls
To: Chuck Swiger <csw...@mac.com>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <E200704E-E445-4843...@shockergroup.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

On Sep 7, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> Trying to run a database server or mail server without a disk
> strikes me as a very bad idea.

This is unfortunate - the "client" machines I have chosen have no
front-panel disk sleds. Hardware administration will be a bear if
they each have to have their own disks. Software-wise, I was hoping
to have them all share a common Kernel and userland too, so I only
have to update software in one place.

> I am surprised that rpc.lockd is holding up well enough to only go
> down about once a month; simply running the locking tests which
> come with sendmail used to be enough to cause rpc.lockd to crash...

I will be using qmail, when I get to that stage. qmail is supposed to
be rather safe, even over NFS.

> Best of luck,
> --
> -Chuck

Thanks, it sounds like you think I need it :)

I'm open to suggestions on a better method of accomplishing my goals.

Best,
-Tom

--
Tom Ierna
President
Shockergroup, Inc.

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:17:28 -0400
From: Paul Mather <pa...@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Subject: Re: cups 1.2.2 and parallel port printers
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Cc: Robert Huff <rober...@rcn.com>
Message-ID: <1157653048.3...@zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:42:11 -0400, Robert Huff <rober...@rcn.com>
wrote:

> ra...@frontiernet.net writes:
>
> > anybody seen this behavior before? or have a clue?
>
> I don't know if this is your problem, but I have seen similar
> issues.
> _In my case_, CUPS as ported does not like the permissions on
> /dev/lpt0*. They default to "crw-------"; setting them to
> "crw-rw-rw-" makes the parallel printer appear.
> There should be a way to tall devfs to change those
> permissions
> automatically, but I haven't been able to figure it out.
>
>
>
> Robert Huff

I have this in my /etc/devfs.rules file on a system successfully using
CUPS with a parallel port printer:


[localrules=10]
add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups


(I also have 'devfs_system_ruleset="localrules"' in my /etc/rc.conf
file.)

That makes sure that CUPS can access the lpt* devices (including the
lpt*.ctl devices). Mode 0660 also ensures that not everyone can access
lpt*, just root and members of the cups group (i.e., CUPS).

Cheers,

Paul.
--
e-mail: pa...@gromit.dlib.vt.edu

"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa


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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:19:32 -0700
From: Noah <adm...@enabled.com>
Subject: Re: rc.firewall rule for passive FTP
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <450062B4...@enabled.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Noah <adm...@enabled.com> writes:
>
>
>> what is a good rule to allow passive FTP to work.
>>
>> the following rules still blocks passive FTP.
>>
>> #/** Allow setup of FTP PASSIVE **/
>> ${fwcmd} add allow tcp from any to ${ip} 49152-65534 setup
>>
>
> If the passive FTP client is on ${ip}, then that's the wrong
> direction; it needs to be able to *send* the SYN.
>

the {$ip} refers to the IP address of rthe server. might you please
help me rewrite this rule?

Cheers,
Noah

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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:20:01 +0200
From: Jona Joachim <ja...@web.de>
Subject: Re: solaris
To: White Hat <pigskin...@yahoo.com>
Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <450062D1...@web.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

White Hat wrote:
> --- Freminlins <fremi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 06/09/06, White Hat <pigskin...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I have
>>> tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it
>> is
>>> just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not
>> even
>>> close.
>>
>> True, but also compare the cost. Not even close...
>
> Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is
> suitability to task. If it is free and it does not
> work, what good is it?

What feature(s) exactly do you need that OpenOffice doesn't have?
In what way is MS Office better concerning this (these) feature(s)?

--jona


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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:34:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: backyard <backyard...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: solaris
To: FreeBSD Users Questions <freebsd-...@freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <2006090718341...@web83108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

--- White Hat <pigskin...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>
> > > Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame.
> >
> > In Windows, yes. In FreeBSD I can't see a lack.
>
> You are kidding right. I can find vastly more
> documentation available for a win32 machine than for
> FBSD. In fact, the lact of documentation is one of
> the
> reasons that support groups like this evolved. To my
> great dismay, I am forced to search for and then
> download documentation via the web. Even then, that
> is
> often dated. Not anyones fault, it is just the way
> it
> goes.
>
> > > The same lack of documentation
> > > plagues every facet of software today.
> >
> > No it doesn't. FreeBSD is well documented.
>
> It is above average, I will agree. However, if it
> were
> really perfect then this forum would not exist.
>

No, it is forums like this that help improve the
documentation in general. And hopefully give the basic
outline when things are solved to allow documentation
to be written. Just like Microsofts Forum for their
MCSE people.

> >
> > However, you have made my point.
> >
> > No I haven't. I have contradicted your point. You
> > said " A very large
> > majority of users simply want to use their PCs for
> > email, occasional word
> > processing and possible game playing." I am saying
> > that using XP as you
> > suggested is not as easy as you suggest for a very
> > large number of people.
>
> If that were true, MS would not rule 90+ percent of
> the PCs in use today.

if they didn't make OEM pc manufacturers sign
contracts REQUIRING they distribute MS-DOS/Windows or
loose their OEM status to deal microsoft products this
number would likey be a lot smaller. Probably with
Warp or Linux as its major competitor.

>Why do you think users in
> third
> rate countries pirate MS when they could get FBSD
> for
> free?

Doom3? Maybe just because they can make money doing
it, that is the usual motivation for theifs. That and
a license in a country like Argentina (per our
Argentinian friends in the forum) costs on the order
of $1000 US dollars.

>I would not want to insult anyone; however, if
> you cannot install an MS operating system then
> perhaps
> you should consider another hobby. Even my wife's
> sister can handle that project, and that is a woman
> who considers a can opener a high tech device.

Installing is simple, making a restorable backup with
included utilities of the whole system is next to
impossible. Even with Sysinstall... Nothing more fun
then having a Microsoft unintended installation fail,
only to reboot and restart and having it magically
work fine.


> Please do me one favor, do not CC me. I am
> continually
> getting two copies of these. I subscribe to the
> list.
> I don't send you duplicate copies and therefore
> would
> appreciate the same cutesy. Perhaps my address was
> already inserted by a previous poster. If so, please
> do remove it.
>
> Thank You!

your welcome I think, I did delete the CC...
>
>
> --
>
> White Hat
> pigskin...@yahoo.com

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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:12:26 -0400
From: Tom Ierna <t...@shockergroup.com>
Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls
To: Kris Kennaway <kr...@obsecurity.org>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <10AE94A7-D3F5-44C5...@shockergroup.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed


On Sep 7, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:34:08PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote:
>>
>> Sporadically, there appear to be stalls on some locks with rpc.lockd.
>
> rpc.lockd is unreliable in all versions of FreeBSD (although it may be
> worse in 5.x), see the mailing list archives for extensive discussion
> of this. Try turning it off and using mount_nfs -L instead to fake
> the lock traffic (See the manpage).

Kris,

Is there a way to note -L via fstab? Since these machines are PXE
booted, unmounting and re-mounting with -L will be problematic, and
I'd like them to inherit this property at reboot.

Thanks,
-Tom

--
Tom Ierna
President
Shockergroup, Inc.

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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:39:41 -0400
From: Kris Kennaway <kr...@obsecurity.org>
Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls
To: Tom Ierna <t...@shockergroup.com>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kr...@obsecurity.org>
Message-ID: <20060907183...@xor.obsecurity.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 02:12:26PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote:
>
> On Sep 7, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>
> >On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:34:08PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote:
> >>
> >>Sporadically, there appear to be stalls on some locks with rpc.lockd.
> >
> >rpc.lockd is unreliable in all versions of FreeBSD (although it may be
> >worse in 5.x), see the mailing list archives for extensive discussion
> >of this. Try turning it off and using mount_nfs -L instead to fake
> >the lock traffic (See the manpage).
>
> Kris,
>
> Is there a way to note -L via fstab? Since these machines are PXE
> booted, unmounting and re-mounting with -L will be problematic, and
> I'd like them to inherit this property at reboot.

Yes, use the -o format, see the manpage.

Kris
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 11:57:40 -0700
From: Chuck Swiger <csw...@mac.com>
Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls
To: Tom Ierna <t...@shockergroup.com>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
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On Sep 7, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Tom Ierna wrote:
> On Sep 7, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:
>> Trying to run a database server or mail server without a disk
>> strikes me as a very bad idea.
>
> This is unfortunate - the "client" machines I have chosen have no
> front-panel disk sleds. Hardware administration will be a bear if
> they each have to have their own disks. Software-wise, I was hoping
> to have them all share a common Kernel and userland too, so I only
> have to update software in one place.

I can see your reasoning, however, it's not especially difficult to
keep many FreeBSD systems updated against a single machine configured
to build out new versions of the kernel, userland, and installed
ports when needed. [1]

The thing is, software like mail servers and the database are usually
I/O bound, not CPU-bound; when you get under enough load to matter,
usually what you need to do is add more disk spindles and spread DB
tables or logfiles or mailspool/queuedir locations amongst the extra
disks.

>> I am surprised that rpc.lockd is holding up well enough to only go
>> down about once a month; simply running the locking tests which
>> come with sendmail used to be enough to cause rpc.lockd to crash...
>
> I will be using qmail, when I get to that stage. qmail is supposed
> to be rather safe, even over NFS.

Yes, agreed-- qmail + maildir rather than mbox format is probably
your best bet for doing operations over NFS.

>> Best of luck,
>> --
>> -Chuck
>
> Thanks, it sounds like you think I need it :)

Well, yes. But I wouldn't be unhappy if you found something that
works for your needs, even if it isn't what I would recommend myself.
At least some of the time, I even learn things from people who
configure things "strangely" from my perspective...

> I'm open to suggestions on a better method of accomplishing my goals.

[1]: Mount /usr/src & /usr/obj from the buildserver on each machine,
do the update process, and then rsync over or mount /usr/ports/
packages, and use portupgrade or whatever to update or install from
the precompiled packages.

--
-Chuck

------------------------------

Message: 16
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:00:30 -0700
From: Noah <adm...@enabled.com>
Subject: rc.firewall rule for passive FTP from FTP server side
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <45006C4E...@enabled.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

It appears that FTP clients using FTP are not able to interact passively
with my FTP server. I am wondering if there is a rule somebody could
point me to that works rather well.

${ip} is the IP address fo the server (not the client).

this does not work.

---- snip ----
#/** Allow setup of FTP PASSIVE **/
${fwcmd} add allow tcp from ${ip} to any 1024-65534 keep-state
${fwcmd} add allow tcp from ${ip} to any 21 keep-state

--- snip ----


cheers,
Noah


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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:07:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hair <ha...@ctc.net>
Subject: Migrating from postfix to postfix
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.06...@katie.ctc.net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


Hello, the company I work for has decided to host web and mail internally
instead of paying a hosting company. I have gotten freebsd set up and
postfix and squirrelmail up and running. Is there a way to migrate saved
messages from the old server to the new one? I tried simply stopping
postfix on both servers, copy /var/mail/username and restart postfix, but
the copied mail does not show up. Thanks.

--Tommy Vielkanowitz

------------------------------

Message: 18
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:23:37 -0400
From: Kris Kennaway <kr...@obsecurity.org>
Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls
To: Tom Ierna <t...@shockergroup.com>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kr...@obsecurity.org>
Message-ID: <20060907192...@xor.obsecurity.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 03:19:51PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote:
>
> On Sep 7, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>
> >On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 02:12:26PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote:
> >>Is there a way to note -L via fstab? Since these machines are PXE
> >>booted, unmounting and re-mounting with -L will be problematic, and
> >>I'd like them to inherit this property at reboot.
> >
> >Yes, use the -o format, see the manpage.
>
> Under the man page for mount_nfs, I have the following:
>
> -o Options are specified with a -o flag followed by a
> comma sepa-
> rated string of options. See the mount(8) man page for
> possible
> options and their meanings. The following NFS specific
> options
> are also available:
> ...
> Historic -o Options
> ...
> lockd Same as not specifying -L.
> ...
>
> It doesn't have any other reference to -L. Are mounts specified in
> fstab automatically non-locking, or is the man page incorrect?

Prefixing with 'no' negates an option.

Kris
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:19:51 -0400
From: Tom Ierna <t...@shockergroup.com>
Subject: Re: rpc.lockd stalls
To: Kris Kennaway <kr...@obsecurity.org>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
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On Sep 7, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 02:12:26PM -0400, Tom Ierna wrote:
>> Is there a way to note -L via fstab? Since these machines are PXE
>> booted, unmounting and re-mounting with -L will be problematic, and
>> I'd like them to inherit this property at reboot.
>
> Yes, use the -o format, see the manpage.

Under the man page for mount_nfs, I have the following:

-o Options are specified with a -o flag followed by a
comma sepa-
rated string of options. See the mount(8) man page for
possible
options and their meanings. The following NFS specific
options
are also available:
...
Historic -o Options
...
lockd Same as not specifying -L.
...

It doesn't have any other reference to -L. Are mounts specified in
fstab automatically non-locking, or is the man page incorrect?

Thanks,
-Tom


--
Tom Ierna
President
Shockergroup, Inc.

------------------------------

Message: 20
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:26:58 -0400
From: Bill Moran <wmo...@collaborativefusion.com>
Subject: Re: Migrating from postfix to postfix
To: Hair <ha...@ctc.net>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20060907152658....@collaborativefusion.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

In response to Hair <ha...@ctc.net>:
>
> Hello, the company I work for has decided to host web and mail internally
> instead of paying a hosting company. I have gotten freebsd set up and
> postfix and squirrelmail up and running. Is there a way to migrate saved
> messages from the old server to the new one? I tried simply stopping
> postfix on both servers, copy /var/mail/username and restart postfix, but
> the copied mail does not show up. Thanks.

I assume from this that you're using mbox storage.

Messages in the "inbox" are indeed in /var/mail/username, but messages in
other folders (outbox, trash, etc) will usually be somewhere in the
user's home directory, although this is dependent on what kind of
IMAP server you use (which you didn't mention).

--
Bill Moran
Collaborative Fusion Inc.

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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:37:13 -0700
From: Chuck Swiger <csw...@mac.com>
Subject: Re: Migrating from postfix to postfix
To: Hair <ha...@ctc.net>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <C45C1A02-E6DD-45F2...@mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Hair wrote:
> Hello, the company I work for has decided to host web and mail
> internally
> instead of paying a hosting company. I have gotten freebsd set up and
> postfix and squirrelmail up and running. Is there a way to migrate
> saved
> messages from the old server to the new one? I tried simply stopping
> postfix on both servers, copy /var/mail/username and restart
> postfix, but
> the copied mail does not show up. Thanks.

Of course, you realize that Postfix is only an MTA; you probably need
something like an IMAP or POP3 server for most MUA's to access the
stored email...? And if you have been using POP3 in the past,
normally the email is kept on the local user machines and not on the
mail server; in that case, you will have to upload the saved email
from their local user machines back to the mailhost you are setting up.

--
-Chuck

------------------------------

Message: 22
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:48:23 +0200
From: Martin Hudec <cor...@aeternal.net>
Subject: Re: Migrating from postfix to postfix
To: Hair <ha...@ctc.net>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <45007787...@aeternal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hello,

Hair wrote:
> Hello, the company I work for has decided to host web and mail internally
> instead of paying a hosting company. I have gotten freebsd set up and
> postfix and squirrelmail up and running. Is there a way to migrate saved
> messages from the old server to the new one? I tried simply stopping
> postfix on both servers, copy /var/mail/username and restart postfix, but
> the copied mail does not show up. Thanks.

Check for mbox support in your pop3/imap service as it seems to me that
you use mbox as mailformat. Also check access rights, check
configuration of pop3/imap service (whatever software you use for this,
like Courier, Dovecot etc.).

Martin


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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:50:48 -0700
From: Josef Grosch <jgr...@juniper.net>
Subject: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org, freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <45008628...@juniper.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


Hello,

I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I compiled
a PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It crashes
during heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone have
experience with this sort of machine and would you care to share your
kernel config file and/or advice.


Thanks

Josef

--
FreeBSD 6.1 |
Josef Grosch | You can't expect to wield supreme executive power
jgr...@juniper.net | just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!


------------------------------

Message: 24
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:44:08 +0200
From: Jona Joachim <ja...@web.de>
Subject: Re: ports/java/jdk15
To: "B. Cook" <bc...@poklib.org>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <45004C58...@web.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

B. Cook wrote:
> Jona Joachim wrote:
>> B. Cook wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Trying to build java 1.5.0 and it looks like it's needs linux java
>>> 1.4.2? is this right?
>>>
>>> ===> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.12 You must manually fetch the J2SE SDK
>>> self-extracting file for the Linux platform
>>> (j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin) from
>>> http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailId=j2sdk-1.4.2_12-oth-JPR&SiteId=JSC&TransactionId=noreg,
>>>
>>> place it in /usr/ports/distfiles and then run make again.
>>> *** Error code 1
>>>
>>> Stop in /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jdk14.
>>> *** Error code 1
>>>
>>> Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk15.
>>
>> Yes, that's right. jdk14 is needed to compile jdk15, welcome to the
>> world of Java ;)
>> Because of license issues you have to fetch the linux jdk14 binary as
>> well as some distfiles required by jdk15 manually as indicated above.
>>
>> However you don't have to build jdk15 as there is an official FreeBSD
>> binary available!
>> See: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?44343C8E.2050707
>>
>> Just install java/diablo-jdk15 and it will install the binary
>>
>> --jona
>
> So if I just wanted a java binary.. I could also just install the
> java/diablo-jre15

That depends on what you need.
The JRE (Java Runtime Environment) comes with the Java Virtual Machine
and standard libraries: everything you need to run Java binaries.
However, if you want to want to compile Java applications from source
you will need the JDK (Java Development Kit) which comes with the JRE +
the javac compiler and everything else you need to create Java bytecode.

--jona


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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 18:26:00 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Marc G. Fournier" <scr...@hub.org>
Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram
To: Josef Grosch <jgr...@juniper.net>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org, freebsd-...@freebsd.org,
freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <2006090718...@ganymede.hub.org>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Josef Grosch wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I compiled
> a PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It crashes
> during heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone have
> experience with this sort of machine and would you care to share your
> kernel config file and/or advice.

Have you tried a non-PAE kernel? If its a new unit, I imagine its 64bit,
which, as far as I'm aware, doesn't require PAE ... ?

----
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email . scr...@hub.org MSN . scr...@hub.org
Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664


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Message: 26
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:34:29 -0400
From: "Jud" <jud...@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: Xfce 4.3.90.2 + Xorg 6.9.0 with Compositor == SUPER buggy
?
To: "Frank Staals" <frank...@gmx.net>, ques...@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <1157664869.20...@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"


On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:58:49 +0200, "Frank Staals" <frank...@gmx.net>
said:
> I recently decided to have some fun with the latest Xfce release ( or
> well; when I installed it it was, at the moment there is an RC1 ) and
> composite stuff. Allthough what I found out was that xfwm4 crashed when
> I enabled transparency for inactive windows and moved some aterms
> around. So my question was if someone else is running Xfce 4.4 beta and
> has the same problems ? And if someone has a solusion for it. I guess
> that the xorg port is the weakest link ATM. I can't imagine people
> actually using such composite settings when the wm crashes every 15
> minutes ... so I asume it runs better with xorg7. So a sort of second
> question would be: is there an easy way of installing, but as important
> deinstalling, Xorg7 ?

IIANM, Xorg 6.9 is exactly the same as 7.0, just packaged all together
(6.9) rather than in separate modules (7.0). Thus I believe the
assumption that installing 7.0 would improve matters is incorrect.

FYI, RC1 without compositing enabled works flawlessly so far for me on
-CURRENT. I'm running Xorg 6.9, portupgraded less than a week ago.

Jud
--
"I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - Douglas Adams

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Message: 27
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:44:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brad Miele <bmi...@ipnstock.com>
Subject: Re: DL 380/G5 with 16G of ram
To: "Marc G. Fournier" <scr...@hub.org>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org, freebsd-...@freebsd.org,
freebsd-...@freebsd.org, Josef Grosch <jgr...@juniper.net>
Message-ID: <2006090717...@shanty.ipnstock.com>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

I have 2 new dl380/G5s which threw the Memory above 4G ignored errors
unless i used a PAE kernel. my kernel config is below, the machine has
been up and has had no trouble with portupgrade/buildworld, etc. but it
is not in production yet either and i have not put a ton of stress on it.
I have 6G ram, so not nearly as much.

fwiw, here is my conf. I pretty much rolled the PAE config into my custom
conf. The custom conf has as much as I possible could lose stripped out.

machine i386
cpu I686_CPU
ident MYBOXYO

# To make an SMP kernel, the next line is needed
options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel

# To make a PAE kernel, the next option is needed
options PAE # Physical Address Extensions
Kernel

# for apache2
options ACCEPT_FILTER_HTTP

# Compile acpi in statically since the module isn't built properly. Most
# machines which support large amounts of memory require acpi.
device acpi

# Don't build modules with this kernel config, since they are not built
with
# the correct options headers.
makeoptions NO_MODULES=yes

# What follows is a list of drivers that are normally in GENERIC, but
either
# don't work or are untested with PAE. Be very careful before enabling
any
# of these drivers. Drivers which use DMA and don't handle 64 bit
physical
# address properly may cause data corruption when used in a machine with
more
# than 4 gigabytes of memory.

nodevice ahb
nodevice amd
nodevice sym
nodevice trm
nodevice adv
nodevice adw
nodevice aha
nodevice aic
nodevice bt
nodevice ncv
nodevice nsp
nodevice stg
nodevice asr
nodevice dpt
nodevice mly
nodevice hptmv
nodevice ida
nodevice mlx
nodevice pst
nodevice agp
nodevice de
nodevice txp
nodevice vx
nodevice nve
nodevice pcn
nodevice sf
nodevice sis
nodevice ste
nodevice tl
nodevice tx
nodevice vr
nodevice wb
nodevice cs
nodevice ed
nodevice ex
nodevice ep
nodevice fe
nodevice ie
nodevice lnc
nodevice sn
nodevice xe
nodevice wlan
nodevice wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support
nodevice wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support
nodevice wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support
nodevice an
nodevice ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's
nodevice ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer)
nodevice ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath
nodevice awi
nodevice ral
nodevice wi
nodevice uhci
nodevice ohci
nodevice ehci
nodevice usb
nodevice ugen
nodevice uhid
nodevice ukbd
nodevice ulpt
nodevice umass
nodevice ums
nodevice ural
nodevice urio
nodevice uscanner
nodevice aue
nodevice axe
nodevice cdce
nodevice cue
nodevice kue
nodevice rue

#####
makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug
symbols
#options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler
options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler
options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption
options INET # InterNETworking
#options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols
options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support
options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists
options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big
directories
options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device
options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client
options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server
options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires
NFSCLIENT
options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem
options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem
options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires
PSEUDOFS)
options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework
options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables.
options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP
THIS!]
options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4
options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5
options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing
SCSI
options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support
options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory
options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues
options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores
options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time
extensions
options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev
options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive.

device apic # I/O APIC

# Bus support.
device eisa
device pci

# Floppy drives
device fdc

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device ata
device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering

# SCSI Controllers
#device aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters
#device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters,
AIC-6[23]60.

# SCSI peripherals
device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
device ch # SCSI media changers
device da # Direct Access (disks)
device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc)
device cd # CD
device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE)

# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5*

# RAID controllers
# device ida # Compaq Smart RAID

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller
device atkbd # AT keyboard
device psm # PS/2 mouse
device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer
device vga # VGA video card driver
device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device sc
device agp # support several AGP chipsets

# Power management support (see NOTES for more options)
#device apm
# Add suspend/resume support for the i8254.
device pmtimer

# Serial (COM) ports
device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports

# Parallel port
device ppc
device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required)

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these
NICs!
device miibus # MII bus support
device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet

# Pseudo devices.
device loop # Network loopback
device random # Entropy device
device ether # Ethernet support
device sl # Kernel SLIP
device ppp # Kernel PPP
device tun # Packet tunnel.
device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
device md # Memory "disks"
device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
# Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP.
device bpf # Berkeley packet filter

# USB support
device usb # USB Bus (required)


Brad
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VP Technology
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866 476 7862 x902
bmi...@ipnstock.com

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Josef Grosch wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've got a DL 380/G5 as an evalu unit. It has 16 gig of ram. I compiled a
>> PAE kernel but I'm finding that it is not very stable. It crashes during
>> heavy disk activity, ie. portupgrade -rav. Does anyone have experience with
>> this sort of machine and would you care to share your kernel config file
>> and/or advice.
>
> Have you tried a non-PAE kernel? If its a new unit, I imagine its 64bit,
> which, as far as I'm aware, doesn't require PAE ... ?
>
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Message: 28
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:58:18 -0400
From: g <g....@mac.com>
Subject: Re: Xorg install
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <15BD1FC1-101A-4965...@mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

i'm sorry what is top posting?

if it is offensive, i certainly don't mean to do it.

thanks for the advise.

g.
On Sep 7, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote:

> g wrote:
>
>> how do i do that? i'm a newbie.
>
> Well, for starters, try not top posting.
>
> Are you familiar with the process of updating the ports system either
> with cvsup or portsnap? If not, read the man pages. If yu still have
> questions, then check back here. I am assuming that you have never
> updated the ports on your system.
>
>
> --
> Gerard Seibert
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Message: 29
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:07:06 +0800
From: ke han <ke....@redstarling.com>
Subject: Re: PERC 5/E SAS RAID in Dell PowerEdge 1950/2950
To: "Brian A. Seklecki" <lava...@spiritual-machines.org>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org, wmo...@collaborativefusion.com
Message-ID: <09335E9A-54BA-4D94...@redstarling.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed


On Sep 8, 2006, at 12:49 AM, Brian A. Seklecki wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Brian A. Seklecki wrote:
>
>> All:
>>
>> Does anyone have details about the new PERC 5/E SAS RAID
>> controller Dell
>> is (or will soon be) shipping in the 1950/2950?
>>
>
> For the record, this is mfi(4).

Have you done an install of FreeBSD 6.1 on a 1950/2950? Does the
install kernel automatically recognize RAID arrays you have setup
with the PERC 5 bios? IOW, do I have to manually load some updated
module outside of the default 6.1 install and config?

thanks, ke han

>
> Yay!
>
> ~BAS
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Message: 30
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:07:54 -0700
From: Chuck Swiger <csw...@mac.com>
Subject: Re: Xorg install
To: g <g....@mac.com>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <571C4CB6-B571-41A8...@mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

On Sep 7, 2006, at 4:58 PM, g wrote:
> i'm sorry what is top posting?

Compare:

A: Putting the reply above the question.
Q: What is top posting?

...to:

Q: What is the preferred way to exchange email on the FreeBSD lists?
A: Quote what you reply to [1], then put your response or answer
afterwards.

:-)

> if it is offensive, i certainly don't mean to do it.

No harm done.
It's just much easier to follow conversations on the mailing list
when people do not top-post.

--
-Chuck

[1]: And if there is a lot of content, trim all but a relevant
paragraph or two,
rather than quoting hundreds of lines in order to add a one-line
statement.

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Message: 31
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:12:07 -0700
From: Glenn Gillis <gl...@elaw.org>
Subject: Strange processes left over from periodic daily
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
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