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Today's Topics:
1. ispCP or alternative? (Michael W. Lucas)
2. Re: ispCP or alternative? (Mark Price)
3. Re: ispCP or alternative? (Bob Martin)
4. Re: ispCP or alternative? (Bob Martin)
5. Re: ispCP or alternative? (Kahlil Erwin S. Talledo)
6. Re: ispCP or alternative? (Joel Jans)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:45:10 -0500
From: "Michael W. Lucas" <mwl...@blackhelicopters.org>
Subject: ispCP or alternative?
To: i...@freebsd.org
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<20091209144...@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org>
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Hi,
I'm in need of a general "control panel" solution for an ISP. I'm
considering ispCP, but there appear to be several minor annoyances
with getting it to run on FreeBSD. Other options include dtc
(/usr/ports/sysutils/dtc), CPanel, etc. It appears that there's many
pieces of software that work only on very specific FreeBSD revs, some
that don't seem to have been used for several years, etc.
Ideally, I'd have a piece of software with three levels of access:
admin level where our support staff could provision new domains, a
customer admin who could add and remove customer email accounts and
Web server access, and end-user access to their own email, forwarding,
etc.
What are you folks using successfully? Or, what have you tried to use
and wish you hadn't?
Thanks,
==ml
--
Michael W. Lucas mwl...@BlackHelicopters.org
http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/
Latest book: Cisco Routers for the Desperate, 2nd Edition
http://www.CiscoRoutersForTheDesperate.com/
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:18:46 -0500
From: Mark Price <mpr...@tqhosting.com>
Subject: Re: ispCP or alternative?
To: "Michael W. Lucas" <mwl...@blackhelicopters.org>
Cc: freeb...@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
<61b6fbec0912090718u51e...@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Michael,
We use and support DirectAdmin on FreeBSD, I'd recommend you take a look at it:
Out of the box there are 3 levels of access - admin-level (superuser),
reseller-level (creates web hosting accounts), and user-level (web
hosting account owner). In practice if you are providing shared web
hosting service, your support staff would do most of their work at
reseller-level.
The end-user access you mentioned (i.e. someone who just has an email
account on a domain) isn't built into the base product but there is a
free plugin that should do what you want, details here
http://directadmin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22715
As with all control panels, there is a learning curve but I've found
DirectAdmin to be the best all around fit. It is stable and mature
unlike most of the open source ones, and doesn't cost a fortune or do
completely unexpected things like cPanel.
Regards,
Mark
RootBSD
http://www.rootbsd.net
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Michael W. Lucas
<mwl...@blackhelicopters.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm in need of a general "control panel" solution for an ISP. �I'm
> considering ispCP, but there appear to be several minor annoyances
> with getting it to run on FreeBSD. �Other options include dtc
> (/usr/ports/sysutils/dtc), CPanel, etc. �It appears that there's many
> pieces of software that work only on very specific FreeBSD revs, some
> that don't seem to have been used for several years, etc.
>
> Ideally, I'd have a piece of software with three levels of access:
> admin level where our support staff could provision new domains, a
> customer admin who could add and remove customer email accounts and
> Web server access, and end-user access to their own email, forwarding,
> etc.
>
> What are you folks using successfully? �Or, what have you tried to use
> and wish you hadn't?
>
> Thanks,
> ==ml
>
> --
> Michael W. Lucas � � � �mwl...@BlackHelicopters.org
> http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/
> Latest book: �Cisco Routers for the Desperate, 2nd Edition
> http://www.CiscoRoutersForTheDesperate.com/
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:18:22 -0600
From: Bob Martin <b...@buckhorn.net>
Subject: Re: ispCP or alternative?
To: "Michael W. Lucas" <mwl...@blackhelicopters.org>
Cc: i...@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
<c32604580912090918ib3...@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Michael W. Lucas
<mwl...@blackhelicopters.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm in need of a general "control panel" solution for an ISP. �I'm
> considering ispCP, but there appear to be several minor annoyances
> with getting it to run on FreeBSD. �Other options include dtc
> (/usr/ports/sysutils/dtc), CPanel, etc. �It appears that there's many
> pieces of software that work only on very specific FreeBSD revs, some
> that don't seem to have been used for several years, etc.
>
> Ideally, I'd have a piece of software with three levels of access:
> admin level where our support staff could provision new domains, a
> customer admin who could add and remove customer email accounts and
> Web server access, and end-user access to their own email, forwarding,
> etc.
>
> What are you folks using successfully? �Or, what have you tried to use
> and wish you hadn't?
>
> Thanks,
> ==ml
>
> --
> Michael W. Lucas � � � �mwl...@BlackHelicopters.org
> http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/
> Latest book: �Cisco Routers for the Desperate, 2nd Edition
> http://www.CiscoRoutersForTheDesperate.com/
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>
We've been using hsphere for years with good results, but it sounds
like it might be an 800lb gorilla for your needs. Not free, but plays
very nice with FreeBSD.
Plesk and FreeBSD don't mix.
Bob Martin
BBM Hosting - http://www.bbmhosting.com
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:23:47 -0600
From: Bob Martin <b...@buckhorn.net>
Subject: Re: ispCP or alternative?
To: "Kahlil Erwin S. Talledo" <ksta...@binarysalad.com>
Cc: i...@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
<c32604580912091023i1a9...@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Kahlil Erwin S. Talledo
<ksta...@binarysalad.com> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> which latest version of FreeBSD does hsphere supports? I heard alot of good stuff about it years ago and is not sure if they support 7.x now.. thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers,
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> k a h l i l � e r w i n � t a l l e d o
>
> tp: +1.284.440.0102
> im: talle...@yahoo.com
> fb: www.facebook.com/kstalledo
>
> "little knowledge that acts is worth infinitely more than
> much knowledge that is idle." �- k. gibran
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Bob Martin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Michael W. Lucas
>> <mwl...@blackhelicopters.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm in need of a general "control panel" solution for an ISP. �I'm
>>> considering ispCP, but there appear to be several minor annoyances
>>> with getting it to run on FreeBSD. �Other options include dtc
>>> (/usr/ports/sysutils/dtc), CPanel, etc. �It appears that there's many
>>> pieces of software that work only on very specific FreeBSD revs, some
>>> that don't seem to have been used for several years, etc.
>>>
>>> Ideally, I'd have a piece of software with three levels of access:
>>> admin level where our support staff could provision new domains, a
>>> customer admin who could add and remove customer email accounts and
>>> Web server access, and end-user access to their own email, forwarding,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> What are you folks using successfully? �Or, what have you tried to use
>>> and wish you hadn't?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ==ml
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael W. Lucas � � � �mwl...@BlackHelicopters.org
>>> http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/
>>> Latest book: �Cisco Routers for the Desperate, 2nd Edition
>>> http://www.CiscoRoutersForTheDesperate.com/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> freeb...@freebsd.org mailing list
>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp
>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp...@freebsd.org"
>>>
>>
>> We've been using hsphere for years with good results, but it sounds
>> like it might be an 800lb gorilla for your needs. Not free, but plays
>> very nice with FreeBSD.
>>
>> Plesk and FreeBSD don't mix.
>>
>> Bob Martin
>> BBM Hosting - http://www.bbmhosting.com
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
They are up to 7.0. We have never had a problem using a higher
sub-version (e.g. 7.2 ) - but sometimes you have to lie to the
installer, and some of their support droids freak out.
Hsphere is far from flawless - but we have used and supported all of
the major CP's. Hsphere is about the best... At least until I find the
time to write my own.
Bob Martin
BBM Hosting - http://www.bbmhosting.com
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:52:47 -0500
From: "Kahlil Erwin S. Talledo" <ksta...@binarysalad.com>
Subject: Re: ispCP or alternative?
To: Bob Martin <b...@buckhorn.net>
Cc: "Michael W. Lucas" <mwl...@blackhelicopters.org>, i...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <05F5E6D8-CCA7-4CD1...@binarysalad.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Bob,
which latest version of FreeBSD does hsphere supports? I heard alot of good stuff about it years ago and is not sure if they support 7.x now.. thanks in advance.
Cheers,
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
k a h l i l e r w i n t a l l e d o
tp: +1.284.440.0102
im: talle...@yahoo.com
fb: www.facebook.com/kstalledo
"little knowledge that acts is worth infinitely more than
much knowledge that is idle." - k. gibran
On Dec 9, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Bob Martin wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Michael W. Lucas
> <mwl...@blackhelicopters.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm in need of a general "control panel" solution for an ISP. I'm
>> considering ispCP, but there appear to be several minor annoyances
>> with getting it to run on FreeBSD. Other options include dtc
>> (/usr/ports/sysutils/dtc), CPanel, etc. It appears that there's many
>> pieces of software that work only on very specific FreeBSD revs, some
>> that don't seem to have been used for several years, etc.
>>
>> Ideally, I'd have a piece of software with three levels of access:
>> admin level where our support staff could provision new domains, a
>> customer admin who could add and remove customer email accounts and
>> Web server access, and end-user access to their own email, forwarding,
>> etc.
>>
>> What are you folks using successfully? Or, what have you tried to use
>> and wish you hadn't?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ==ml
>>
>> --
>> Michael W. Lucas mwl...@BlackHelicopters.org
>> http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/
>> Latest book: Cisco Routers for the Desperate, 2nd Edition
>> http://www.CiscoRoutersForTheDesperate.com/
>> _______________________________________________
>> freeb...@freebsd.org mailing list
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp
>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp...@freebsd.org"
>>
>
> We've been using hsphere for years with good results, but it sounds
> like it might be an 800lb gorilla for your needs. Not free, but plays
> very nice with FreeBSD.
>
> Plesk and FreeBSD don't mix.
>
> Bob Martin
> BBM Hosting - http://www.bbmhosting.com
> _______________________________________________
> freeb...@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp...@freebsd.org"
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:45:47 +0200
From: Joel Jans <joel...@eenet.ee>
Subject: Re: ispCP or alternative?
To: "Kahlil Erwin S. Talledo" <ksta...@binarysalad.com>
Cc: Bob Martin <b...@buckhorn.net>, "Michael W. Lucas"
<mwl...@blackhelicopters.org>, i...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <4B201A8B...@eenet.ee>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>> ucas
>> <mwl...@blackhelicopters.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm in need of a general "control panel" solution for an ISP. I'm
>>> considering ispCP, but there appear to be several minor annoyances
>>> with getting it to run on FreeBSD. Other options include dtc
>>> (/usr/ports/sysutils/dtc), CPanel, etc. It appears that there's many
>>> pieces of software that work only on very specific FreeBSD revs, some
>>> that don't seem to have been used for several years, etc.
>>>
>>> Ideally, I'd have a piece of software with three levels of access:
>>> admin level where our support staff could provision new domains, a
>>> customer admin who could add and remove customer email accounts and
>>> Web server access, and end-user access to their own email, forwarding,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> What are you folks using successfully? Or, what have you tried to use
>>> and wish you hadn't?
>>>
Try Syscp, /usr/ports/sysutils/syscp, http://www.syscp.org/
JJ
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