Re: FreeBSD anti-competitive activities
deept...@gmail.com
> Just as soon as FreeBSD 8.0 came out, I downloaded a boot-only disc
> image and went off to reinstall FreeBSD (don't ask why). OK, it worked
> whatsoever. But as it turns out, I wasn't able to boot my Windows XP
> installation anymore. The system just froze when I tried booting my
> Windows XP slice. First I thought that the installation damaged the
> other partitions (someone added buggy code in sysinstall lately?). At
> that point I didn't dare to boot anything on the disk. I decided to
> give a try to Hiren's Boot CD, which has loads of warezed
> slicing/partitioning, recovery and backup tools, and also a loadable
> Mini Windows XP. I hoped I would be able to find out what happened.
>
> But guess what? Neither of the Boot CD tools were able to start up,
> not even the Mini Windows XP! They all froze just like my Windows XP.
> But that's just weird. On a whim, I disabled my disk drive in the BIOS
> settings. And guess what? Both the Mini Windows XP and the tools were
> able to start because of that. I was able to read the
> slices/partitions with them, and noticed that all my files on the
> FAT32 and NTFS slices were intact.
[...]
> sysinstall asked something new when I installed 8.0, something like
> "It is safe to use a disk geometry of 123/45/6789 on modern
> computers... Would you like to use this disk geometry?", I chose
> "Yes". Safe my ass. I guess my computer doesn't fit in sysinstall's
> definition of "modern".
Reinstalling FreeBSD and chosing "No" seems to have revived the Windows
partition.
Randi Harper
I'm not sure why I didn't see the original email in this thread -
maybe I saw the subject and figured it was a troll.
Seriously? FreeBSD anti-competitive activities? I suggest you wear
your tinfoil hat, because they are all out to get you.
It's a problem with sysinstall & libdisk. File a bug. That's generally
how problems are handled, not by claiming there's some sort of
anti-windows conspiracy.
-- randi
deept...@gmail.com
> Seriously? FreeBSD anti-competitive activities? I suggest you wear
> your tinfoil hat, because they are all out to get you.
>
> how problems are handled, not by claiming there's some sort of
> anti-windows conspiracy.
You'll need one of these: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sarcasm+detector
(in other words, http://www.sarcasmdetector.com/).
FreeBSD works fine. Windows borks. Maybe the issue can be alleviated for
Windows without affecting FreeBSD. But who will track this "bug" down
and do the hardware testing? I don't feel like doing it. I did not file
any reports because I felt like it would be another idle bug report to
be suspended around 2020.
KAYVEN RIESE
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, Randi Harper wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:56 AM, <deept...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> deept...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Just as soon as FreeBSD 8.0 came out, I downloaded a boot-only disc
. . . . .
>>> slicing/partitioning, recovery and backup tools, and also a loadable
>>> Mini Windows XP. I hoped I would be able to find out what happened.
>>>
>>> But guess what? Neither of the Boot CD tools were able to start up,
>> [...]
>>> sysinstall asked something new when I installed 8.0, something like
>>> "It is safe to use a disk geometry of 123/45/6789 on modern
>>> computers... Would you like to use this disk geometry?", I chose
>>> "Yes". Safe my ass. I guess my computer doesn't fit in sysinstall's
>>> definition of "modern".
>>
>> Reinstalling FreeBSD and chosing "No" seems to have revived the Windows
>> partition.
>
>
> I'm not sure why I didn't see the original email in this thread -
> maybe I saw the subject and figured it was a troll.
>
> Seriously? FreeBSD anti-competitive activities? I suggest you wear
> your tinfoil hat, because they are all out to get you.
>
> It's a problem with sysinstall & libdisk. File a bug. That's generally
> how problems are handled, not by claiming there's some sort of
> anti-windows conspiracy.
How does it go? Attribute to incompetence, not malice? I forget. Don't
really mean to call you FreeBSD guys incompetent. Maybe just a little 300
Spartans fighting off a million Persians. Somebody made a boo boo-- oh
wait.. was it the guy trying to use sysinstall and not the folks who wrote
it? Either way..
>
> -- randi
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<snip>
> boo boo-- oh wait.. was it the guy trying to use sysinstall and not the
> folks who wrote it? Either way..
I don't know. I had problems with booting without the boot manager (it
wouldn't) and I followed the directions step by step as they were wrote
in the hand book. It took a thread I found in Questions (I think) to
alert me that the problem wasn't me. Other users are having a similar
issue. A boot manager needs to be installed for the time being. It
doesn't bother me. I don't reboot often anymore. When I do, I just wait
for the selection time out to reach 0 so the boot process can continue.
Search the archives. I forget what the title of the post I found was
(it's somewhere on my machine, I'm too lazy to look as I'm heading to
bed right now but a bit of searching won't hurt you).
I say neither malice nor incompetence. Despite my own n00bish problems,
FreeBSD is a wonderful, wonderful system to use and manage. There are
some things here and there that I wish were different, but that's with
everything else. No one is content with what they have and always have a
critique for something. There is no such thing as 100% bug-free software
and there is no such thing as a test condition that accurately reflects
the real world when humans get involved.
Good night.
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KAYVEN RIESE
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, Programmer In Training wrote:
> On 04/05/10 22:04, KAYVEN RIESE wrote:
> <snip>
>
> I say neither malice nor incompetence. Despite my own n00bish problems,
I was only attempting to quote a saying. The saying talks about
incompetence. Somebody made a boo boo there is no conspiracy.
>
> --
> Yours In Christ,
>
> PIT
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KAYVEN RIESE
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, Programmer In Training wrote:
> On 04/05/10 22:04, KAYVEN RIESE wrote:
> <snip>
>
> I say neither malice nor incompetence. Despite my own n00bish problems,
I think I remember now.. "Never attribute to malice that which can be
explained by incompetence."
Somebody here knows that saying. I didn't mean to be a meanie.
>
> Good night.
>
> --
> Yours In Christ,
>
> PIT
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