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Today's Topics:
1. Bind within src-contrib (Joshua Bell)
2. Re: Bind within src-contrib (Frank Laszlo)
3. Re: Bind within src-contrib (Johnson David)
4. advocacy/87336: Problems with Web Site (Denis DeLaRoca)
5. Re: Bind within src-contrib (Frank Laszlo)
6. Re: www/87336: Problems with Web Site (Remko Lodder)
7. Re: Bind within src-contrib ( Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav )
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 11:36:22 -0500
From: Joshua Bell <jo...@oplink.net>
Subject: Bind within src-contrib
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20051012113622...@oplink.net>
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Hi,
I was attempting to build a minimal supfile, when I noticed that bind was included within contrib. This to me seems like something that should be included within the ports tree, or atleast be included in a portion of the tree with less crucial software.
I personally do not see a reason for this, but please enlighten me on why this is done.
-Josh
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:41:47 -0400
From: Frank Laszlo <las...@tvog.net>
Subject: Re: Bind within src-contrib
To: Joshua Bell <jo...@oplink.net>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <434D3CCB...@tvog.net>
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Joshua Bell wrote:
>Hi,
>
> I was attempting to build a minimal supfile, when I noticed that bind was included within contrib. This to me seems like something that should be included within the ports tree, or atleast be included in a portion of the tree with less crucial software.
>
> I personally do not see a reason for this, but please enlighten me on why this is done.
>
>-Josh
>
>
>
How would you like a system with no host(1), dig(1), or nslookup(1)? I
personally consider these tools essential for a freebsd system.
__________________________________________________
Frank Laszlo
System Administrator
The VonOstin Group
Email: las...@tvog.net
WWW: http://www.vonostingroup.com
Mobile: 248-863-7584
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:26:51 -0700
From: Johnson David <davidj...@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: Bind within src-contrib
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID:
<6F2F8FD3FBCF7A489CB1...@mvwcim1a.acuson.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
From: Frank Laszlo [mailto:las...@tvog.net]
> How would you like a system with no host(1), dig(1), or nslookup(1)? I
> personally consider these tools essential for a freebsd system.
Are these utilities used anywhere else in FreeBSD, such as the startup
scripts? Are they something required by the vast majority of users? If not,
I wouldn't consider them "essential". That doesn't mean I would move them to
ports, as there's a lot of other non-essential software in the base system
(biff, indent, etc.).
David
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:30:30 GMT
From: Denis DeLaRoca <dela...@mminternet.com>
Subject: advocacy/87336: Problems with Web Site
To: freebsd-gn...@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <200510121730....@www.freebsd.org>
>Number: 87336
>Category: advocacy
>Synopsis: Problems with Web Site
>Confidential: no
>Severity: serious
>Priority: high
>Responsible: freebsd-advocacy
>State: open
>Quarter:
>Keywords:
>Date-Required:
>Class: sw-bug
>Submitter-Id: current-users
>Arrival-Date: Wed Oct 12 17:40:13 GMT 2005
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator: Denis DeLaRoca
>Release: FreeBSD 5.4
>Organization:
>Environment:
N/A
>Description:
I welcome the effort to renew the Web site. But I regret to report that the resulting web site looks awful!!! Besides, it hasn't bene tested properly -- it fails to display properly on various browsers, ie., Apple's Safari Web Browser and related browsers.
I for one, would like going back to the old web site. But as a minimum, you need to clean up the current web site and ensure it displays properly on all browsers... something the old web sire did properly, by the way!
-- Denis
>How-To-Repeat:
>Fix:
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:42:36 -0400
From: Frank Laszlo <las...@tvog.net>
Subject: Re: Bind within src-contrib
To: Johnson David <davidj...@siemens.com>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <434D4B0C...@tvog.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Johnson David wrote:
>From: Frank Laszlo [mailto:las...@tvog.net]
>
>
>
>>How would you like a system with no host(1), dig(1), or nslookup(1)? I
>>personally consider these tools essential for a freebsd system.
>>
>>
>
>Are these utilities used anywhere else in FreeBSD, such as the startup
>scripts? Are they something required by the vast majority of users? If not,
>I wouldn't consider them "essential".
>
>
Note. I said "personally." I use these tools to debug network
configuration issues which are essential for me to even install ports in
most cases.
__________________________________________________
Frank Laszlo
System Administrator
The VonOstin Group
Email: las...@tvog.net
WWW: http://www.vonostingroup.com
Mobile: 248-863-7584
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:46:07 GMT
From: Remko Lodder <re...@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: www/87336: Problems with Web Site
To: re...@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-...@FreeBSD.org,
freeb...@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <200510121746....@freefall.freebsd.org>
Synopsis: Problems with Web Site
Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-advocacy->freebsd-www
Responsible-Changed-By: remko
Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Oct 12 17:45:10 GMT 2005
Responsible-Changed-Why:
This does not belong in the advocacy category but in the
www category. Move it there.
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87336
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:13:20 +0200
From: d...@des.no ( Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav )
Subject: Re: Bind within src-contrib
To: Joshua Bell <jo...@oplink.net>
Cc: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <86oe5u3...@xps.des.no>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Joshua Bell <jo...@oplink.net> writes:
> I was attempting to build a minimal supfile, when I noticed that
> bind was included within contrib. This to me seems like something
> that should be included within the ports tree, or atleast be
> included in a portion of the tree with less crucial software.
BIND has been a part of BSD since its inception (the B in BIND and BSD
both stand for Berkeley), and parts of it are essential to the system.
DES
--
Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no
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