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Gordon Neal

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Jul 27, 2024, 3:39:26 PM7/27/24
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You can use the soundcard via Engine on the laptop. But runnig from another application on the laptop will need, either an external USB sound card or direct connection from the 3.5mm socket into the Line In.

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I also would like to do this and assumed it was possible until I took possession of a Prime4 and tried it. Virtual DJ can see multiple channels on the Prime4 (when the Prime4 is set to computer mode)and virtual DJ on a PC/Laptop is connected to Prime4, so I assume they are there but not accessible (other than Master and Phones in VDJ).

thanks a lot DataStrain
so in live preference> audio > asio blabla i keep my main sound card and simply use the overbridge as VST (like for exemple the Access Virus system) in a MIDI track in Ableton?
in this config is it still possible to have multiple audio tracks of the elektron routing separatly in the DAW?

Also had a similar issue when using Analog Four mk1 and Overbridge. Using an external soundcard as Ableton main output effectively disabled audio routing through Overbridge. Anyone managed to make this work with A4?

Unlike my Helix (which you can also use as a pc soundcard) the pc sound is running through all of the FX and amp blocks (I'm guessing this is due to the reamping nature of the whole affair). Sure you have to rememebr to switch them off. But it makes adding reverb, pitch and EQ super easy (not as easy with Helix ). I'm currently listening to Youtube in a concert hall.

As far as using Kemper as a sound card I think so far its a big failure. Some things work and others don't work at all like vlc media player and cakewalk (sonar) don't work properly, can't record with cakewalk and Vlc media won't make a sound at all but media player works fine. Probably many more but I'm not wasting any more time on it. I rather play my guitar.

Latency and stability. But Asio4All for windows is not super bad. If you really need the best performance and integration in a more complex studio setup you won't use the Kemper USB audio interface at all and you have a dedicated interface.

The USB audio has been plug and play and rock solid for me on Mac. Actually more solid than my Motu Ultralite Mk5 which drops out periodically. However, I would still not consider the KPA USB audio as a replacement for a proper interface. However, the one thing that has really been great for me is the ability to use it with my iPad at rehearsals (and potentially gigs) for recording, playing backing tracks, adding midi guitar synth tones etc. that could be a total game changer for me.

Upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 with the dist upgrade tool. First there was no grub and repaired that with rescatux. Then there was no soundcard found. I have looked through page after page and tried many of the solutions, about three hours of work when the solution was so simple that I'm surprised it's not the number one search result for this problem. Here it is:

My issue ended up being that secure boot had been enabled. I have a UEFI system with enabled Secure Boot. The EFI_SECURE_BOOT_SIG_ENFORCE kernel config prevents linux from loading unsigned third party modules if UEFI Secure Boot is enabled.

For some reason my Helix volume knob now controls the volume of everything (PC, DAW, Guitar) and so does the Scarlett. This is a pain because when I'm recording into my DAW and I want to up the guitar level with the Helix volume knob it alters the DAW volume too.

This is impossible. Helix Volume Knob is analog attenuator for a chosen Helix outputs. No way it can control anything on any other device than Helix.
Using two interfaces at once can be confusing. Please consider to use one.

If you're using your Helix as an interface for recording (or the Scarlet) your computer is treating that as it's soundcard (as it is right now, anyways) and the output level of the master volume control will raise or lower the level over EVERYTHING playing back through the Helix, including the playback from Reaper. The scarlet would function the same way without changing any settings (and that's how most soundcards work). If you have the analog outputs of the Helix connected to the Scarlet, turning up the guitar master volume will change the level going into Reaper, and may clip your inputs on the Scarlet. All of this is expected behavior. I'm not familiar with the Focusrite Software, but I would assume you can route/setup monitor mixes just like you would with a normal mixer, so you'd have to go into that software, and adjust the Helix levels to whichever output its is connected to. I would agree with Zolko, though. Pick one interface at a time to use, and make sure you have the proper settings in Reaper assigned.

IF your speakers are connected to the Focusrite Outputs 1 and 2, AND Reaper Master is set to Output 1/2, AND you've got the Helix 1/4" outs connected to the Scarlett Inputs 1/2 with Helix Big Knob set to 1/4", connect the XLRs to Input 3 and 4. Set Reaper to RECORD 3 and 4.

With the Helix Track Monitor Switch set to OFF and Record ON, when you press PLAY you can jam along to whatever has been recorded, and hear the Helix direct, no latency. The BIG Knob controls the Helix Output.

To clarify how I use it. Helix LT is on the floor under the desk so for normal computer use it's easier to adjust volumes with the Scarlett which is on a shelf at eye level, I also have my headphones plugged into the Scarlett which has independent volume control for them. I leave them plugged in permanently and just hit the me button when I want to use phones.

I have Helix XLR left and right direct into front of Scarlett 1 & 2 this allows direct monitoring of guitar with zero latency and also just playing guitar if I don't want to boot the PC up. I use stereo effects so like to leave the gain knobs at 12 o clock and adjust using the Helix vol. It's a ball ache having to adjust two knobs which I'm having to do now.

I suspect this is due to your computer choosing to make the Helix it's sound card when the Helix is turned on since it's connected via USB. Obviously the Helix won't have this behavior when it's turned off, so it's likely something in the configuration of your computer's sound devices.

The sound properties of the computer are set to use the Scarlett for input and output. I've had the 1st gen Scarlett for years and all I've done is swap the Scarlett and installed the drivers and new control software.

If you're recording using Helix USB, then the Helix is your sound card. Reaper can only use one sound card at a time, so it's output is going to the Helix. Take the XLR or 1/4" outputs to the Scarlett inputs 1-2. Set the Big Knob to whichever outputs (XLR and/or 1/4") and turn it all the way up. That's Unity.

Well how did this happen????? I've switched on tonight and before I made any changes I set my video camera up to show Zolko60 what was happening. I didn't do it, Helix is now only controlling the guitar output level, just as it was before.

Well, switched on tonight and it's doing it again. Now I need to try and work out rd2rk's settings. I went to YouTube first to do a video for Zolko60 but it wouldn't play, it said "Audio rendering error, please restart computer". I switched Reaper off and it played it fine and Helix didn't control the volume.

When using my DAW, if I just play a track, the halos on Scarlett 1/2 light up so somehow the DAW is getting sent to the Helix and back into the Scarlett. I have my computer soundcard set to Scarlett playback and record.

On another note, with my old 1st Gen Scarlett, I've recorded via Helix usb and a mic plugged into the Scarlett at the same time, if I switch on the Scarlett in Reaper and select inputs I don't get anything like what I got before. I used to get USB1, USB2 etc, now I get fniusbwave_48 1, fniusbwave_48 2, fniusbwave_48 3 etc.

If your XLRs are connected from Helix to Scarlett 1 and 2, attached is a screenshot of what Focusrite Control (the Scarlett mixer) should look like. Obviously, MUTE should be OFF if you want to hear anything.....

The only thing that works is I HAVE to open Reaper with Helix off. I don't even have to press play, just open reaper before switching on Helix.I wonder why I've not had to do this before? It is a workaround but I'd still prefer it how it was. It's a little bit of a ball ache because I can never run Guitar Pro with Reaper open so I'm going to have to keep on switching of Helix, as I said, it's underneath my desk, I just know I'm going to keep banging my head ;o)

I've just tried to record and it gives me problems in that I can't see the Helix in the ASIO panel so I can't record via USB. Not majorbut I do like to record a dry signal too sometimes. I've changed nothing in Helix, no recent updates so I'm wondering if it is more computer issue than Helix.Cheers

I have two computers, I use a powered USB hub to share the Scarlett, Helix, keyboard and mouse. Both running Win10 Pro. The laptop is an Asus and the desktop is a self build. I use the laptop for my music because the desktop affects guitars with interference. I will try the desktop ASAP.

I have my Helix under my desk because I have to make videos for my mentor and the workshops over at www.guitarmasterclass.com I'm not a gigging musician, I sit down to play, I record with my video camera on the desk at hand along with my keyboard etc, it all helps for workflow and re-takes, It's not vital to have the Helix there, but it's out of the way and keeps things tidy.

I've had them both through the hub with no issue for over a year, well the Scarlett is new but it was another Scarlett before. This issue only just started happening. Do you still think it could be the hub? The hub goes to a switch to swap computers that I've also been using for a long time.

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