RE: Trophy's

[penny Metz]

I know there was apparently a deadline for the coaches about the trophy's but is tit typical that the coaches purchase their own trophies? If I am correct there are 13 coaches and 6 were heard from, I'm just wondering if maybe the ones you didn't hear from missed the e-mail or really do plan on purchasing their own? I know it was the coaches responsibility to respond but I would really hate for the kids to have to suffer if in fact the coach dropped the ball. I personally haven't heard from our coach so I have no clue as to his intentions. I do not believe that coaches should be asking parents for money for trophies if the league is willing to provide them. If the coach is paying out of their own pocket that is one thing. If a coach did miss the deadline, is it still possible to order them or are they just out of luck? Again, I am only thinking about the kids, not complaining. I think sometimes in cases like this there should be a follow up call made when there is no response to an e-mail. In the future I would even be willing to make the calls if it means no team is left out. I only mention making calls in cases as important as this, not over every little thing. Maybe I'm way off but I'm just concerned about the kids of the coaches that did not respond.

Penny Metz

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From: Lgd2...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:49:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Trophy's
To: LPB...@googlegroups.com

Jenn,

 

   Sounds good to me.

 

-Lance

 

In a message dated 10/17/2008 11:52:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, lpcheer...@yahoo.com writes:

I put an email out to the cheer/football coaches and I had only one team who responded that they want trophies.  I need 27 football/7 cheer (Koechner/Haas). I did hear from Baker/ Mumford, Strigel, Mathis, Weiss, and VanEtten's teams indicating they would purchase their own.  Everyone else never responded back to and the deadline was this past Wednesday.  We have at least this many trophies at the Press Box so I say we try and use those trophies for this year.  I'm sure the trophy place could take off the date strip and replace it for us.  This was its cheap and we get rid of some of the clutter up in the Press Box.    Jennifer Dockins Cheerleading Director, Little Panthers 618/530-6134 www.littlepanthers.com --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Kelly <faer...@charter.net> wrote: From: Kelly <faer...@charter.net> Subject: Trophy's To: LPB...@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 1:30 PM Since we didn't have a board meeting this week, I was needing to know if the Club will be providing trophy's for all the teams? (Football/Cheer) Trying to put together costs for our end of the year banquet and was needing to figure out if this needed to be added onto it. Thanks- Kelly Kern Volunteer Coordinator, Little Panthers www.littlepanthers.com

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[penny Metz]

Let me clarify: I meant 13 Football coaches, I don't know how many Cheer. Also I'm so sorry about the typo in the first sentence, obviously spell check did not catch it..LOL

Penny Metz

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From: pennyc...@hotmail.com
To: lpb...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Trophy's
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:16:59 -0500

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[Kurt Striegel]

Penny,

 

You bring up a good point about how teams shouldn’t buy trophies if the club is willing to provide them.  Since many coaches and team managers prefer a different a different type of trophy another idea is to provide each team with funds equivalent to the cost of those trophies so that they can purchase trophies to their liking.

 

Kurt  

 

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From: LPB...@googlegroups.com [mailto:LPB...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of penny Metz
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 12:17 AM
To: lpb...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Trophy's

 

I know there was apparently a deadline for the coaches about the trophy's but is tit typical that the coaches purchase their own trophies? If I am correct there are 13 coaches and 6 were heard from, I'm just wondering if maybe the ones you didn't hear from missed the e-mail or really do plan on purchasing their own? I know it was the coaches responsibility to respond but I would really hate for the kids to have to suffer if in fact the coach dropped the ball. I personally haven't heard from our coach so I have no clue as to his intentions. I do not believe that coaches should be asking parents for money for trophies if the league is willing to provide them. If the coach is paying out of their own pocket that is one thing. If a coach did miss the deadline, is it still possible to order them or are they just out of luck? Again, I am only thinking about the kids, not complaining. I think sometimes in cases like this there should be a follow up call made when there is no response to an e-mail. In the future I would even be willing to make the calls if it means no team is left out. I only mention making calls in cases as important as this, not over every little thing. Maybe I'm way off but I'm just concerned about the kids of the coaches that did not respond.

Penny Metz

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[Rob]

If coaches choose to buy a trophy OTHER than that which the club provides then it should be the responsibility of the coaches and parents to provide the funds for them. We as a club offer a troophy "free" to each team and if they choose not to utilize this then it becomes their problem not ours.

[Kurt Striegel]

That is how it is done right now but Penny is of the opinion that coaches shouldn’t be asking parents for money to buy a trophy if they don’t like the trophies that the club provides.  Providing a cash equivalent to those trophies for each team is a compromise. 

 

This is something we can add to the agenda for a future board meeting but not the one Wednesday night since Todd wants that meeting to focus on wrestling and elections.    

 

Kurt

 

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[Kelly]

I think the point is that the club should not provide any cash equivalent for trophy's when we are willingto provide an acceptible trophy for them. If they choose to upgrade then that is for them to decide upon. 

[Jennifer Dockins]

Kelly/Rob, I completely agree.  Actually Kurt your team manager was the only one who brought up the idea of us paying for part of your trophy.  As I responded to Carol, its our trophy or nothing.    As far as the deadline for additional teams to order trophies, it is possibly too late.  Penny, if you have time to contact Trophy Case in Belleville and the coaches that would be great.  Unfortunately, dealing with pictures, etc. I was unable to do any more than sending out an email.  Speaking of Trophy Case, I or someone needs to get the trophies we have at the Press Box up to them tomorrow so they can remove last year's plaque and replace with this year.

Jennifer Dockins Cheerleading Director, Little Panthers 618/530-6134 www.littlepanthers.com

Kurt

Penny,

Kurt

I know there was apparently a deadline for the coaches about the trophy's but is tit typical that the coaches purchase their own trophies? If I am correct there are 13 coaches and 6 were heard from, I'm just wondering if maybe the ones you didn't hear from missed the e-mail or really do plan on purchasing their own? I know it was the coaches responsibility to respond but I would really hate for the kids to have to suffer if in fact the coach dropped the ball.. I personally haven't heard from our coach so I have no clue as to his intentions. I do not believe that coaches should be asking parents for money for trophies if the league is willing to provide them. If the coach is paying out of their own pocket that is one thing. If a coach did miss the deadline, is it still possible to order them or are they just out of luck? Again, I am only thinking about the kids, not complaining. I think sometimes in cases like this there should be a follow up call made when there is no response to an e-mail. In the future I would even be willing to make the calls if it means no team is left out. I only mention making calls in cases as important as this, not over every little thing. Maybe I'm way off but I'm just concerned about the kids of the coaches that did not respond. Penny Metz

From: Lgd2...@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:49:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Trophy's To: LPB...@googlegroups.com Jenn,      Sounds good to me.   -Lance   In a message dated 10/17/2008 11:52:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, lpcheer...@yahoo.com writes:

I put an email out to the cheer/football coaches and I had only one team who responded that they want trophies.  I need 27 football/7 cheer (Koechner/Haas). I did hear from Baker/ Mumford, Strigel, Mathis, Weiss, and VanEtten's teams indicating they would purchase their own.  Everyone else never responded back to and the deadline was this past Wednesday.  We have at least this many trophies at the Press Box so I say we try and use those trophies for this year.  I'm sure the trophy place could take off the date strip and replace it for us.  This was its cheap and we get rid of some of the clutter up in the Press Box..

Jennifer Dockins Cheerleading Director, Little Panthers 618/530-6134 www.littlepanthers.com --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Kelly <faer...@charter.net> wrote: From: Kelly <faer...@charter.net> Subject: Trophy's To: LPB...@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 1:30 PM Since we didn't have a board meeting this week, I was needing to know if the Club will be providing trophy's for all the teams? (Football/Cheer) Trying to put together costs for our end of the year banquet and was needing to figure out if this needed to be added onto it. Thanks- Kelly Kern Volunteer Coordinator, Little Panthers www.littlepanthers.com

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[penny Metz]

Jen-
 
I wasn't aware that you were handling the trophy situation (remember, I am new) until I saw the e-mail after the fact and the deadline had passed. Had I known, I would have offered to help you because I know you have a lot on your plate. I was merely making a suggestion for the future.  I just don't want kids disappointed all because their coach did not respond. I was not blaming you or implying that you were personally responsible if a team didn't get trophies. I do however believe that if the coaches were allotted a certain dollar amount and purchased their own trophies that would eliminate one of the Boards responsibilities and time would not be an issue. I'm sure there are drawbacks to that as well but no situation is perfect, I am just here to try and help. I'm sure things have been tried in the past and maybe didn't work out but I wouldn't know that. If anyone needs help with anything that I may be able to handle, Please let me know.

Penny Metz

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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:13:32 -0700
From: lpcheer...@yahoo.com

[sheri king]

PENNY,

 

         Now that you mention it, I have a spot on my back I can not reach, would you scratch it?

 

 

ERIK

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From: penny Metz <pennyc...@hotmail.com>
To: lpb...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:55:54 PM
Subject: RE: Trophy's

[Kurt Striegel]

It doesn’t really matter to me.  However, what is the difference between spending a few bucks on a trophy that the club buys or giving the team moms/managers the cash equivalent of those trophies to purchase trophies on their own?  It has the same effect on our bank account.    

 

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[Kurt Striegel]

I can’t remember why Carol didn’t like the club trophies.  I think she said they were too small or very basic looking.  You may not be aware of this but Carol is also the team manager for Mathis’s team which means she was probably going to try to get the club to give her the cash equivalent of the trophies for both teams.  I’ll bet she is sourcing better trophies for Mathis too.  I don’t know why the club trophy would meet her standards for Mathis’s team but not our team.  If she is using the club trophies for Mathis’s team let me know.         

 

Anyway, I was only making a suggestion for the future but it doesn’t really matter to me.  I delegate that stuff to the team manager so I can focus on coaching.  I am curious as to why you think there is a difference between the club buying trophies and the club giving a team manager the funds to buy the trophies.  Unless you simply want every team to have the same trophy, it is a zero sum game financially speaking.   Who cares?   There is value in being flexible.

 

Kurt  

 

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