Distribution Panel for Small(ish) installation

[Stephen Evans]

Hi Everyone.

I'm currently installing a Loxone system in my home and I am struggling to find a distribution panel that is suitable.  I know Loxone recommend the Future Automation one here: http://www.futureautomation.co.uk/Enclosure/Loxone-Lighting-Enclosure  but I'm not sure I need something that big.  Also how are these boards effected by the new 17th Edition Amendment 3 regulation requirements here in the UK?

Any recommendations as you what anyone else is using to house their Loxone Kit would be welcomed.

Many thanks

Stephen

[Stephen Evans]

As an update for everyone that read this.  Future Automation have come back to me and informed me all orders for their Loxone enclosures are now Amendment 3 compliant with the addition of a metal front door. Must say their replied promptly and provided all the additional information and specs without having to even ask.  

Stephen

[Simon Still]

On Monday, 11 January 2016 11:33:03 UTC, Stephen Evans wrote:

 I'm not sure I need something that big.  Also how are these boards effected by the new 17th Edition Amendment 3 regulation requirements here in the UK?

Future Automation do a number of sizes.  My system is 1 miniserver, 3 extensions and a few small units. I've got the largest 5 rail cabinet and laid it out as per Loxone's advice and I've used most of it.  I probably could have managed with 1 row fewer but the extra space makes layout easier and it the spaced from having a smaller cabinet wouldn't have been any benefit to me. 

I'm not sure how a full metal door would work - will be interesting to see.  Not least both the Loxone units and Power Supplys appear to rely on pasive cooling via the bits that stick out of the cabinet. 

I have a completely separate 17th Amendment Consumer Unit as Loxone is only linked to a small number of lower powered circuits - the two lighting circuits and a 'services' circuit.  The Loxone power supplys will be run from an external UPS so ultimately there will be a fuse in a plug.    

The Consumer Unit is a 15 way with 12 ways used  and it's pretty crowded in there.  The Future Automation cabinet would have struggled to accommodate everything.

[Stephen Evans]

Thanks Simon, That's really useful advice.  

 

I am restricted on space (under stairs) so your picture really helps show how quickly space gets used up but im limited to a four row unit but will also run the ring mains and kitchen from a separate consumer unit..  Did you by the terminal blocks from Loxone as well?  they seem pretty expensive so I've been hunting around for alternatives, 

Many thanks 

Stephen 

[Simon Still]

On Tuesday, 12 January 2016 12:29:22 UTC, Stephen Evans wrote:

Did you by the terminal blocks from Loxone as well?  they seem pretty expensive so I've been hunting around for alternatives, 

I've started drafting a 'lessons learned' from my install which I'll post at some point when I'm all done.

The Wiedmuller 8x2 terminal blocks are expensive but excellent - I'd thought I'd have quite a few left but actually I'm running out of space.   I could have done with a small number of the power distribution (interconnected) blocks but made do with a lot of small patch cables in the 8x2 blocks (might not show up on that pic) and some smaller Wago terminal blocks.   No-where else seemed to sell the Weidmuller cheaper than Loxone themselves and I couldn't find anything approaching that density.  

 

[yesimag]

Any suggestions for UL listed enclosures for us folks in the USA?

[Rob_in]

Just stumbled across this... how are you getting on with your lessons document? Sounds like something worth posting in the Wiki:

http://www.loxwiki.eu/display/LOXEN/Loxone+Community+Wiki

BTW, regarding terminal blocks I just posted in response to a similar query here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/loxone-english/NeVrIa6nA-0/saLEZJh6CQAJ