How to hear my doorbell?

[Kelly]

Hi

I am in the middle of a house build with almost everything integrated with Loxone but we did not opt for the AudioServer. We will instead have a Sonos system for audio. Is there a way to integrate Sonos with Loxone such that when our doorbell rings, we can hear this on our Sonos system?

thanks

Kelly

[Rob]

What type of doorbell do you have?

Is it just a wired push button, Loxone intercom or some other video type doorbell?

The general problem is that you have to tell Sonos to play a doorbell sound, which isn't something it is designed to do. It is designed to play a sound source.

I do recall seeing some information (possibly on here but can't find it now) which allows Loxone to trigger a doorbell sound via Sonos.

Cheers

Rob

[Scott F]

In theory you can create a virtual output that sends an http command to the Sonos the same way that the Sonos Addon from Loxone works. If you look on the Sonos developer website then there is a section in the control API for audioClip which would do what you wanted, providing you have a doorbell input to Loxone. This functionality however is experimental as noted by Sonos and is only available on specific devices. 

[Colin]

Simple to use a Loxone relay where a pushbutton would be to switch a bell / ding dong / whatever.   And/or flash a light .... or whatever.    Much simpler than doing this via Sonos.  Probably more reliable too.

[van.in.gaia]

Hi all.

In this regards and from a newbie perspective, would it be possible to tell Siri to say something when someone pushes the bell?

Thanks & Regards.

Van Fanel

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[Scott F]

I am not sure the communication works both ways with the apple HomeKit, as far as I know you cannot send an http command that direction from a non apple device but I am not overly familiar with the HomeKit integration, I know it would require a hard wired Apple device on the network if that was the case. 

The easiest way to do this like Colin mentioned is to have a relay to a door chime or alternately Loxone has an already inbuilt function to switch the lights when a doorbell input is received.  

[g...@camleyphotographic.com]

Ideally your doorbell is not dependent on the internet/wireless. You either have a direct network connection, with no external dependency, or use a direct wired connection to a AI/DI.

 

I have a Doorbird device. This connects via the network via direct API to the Loxone miniserver. Loxone flashes the  lights. My phone has a notification via a DoorBird app. We do not have a ‘bell’.

 

Latency should also be a concern. There is a noticeable delay of a few (3?) seconds between the lights starting to flash and my phone pinging.

 

I like the idea of a generic doorbell operated by a relay. This will not have any dependency, plus be cost effective.

 

Good luck.

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[Ewan Tait]

On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 9:08:02 AM UTC+1 g...@camleyphotographic.com wrote:

Ideally your doorbell is not dependent on the internet/wireless. You either have a direct network connection, with no external dependency, or use a direct wired connection to a AI/DI.

I have a Doorbird device. This connects via the network via direct API to the Loxone miniserver. Loxone flashes the  lights. My phone has a notification via a DoorBird app. We do not have a ‘bell’.

Latency should also be a concern. There is a noticeable delay of a few (3?) seconds between the lights starting to flash and my phone pinging.

I like the idea of a generic doorbell operated by a relay. This will not have any dependency, plus be cost effective.

We've gone with traditional doorbells routed through Loxone. We've got bell pushes at the front and back doors (publicly accessible lane), with two ringers in the hall and utility room. Because we route it through Loxone, we also get notifications on our phone when the bells ring, and the back door uses a pulse so that we always get a double ring when someone is at the back door and it's easier to identify which doorbell rang.

The only thing we found that we had to do with the door controller is put in a short switch-off delay between the DI and the controller. Some people like to ring the bell twice in quick succession and the double notifications were annoying!

Cheers,

Ewan

[Simon Still]

We've got a Loxone intercom with a traditional doorbell.  I don't know if you can use the lox intercom block without an actual intercom but that gives a notification on our phones (but since it's via internet and Apple there is usually a delay of a few seconds and sometimes much longer).

We have a 'loud doorbell' option (activated either by an interface switch with auto turn off at the end of working day, or when the workshop light is switched on) that rings the fire alarm once.  Our smoke detectors are a 12v panel system that has a 'class bell' input that triggers the alarms for use in a school or workplace.  that works really well. 

a few hardwired bells is always going to be the simplest and most reliable solution I think. 

[Simon Still]

And I meant to add - all can be done low voltage so should be easy to pick up some spare cores in CAT cables  in a few places for the ringers. 

[kelly....@gmail.com]

Hi – this is the one: https://shop.loxone.com/enen/intercom-white.html

 

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