Loxone / Matter / Alexa - Finally?

[Aaron]

I'm yet to try this but thought many would be keen to read (if not already):

https://www.loxone.com/enen/blog/experimental-integration-of-matter/

While not ready and stable, direction at least looks promising

[Russ]

Hm. I just ordered the 1Home server supposed to merge Loxone with Matter.  Won't arrive until next year.  Hope I did the right thing. 

[van.in.gaia]

Hmmm. Also here.

Van Fanel

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[Jonathan Dixon]

I'm not an expert, but from what I've read the Loxone native implementation is focused on Device role only for now, so depending on your goal the 1home may still be necessary. In Matter, Devices are controlled by Controllers. So Loxone is focusing on letting Alexa, Siri et al control Loxone house. Whereas if 1home supports controller profile it will enable the Loxone ecosystem to control other Matter devices such as bulbs/shading/etc. Also, I'm pretty sure Loxone MS does not have Thread radio built in, whereas the 1Home server presumably does? (It's not clear on their website, that I could easily see). - FWIW iPhone 15 Pro has Thread radio built in so presumably this will become more common now in the usual cupertino-chasing way of things.

Home Assistant is currently focused on adding the Controller profile, so when I feel up to is I'll look at having Home Assistant controlling Loxone, as an alternative for the add-on Loxone integration. Using beta software against other beta software sounds like a recipe for hair-pulling, but at least Home Assistant is open source and a bit easier to debug through.

Whatever, Matter is going to be in beta testing for years, so anything you buy now is likely to be used for experimental and eval purposes for most of its lifetime anyway. (my reference point here is Bluetooth was in interop testing for over 10 years before it really started to get traction in the market, and even now 25 years after it was launched compatibility still sucks. And Matter is arguably solving a more complex problem,  in a more complex way).

Another thing I found interesting in the Home Assistant notes is they recommend keeping using native (non-Matter) integrations where they exist indefinitely, as they're richer and support features that can't be controlled via Matter e.g. Hue lights.

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[Techdoctor]

Over the years there have been all sorts of attempts to have the one standard in home automation. There was a cartoon in Computer Shopper I think that said we have 12 different and competing systems. We will integrate them into one system. We now have 13 different and competing systems

[van.in.gaia]

Hi Russ:

Asked yesterday 1Home for a refund and got it immediately. I do not want to have (expensive) redundant hardware to manage Matter.

Regards, 

Van Fanel

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[Peter]

As I'm not a Home Automation professional (by any stretch of the imagination) I had never even heard of Matter until 1Home advertised their Server. Must admit I was tempted by their offering until I did a little research and discovered I don't have any Matter enabled devices anyway (except possibly a LG TV) and probably unlikely to go down that route having seen what's available.

I was somewhat relieved I didn't spontaneously go ahead and buy when just a few days later Loxone announced their Config Beta version.

I can't imagine 1Home were too pleased, great customer support to offer a refund, but then if they're not in stock, did they have a choice?

[Russ gmail]

One of the things I'm interested in that is mentioned as present in the 1Home server is voice control.  I don't see that in the Loxone offering nor on their roadmap.

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[Ewan Tait]

My wife and I control our Loxone smart home with voice control. Loxone offers Apple HomeKit support, so all I need is my iPhone and Siri.

Matter support seems to allow you to add your Loxone system to Alexa or Google's smart home platforms, so it should therefore give you voice control of Loxone through those ecosystems. I've not tried it to confirm though.

Cheers,

Ewan