Roller Blind motor / tube options

[Rob.no1]

Can I ask what motor and tube options people are using to make automated internal roller blinds and where you buy them from?

I have previously used the Voluto motor (and 45mm tube) from Decorquip, which was great as it had dry contacts to drive the motor up and down, but this has now been discontinued along with their 4 wire mechanico basic motors. (I think these were rebranded Dooya motors DM35s)

The only options they have now are radio frequency which I cant reliably integrate with loxone. They do have something called homebridge which has an RS485 interface, but I dont like the idea of communicating from loxone via RS485 to the bridge and then radio/wifi to the various blinds (also not sure on the distance the signal can travel).

I dont like the loxone options mainly due to price (they are expensive) and they are large and need a 63mm tube. 

in the UK there don't seem to be many options available for smaller sized blind motors, at reasonable prices.

Thanks

Rob

[peter taylor]

I've just bought one from controliss that arrived 10 mins ago. haven't installed it yet but looks good. It uses a somfy motor ("screen up" i think is the name of the motor) 4 wire, 240v  that i plan to control with relays.

Pete 

[Steven Van Gysel]

I've done all my internal blinds with a chinese version Dooya DM35

The shop on aliexpress where I bought my motor is not available anymore.

I used a 63mm tube as it is for relatively large windows.

It has a mechanical limiter and they work perfectly. 

Steven

Op do 4 mrt. 2021 om 15:51 schreef Rob.no1 <robco...@hotmail.com>:

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[Rob.no1]

Thanks for the responses.... Just as an update, I have spoken to Decorquip and they have sourced some other motors and adaptors (simple 4 wire 230v Motors ) that will fit in their 45mm roller blind tubes. So they can now supply either complete blinds or components if anyone needs. I have always found them very helpful and cost competitive. 

More info here if anyone needs it:

https://www.decorquip.com/

Regards

Rob

[SteveJ]

Just started thinking about roller blinds (as ever way too late in my build journey, so options are now limited).

Does anyone have any thoughts about how effective/troublesome/otherwise  schemes using a mains or 24v motor, controlled via relays and loxone's automatic blind block to provide timing based up/down control are, compared to more elaborate ( and I think expensive) options using some sort of digital control of the motors - like somfy-RTS or SMI?   Does using timing to define the end stops for top and bottom work OK, or does the top/bottom position drift over time ?

Steve

[g...@camleyphotographic.com]

What a brilliant question.

 

I look forward to a reply.

 

I am about to spec windows that have 24v motors for controlling directly within Loxone. I discounted local 240v supply, blind based controllers and the manufactures solar/wireless system. I currently had Zigbee based blinds which are far too troublesome, I am after an ‘install and forget’ solution.

 

Best wishes, George

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[James Brown]

I've been using QMotion blinds (zigbee-based) with Loxone for a few years. Originally using the Qube gateway, but this was a real problem with lots of reliability/connectivity issues. I bypassed qmotion's latest gateway (££££) and instead I now use zigbee2mqtt on Loxberry (with the zigbee controller tied to channel 20 to avoid wifi inteference) and it's been pretty much flawless ever since

[Duncan]

the simple blinds (240v or DC) with end stops (mechanical or electric) work well with loxone blinds block

very occasionally they go adrift, but a 'fully open' or 'fully closed' command gets them synced up again nicely - for example ive got 3 blinds next to each other than have run up and down in sync for around 5 years now with the odd full up/down cycle after a miniserver restart of power glitch

the only issue with the loxone blinds block is the 'auto' bit of the automatic blinds block which has thousands of work-around solutions for not being very smart at all

[Rob_in]

On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 15:51:53 UTC+1 Rob.no1 wrote:

Can I ask what motor and tube options people are using to make automated internal roller blinds and where you buy them from?

On all our external shutters (we are in France where this is the norm) we have Somfy 240v 4-wire motors (ie. ground, neutral, 1 positive to drive up, 1 positive to drive down). They are wired back to our cabinet and controlled with relays.

They came from the window supplier but the model for the windows, for example is Somfy ILMO 50 WT. These are widely available.

Robin

[Paul Admiraal]

Got this one a while back from aliexpress 

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