3rd Party Weather Station

[Deac99]

Has anyone integrated a 3rd party weather station with Loxone?  (wind speed, direction,  outside temp, RH, rain fall, etc.)  I'm interested in anyone's opinions. 

[Jonathan Dixon]

I'm using a Weather flow Tempest

https://weatherflow.com/tempest-weather-system/

The loxberry integration for it takes a little effort to setup, but it really good and hasn't failed me once. Really nice to have the forecast data from it too; the DNS hack to make that work gave me the heebie-jeebies at first but appears robust!

The main issues I've had is with the device itself: it's solar powered and struggles in the UK winter, and has not one but 2 wireless links (proprietary to base station then WiFi) hence all the flakiness that implies. Just this morning the base station fell off the WiFi for no apparent reason, fixed with a power cycle.

The use cases for it in loxone are easy enough to live without if it does go down, but I've not found an elegant way to carve out a bunch of logic blocks and effectively disconnect their outputs if they go offline (I've used the watchdog to fill in default values, but sometimes it's hard to chose a universally good default)

Starting over I'd probably suck it up and pay for the loxone weather station, it just seemed unreasonably expensive when I started out and unnecessary locked in.

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Has anyone integrated a 3rd party weather station with Loxone?  (wind speed, direction,  outside temp, RH, rain fall, etc.)  I'm interested in anyone's opinions. 

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[Cameron Jones]

Hi Deac99,

 

I have both the Tempest and the Loxone weather station which I bought recently when they had a sale, I think it was half price and you get a 10 year weather data included.

 

The Loxone WS is not great in my experience. I positioned it initially on the sound side of a shed which was in the sun from about 10am. Temp and LUX goes off the charts when in directly sunlight. So I moved it to the south side of the shed quite well protected by tress mostly in the shade. Then other measures are not as accurate ie wind speed, Sunshine and LUX (which is really all I use it for to activate lights)

 

I have not tried to integrate my Tempest yet because I’m not technical enough but I might start my research and try.

 

I had some issues with charging last winter but mine is mounted quite high so it does seem to charge up enough. Shame they don’t provide an option to plug the tempest in also. I find the rain a little inaccurate as mine often records wind as rain. I don’t think mine really drops from the network though?

 

Here is my Tempest https://tempestwx.com/station/33601/grid

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[Jonathan Dixon]

Agree the lack of external power option is a silly oversight - especially as it has pogo pin pads on it already. Typical for something designed in California to think solar is available year round!

Think mine has only fallen off the WiFi 2 or 3 times in a year, but no less annoying when it does. It could be a specific compatibility issue with my WiFi ap (Unifi) but the fact rebooting the tempest base station is needed to fix it suggests the fault is that side. (and certainly they could and should work around it by automatically rebooting/force reconnecting if WiFi drops out for several minutes.)

Fwiw the rain sensor on mine seems under sensitive if anything (typically the roof window built in rain sensor trips before the tempest does to close them). It's just an haptic sensor so always going to struggle with very fine mist.  I wonder if the mast yours is on moves or causes other vibrations to the unit in high wind? That would likely trigger the rain sensor.

It's quietly reassuring to know the grass isn't all green on the loxone side either :-)

[Simon Still]

The Tempest looks interesting - seems an oversight to have put the solar power panel on the side though.  Surely it would have more reliably powered it if on the top?

[Simon Still]

On Thursday, 15 July 2021 at 09:19:34 UTC+1 camb...@gmail.com wrote:

the Loxone weather station which I bought recently when they had a sale,

I missed this and don't remember ever seeing a Loxone sale before - if it happens again could someone post a notice on here? 

[Techdoctor]

to camb...@gmail.com

Interesting posts.

 I wanted to see how close Openweathermap.org is to your Tempest.

So Openweather data first then Tempest second

temp 22.01    20.8

humidity 66%   68%

Pressure 1023hPa   1020.6hPa

Wind speed 4.63m/s   1.9m/s (converted from 4.3 MPH) Tempest 

gusting  no data for weathermap    4.0m/s

Wind Direction 10º or N    on the Tempest its Just N

The city ID  for Openweathermap is  2644663 Which is about 1.2km away from the Tempest weather station.

I would say over all not bad . The open weather map data is updated every 10 minutes.   Where as the tempest data is realtime.

[Deac99]

Thanks and Interesting on the Tempest - it looks like a nice device.  That is a shame they don't have an option to provide external power.  I noticed on the website is is only available in the USA.  Do any of you have any insight for Europe? 

[Cameron Jones]

I purchased mine as part of one of those crowd funding things. Apparently they will be ready to sell in Europe this summer. You can sign up to be notified. It’s not perfect but I’d recommend them still. As someone else said it doesn’t detect some of the light rain we have here in the U.K.  

Cameron Jones

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