Autocad Error Code 41000
Oliver Parkes
I tried yesterday to union the objects but I too received an error code (twice). Can you provide a sample drawing comprised only of faces...just a small portion of the overall objects would be sufficient.
Sure, here is original sample. It was made as solid in first place then converted to mesh and then exploded to create 3D Face. Next thing I lost original file with 3D Solids and this 3D face is useles for me as Civil user.
Obviously you consider these three separate entities judging by your use of different colors. Why then didn't you place them on separate layers? It would make isolating one structure from the group much easier.
Nope, these colours were just visual aid, after i made solid I colour it as i see fit and i do union command if needed, it is pretty complex shape to look in one colour. This represent one part of underground mine, if i remember well its called stope in english, and solids are perfect to design and modify +bonus you can doo massprop command to find out mass of excavated earth.
Each part of the mine should have been on a separate layer so they could be easily isolated. I gather too that there are "shared" faces meaning that in order not to leave any holes where each part of the mine intersects with another part shared faces would have to be duplicated if one were to attempt to create a solid from the 3D faces.
I've always used AutoCAD out the box to model some pretty sophisticated as well as simple items. I've worked AutoCAD since 1989. I've never ever received so many modeling errors. below are just a few I captured and copied to a log, just today. I"ve provided the error and the command it failed in and the text therein.
Are you using 3D solid models created in prior versions in AutoCAD 2018? If so, my guess is that the updated ASM modeler that we introduced in AutoCAD 2018 is catching additional data errors that were previously overlooked (but will bite you later). Error messages are displayed for errors that the newest ASM can't fix.
anyway, I attempted to put a 1/2x45deg chamfer on the bottom outboard side of the part. first off, I drew half, did my extrusions and subtractions then mirrored it. then unioned it. cleaned it. checked it for "This object is a valid ShapeManager solid.".
1. if the mtext text box is used to change the text justification, the next time the drawing is opened, the text no longer has the justification chosen in the mtext editor. it doesn't stick. I have to change mtext justification in the Properties. always. Now given that the justification in the properties has 9 options and the mtext editor only 3 plus the spread, maybe I;'m missing something here.
Yes, I see the issue. When it tries to chamfer edges that run out to adjacent edges that have already been chamfered, the modeling engine gives up. When I do a Ctrl+Erase on the previously chamfered edges, I can chamfer a 2D loop as shown.
I just had the same error (the first in his list) doing a chamfer on a hardware block for a door hinge. Professionals pretty much all have large block libraries. Does Autodesk expect us to redraw them all in Autocad 2018? I'm sorry, but if it works in 2016 I expect it to not error out in 2018. Saying the new version found an error all previous versions missed is simply making excuses for incomplete development.
As a professional with a library of over a thousand 3D blocks all drawn in Autocad from 2006 up I consider these errors in 2018 are due to the failure of Autodesk's programming. Especially since they were drawn CORRECTLY in YOUR SOFTWARE! Autodesk should be giving us a date for the service pack that will error-trap what you inaccurately call "mistakes" in our Valid ShapeManager Solids. Pointing fingers at the customers shelling out thousands of dollars for your software is not a very intelligent response.
The issue was more likely due to a defect in the previous version of the ASM modeler. Upgrading to a newer version of ASM might have impacted models created with the earlier version. This possibility was enough of a concern when we made the update that we had customers test for issues during a Beta program before it was released.
If there's any way that you can post or email me (die...@companyname.com) a few sample models that exhibit this problem, I'd be happy to involve our engineering team to see whether the update was the case or whether the behavior is due to a different problem. Please note that Autodesk will be closed until January 2.
No offense taken Dieter. This isn't personal. It's business. Most of the blocks I'm using were made by others, many straight from vendors. I'm adding machine code to models based on the insertion points of 3D Solid models for various parts and hardware. I take existing solids and edit them to update or create new models. It's essential that the applied machining is confirmed by the solid model when the engineers import this hardware. I mainly get these errors trying to simply move, edit or delete faces. It makes a simple task a pain in the ass.
You don't need any help from me. Autodesk has more than enough resources, if it has the will, to simply do what I'm doing. Work through a large library of Valid ShapeManager Solids gathered over the last eight years or so and start editing them. You'll find some will generate those inscrutible errors. Find a solution to prevent them so your customers can work more efficiently.
As I said, Autodesk subjected the ASM upgrade to a Beta testing process. The only modeling errors we found came from a Beta customer who received solid models (actually, it turned out that they were 3D faces) from a source generated by a non-Autodesk application. I don't know whether this is the case in your situation and we've no way of verifying the issue without a sample block or two that fails. If there's an issue with AutoCAD, we'd like to fix it. If the issue is with a third party or some other reason, we won't be able to do so.
please advise status to this issue as I too have similar issues... we completed multiple projects for a specific customer using R2013 and they just came back to us wanting a 100% duplicate on a super rush project... We are now using R2018 in which every project file is now corrupt when opened and deletes 95% of the CAD model. This is supposed to be a file-save-as exercise with a find/replace text and build to print... as it stands now... this AutoCad/Autodesk deficiency will now cause us hundreds of hours of rework we did not budget nor have time for and will cause a schedule delay on a critical path project which happens to be a vaccine for this covid pandemic that we are all working through... what the heck happened between R2013 vs 2018 that says all previous project solids are junk?
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